Movie Review - TF5 The Last Knight

[GoktimusPrime]

By Megatron not doing anything, I meant he did nothing in this film, not the previous ones. I'm aware he did many things in those movies, but this one I feel like he didn't really do anything.

By this logic then Darth Vader didn't do anything bad and didn't deserve to have anything bad happen to him in Return of the Jedi.

I'm happy to accept that this is a big dumb movie aimed at kids

Only with so much swearing that you can't bring your kids to watch it.

The characters were a developmental graveyard, robot and human.

"Developmental graveyard" ←love this expression. So damn true too.

Scale was an issue too. Where do we go from here? An alien planet has rammed into Earth and wiped our moon out.

I thought that the moon was merely scraped, not obliterated. #tisbutascratch
The Earth would be seriously messed up if the moon were to be destroyed. Of course, the Earth should've been messed up due to Cybertron being within such close proximity! But we already saw this happen before in Dark of the Moon without anything happening to the Earth. Even the G1 cartoon tried to address this issue in "The Ultimate Doom" - and that's a cartoon aimed purely at kids! It's almost as if Cybertron is devoid of mass.

[FatalityPitt]

By this logic then Darth Vader didn't do anything bad and didn't deserve to have anything bad happen to him in Return of the Jedi.

I think what he was suggesting was that Megatron's role in this film was minor. The real villain in the film was Quintessa, and it felt like Megatron was only there because Michael Bay was obligated to have him show up - So Hasbro can sell Megatron toys!! They could have left Megatron out of the film entirely, and say he spent the whole event in a basement trolling on 4chan (and probably cyber-stalking Sam Witwicky), and it wouldn't have made much difference to the plot.

Having read a lot of Marvel/DC comics in my life, I've noticed that at least 1 of 3 things eventually happen to the villains:
1) They die.
2) They get reformed and turn into an anti-hero.
3) They get reduced down to being a comedy-relief character and training dummy for the main hero.

I think movie Megatron is headed towards the 3rd direction.

[shockNwave]

I went into this movie expecting a lack of depth and whiz-bang special FX and that's exactly what I got. I have to admit the FX are the most epic out of all the movies excluding the morphing which is not cool but a damn sight better than little cubes and marbles transforming into all sorts of objects.

To finish off, I'd like to say I read a review of TLK in the Herald Sun (which was scathing of course) that said this is Michael Bay's last Transformers movie. Let's hope that's truth and not rumour because if a character like Thunderwing* is to be introduced then a director with the intelligence of Chris Nolan will be needed.

*Thunderwing is possibly the most psychologically complex character among transformers due to being a contradictory and paradoxical decepticon with an obsessive compulsive disorder.

[DaptoDog]

Watched it this avo with my wife. Had to endure her whinging all the way home about how it was the worst of the five. So for non-TF fans I think they are over it, as evidenced by the relatively poor box office figures so far in the US.

As for me, I'd rank it well behind TF1 and DOTM (which I consider tied for best in the series) but ahead of AOE and ROTF (which I still consider to be the worst).

Loved Cogman. Loved the Steve Buscemi, Stanley Tucci and John Turturro cameos. Was surprised about how big a role Anthony Hopkins had and thought he was enjoyable. Laura Haddock was a much stronger actor than the two previous female leads (and hotter).

I'm not familiar with the TFPrime ending so I was excited to see Unicron introduced.

However, while I don't go in expecting a great story, this one was very convoluted and there were one too many plot devices.

The ending was quite weak. Quintessa is a god and yet was taken out so easily by Bumblebee. Though I did like the credits scene.

There were too many Transformers in this film. Crosshairs was great in AOE but had basically no action scenes. Drift was an afterthought. And that Suicide Squad set up was stupid. Infernicus was easily dispatched, Combiners should be super hard to defeat.

I agree with Gok about the bad language (which keeps getting worse). For a franchise that is all about selling toys to kids, you would think they would make these movies more kid friendly. I would love to be able to see this with my 8 year old (though I see this doesn't stop some other parents).

In the end, this film lacked the moments that TF1 and DOTM had. I've read a number of people's reviews where the movie holds up much better on a second viewing. Will most likely wait for the Blu-ray.

[reillyd]

I mainly have more questions than comments.

But the gravity/Cybertron thing. Given that we have frequently seen mass-density shifting and size shifting it didn't bother me so much, plus it looked to be largely hollow anyway. I thought it was just a broken shard of Cybertron (because, DoTM space bridge) and not the planet proper.


Questions which I am hoping someone smarter can answer

Q1: Does the spark reside in the head, and so can Starscream be revived.
Q2: How on earth did Starscream die in the first place (Lockdown?)
Q3: What happened to all the sparks Lockdown harvested. I had hoped to see them get revived, if Megatron can come back for the umpteenth time.
Q4: Did anyone else think Quintessa looks adorable (in her shimmering metal mode) and have unnatural thoughts? #justaskingforafriend

[SharkyMcShark]

I mainly have more questions than comments.

But the gravity/Cybertron thing. Given that we have frequently seen mass-density shifting and size shifting it didn't bother me so much, plus it looked to be largely hollow anyway. I thought it was just a broken shard of Cybertron (because, DoTM space bridge) and not the planet proper.


Questions which I am hoping someone smarter can answer

Q1: Does the spark reside in the head, and so can Starscream be revived.
Q2: How on earth did Starscream die in the first place (Lockdown?)
Q3: What happened to all the sparks Lockdown harvested. I had hoped to see them get revived, if Megatron can come back for the umpteenth time.
Q4: Did anyone else think Quintessa looks adorable (in her shimmering metal mode) and have unnatural thoughts? #justaskingforafriend

For 1 and 2, the spark of Ratchet and Optimus were both shown in their chest, as well as various transformers in the films leaking bright blue stuff and dying from chest shots, so probably the chest.

Starscream died in DOTM after having a bomb go off in his head that blew up his head and upper torso.

[GoktimusPrime]

Although Mega-Galvatron was revived just from his head. Ah, let's face it, there's just no coherent logic between these movies.

[GoktimusPrime]

I think what he was suggesting was that Megatron's role in this film was minor.

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- Decepticons: What did they ever do to be treated the way there were? They posed no imminent threat to the humans and the Autobots, but became simple pawns to Quintessa's plans. Even Megatron did nothing.

The real villain in the film was Quintessa, and it felt like Megatron was only there because Michael Bay was obligated to have him show up - So Hasbro can sell Megatron toys!!

Megatron hasn't been the main villain since the first movie, and even then just in the last act when he finally thawed out.
ROTF main villain: The Fallen. Megatron was his lackey.
DOTM main villain: Sentinel Prime. Megatron was his lackey (then he betrayed Sentinel when he realised this)
AoE main villain: Lockdown, emissary of Quintessa.
TLK main villain: Quintessa

['07Camaro]

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I want to make a massive apology to you. What Fatality said was what I actually meant. It was stupid of me to include that question, but the point was that taking Megatron out of the movie wouldn't make any changes to the film's plot. I edited my comment with the pros and cons as well because I had a different thought after watching the movie a second time. Again, I apologise for the confusion I've caused.

I thought Drift was driving the Autobot ship... thats why he wasnt in the final scene

Oh yeah, I didn't even think about that. It makes sense now