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Thread: Toy Review - Studio Series DLX Jazz

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    I get the complaints about the size, but as Gok pointed out, the engineering complexity and part count justify the deluxe class price point.

    I still have my Human Alliance Jazz and think it's a very good figure, but this one looks kind of tempting as something that will take up less space on a shelf. Then again, I'm hoping Jazz gets the Movie Masterpiece treatment, so it's not just about the size...

    Sorry Gok, but this picture you linked to has no Solstices in it - the white cars and silver car are all Mazda MX-5s, while the red car is an Abarth 124, which is based on the MX-5. To be fair, the Solstice is a comparable size to the MX-5, so for anyone having trouble visualising the size of a Solstice, just think of an MX-5. The point is that it's smaller than a Camaro, so it shouldn't be a surprise that Jazz is shorter than Bumblebee.


    Quote Originally Posted by Autocon View Post
    Was going to say that looks like a very demented evil BB then i saw the dcon logo. When did BB go evil?
    That's Cyberfire Bumblebee from DotM, dubbed 'Murderbee' by some thanks to his orange-red eyes. It looks like tinyJazz just put a Decepticon sticker on him.

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    My complaint is the size (surprise ), it's almost the size of the Scout. While the transformation is Deluxe level and the car is painted silver, I still feel it is not worth the price of a Deluxe. I don't really care about scale... I just feel that Hasbro shrunk it too far this time...

    I compare him to wave-mate Lockdown and it feels depressing. My favourite is still Human Alliance Jazz
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    Remember that "Deluxe" isn't a size class, it's a price point. We've had Deluxes close to the size of Voyagers before (e.g. Animated Lockdown) and Voyagers the size of Deluxes (e.g. Animated Lugnut) etc. People view them as size classes because usually toys within these price points adhere to a common size - especially during Beast Wars which originated these fixed classes - but it's never been a hard and fast rule. Yes, Jazz is the size of a Legends figure, but he is not at the same level of design or engineering as a Legends toy. There is an above-average level of complexity for a Deluxe toy. Contrast this with the Cyberverse Warriors which are closer to the size of a Warrior/Deluxe toy but waaaaaaay below that level of design and engineering.

    IMO SS Jazz better justifies its Deluxe price point than any Cyberverse Warrior.

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    I got one yesterday. I was surprised how much I like this figure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime View Post
    Remember that "Deluxe" isn't a size class, it's a price point. We've had Deluxes close to the size of Voyagers before (e.g. Animated Lockdown) and Voyagers the size of Deluxes (e.g. Animated Lugnut) etc. People view them as size classes because usually toys within these price points adhere to a common size - especially during Beast Wars which originated these fixed classes - but it's never been a hard and fast rule. Yes, Jazz is the size of a Legends figure, but he is not at the same level of design or engineering as a Legends toy. There is an above-average level of complexity for a Deluxe toy. Contrast this with the Cyberverse Warriors which are closer to the size of a Warrior/Deluxe toy but waaaaaaay below that level of design and engineering.

    IMO SS Jazz better justifies its Deluxe price point than any Cyberverse Warrior.
    It's not just the size but the feel of it in my hands. Animated Lockdown is as tall as a typical Voyager but is much lighter and Animated Lugnut is as short as a Deluxe but he is a lot heftier in hand.

    For me, SS Jazz feels so tiny in my hands that it's harder for me to justify the $29 I paid into him. Yes, I understand all the R&D that goes into the price (the transformation scheme is as good as the other SS toys) but when the Deluxes in the same line has equally good designs and is bigger, I just can't help but feel Jazz was short-changed. However, that being said, once I got him into vehicle mode, he is much more compact with no gaps.
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    They could have got around the size issue by including a cool bonus, like one of the Arcee bikes, or a cool small transformable Frenzy figure...missed opportunity me thinks

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    I think Jazz's size falls victim to the cost spread that the designers are trying out with this line - ie: some toys within your Deluxe Price Point are more expensive to produce than your typical deluxe, whereas some are less and the balance is spread across the line to come out even.

    The other example of this is the Wave 1 Optimus & Starscream - Optimus being a smaller Voyager and Starscream being a slightly larger mould.

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    I'm not a fan of the movie designs generally but this guy is just adorable. Very happy with the purchase.

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    Totally happy with having just the human alliance Jazz. There plenty of other studio series figures coming out that I'd rather get

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    It's a fun, cute, well painted figure.

    I enjoy the cues that it takes from the Human Alliance mold.

    The size doesn't bother me. Robot mode scale is a selling point in this line.
    I'm really just here for the free food and open bar.

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