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    MECHABOT-1 / OMEGA SUPREME / GADEP
    Series - Super Change Robo / Transformers
    Sub-line - Convertors (Omegatron) / Transformers (G1) / Transformers (e-Hobby)
    Size/class - N/A
    New/remould/redeco - new / repaint of Mechabot-1 / repaint of Encore Omega Supreme
    Wave - N/A
    Released here - ?? / yes / no
    Year of Release - 1984 / 1985 / 2008
    Approximate Retail Price - $140~180
    Approximate Size - 27.5cm
    Allegiance - N/A / Autobot / Autobot
    Alt-mode - rocket base
    Main Features/Gimmicks - electronic ambulatory and tank gimmicks (follow link to watch video)
    Main Colours - black, red, white / grey, yellow, red, beige / blue, white
    Main Accessories - track components, clips

    Special thanks to Tha_Phantom for providing his Omegatron and Encore Omega Supreme

    L-R: Omegatron, Encore Omega Supreme and GADEP in robot mode


    Rocket base mode


    Tank queue very much








    Original G1 Omega Supreme and GADEP




    Retrospectively the most notable thing is that the electronic gimmick is prone to failure, especially on the rotating tank turret. As you can see in the video, the tank turret on Tha Phantom's Encore Omega Supreme was the most prone to jamming. My GADEP's turret has a few momentary jams but surprisingly Omegatron's gimmick still works flawlessly. My G1 Omega Supreme's gimmick has been restored (thanks, kup!). The colours on Encore Omega Supreme are lighter than the original G1 and kinda makes it look cheap and "knock-offish." The tampographed logo is cool. I'm personally not a fan of the added internal faceplate. I don't mind it on GADEP as it makes it look different, and also because he's not Omega Supreme. But I prefer my Omega Supreme to be like the G1 toy and just have nothing inside that window. Just the cold, black void of Omega Supreme's empty soul. Until you switch on the gimmick and see it light up like an Xmas bulb. I guess there's nothing really wrong with the face... I just have G1 bias.

    Omega Supreme is the original partsformer. And this is definitely a toy that you either want to get complete or not at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime View Post
    surprisingly Omegatron's gimmick still works flawlessly.
    It wasn't working when I got it. Had to take it apart, but thankfully the issue was simply that the motor had siezed up. All I had to do was spin it by hand a bit and it was working fine after that.

    Glad that this thread exists. I shall post a retrospective review of the G1 deco Universe Spychangers when I get the last couple I need.
    Looking to buy lucky draw Armada Prime and Diaclone Marlboor Wheeljack.

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    OVERDRIVE / WINDCHARGER
    Series - Binaltech / Alternators
    Size/class - 1:24 scale
    New/remould/redeco - new / retool of BT Overdrive in plastic
    Wave - 11 / 8
    Released here - No / Yes
    Year of Release - 2005 / 2005
    Approximate Retail Price - 5000JPY / $45
    Approximate Size - 18cm (robot H), 17cm (car L)
    Allegiance - Cybertron / Autobot
    Alt-mode - Honda S2000
    Main Features/Gimmicks - high detailed vehicle mode, front wheel steering
    Main Colours - red & black
    Main Accessories - engine-rifle, roof-shield / engine-shield, roof-shield

    Special thanks to 1AZRAEL1 for allowing me to compare his Alternators Windcharger with my Binaltech Overdrive

    One physical difference between BT Overdrive and ALT Windcharger is obviously that Overdrive has die-cast metal panels whereas Windcharger is entirely plastic; save for the tyres which are rubber on both toys. Both toys are coloured in the same shade of red, although for some reason, Overdrive's red looks a bit pinkish on some of my photos of the car mode. But you can see that it's the same red in the side-by-side robot mode shot; and in hand they are the same red. So with that in mind, let us proceed...

    Car mode

    IMO the biggest advantage of die-cast metal is definitely the look of the car mode. Windcharger does a pretty good job in making its plastic look as close as possible to the metal version; a much better job than the super-obvious plastic looking Alternators Smokescreen (blech), but Windcharger's red plastic is a pretty close approximation. But ultimately, it doesn't beat the look of actual metal with that gorgeous reflective sheen like a proper model car. Windcharger also has clearer plastic on the headlights and tail light coverings than Overdrive.

    Under the bonnet

    You can see how the light goes right through Windcharger's plastic bonnet, whereas Overdrive's solid metal bonnet is completely opaque. Otherwise, both toys have identical looking engines.

    Inside the car

    Pretty much the same thing, although Windcharger's innards are mirror flipped from Overdrive's. Overdrive's controls are configured for driving on the left side of the road, whereas Windcharger is configured for driving on the right. Unfortunately, Windcharger's steering wheel is made of really soft rubber instead of solid plastic like Overdrive's; and as such, seems to be prone to deformity. This Alternators Windcharger was opened from being MISB for the purposes of this comparison, and the steering wheel was warped straight out of packaging; whereas my BT Overdrive was opened back in 2005 and has been transformed and played with scores of times, and yet the steering wheel is unwarped. The steering wheel on my BT Prowl is warped too, but it's not on my BT Blue Prowl or Alternators Prowl; and all of those Prowl's steering wheels have the same rubbery steering wheels; so luck seems to also play a factor. But obviously solid plastic isn't going to deform like rubber.

    Vehicle rears


    Both toys have different number plates. Overdrive's reading "OVRDRV" and Windcharger's reading "WNDCGR." You can see more clearly in this photo the difference in transparency on the tail light covers.

    Vehicles with doors and panels open


    Undersides

    Unfortunately, Hasbro removed the drive shaft on Windcharger. This is due to Honda USA objecting to one of their vehicles having a gun; although they would change their minds about this two years later, as Alternators Rumble comes with two guns (which funnily enough, was never released in BT).

    Car mode with roof up


    IMO the sculpting details look sharper on Overdrive; especially the door handles.

    Robot mode

    Yay, the pinkishness from Overdrive is gone; this is actually how Overdrive looks like IRL. Both toys look super similar, but you will notice the metallic sheen on Overdrive vs the plastic sheen on Windcharger.

    Head on!

    This toy is obviously meant to be Overdrive; and you can see that Overdrive's visor has the same iconic downward pointed tip as G1 Overdrive. Hasbro renamed this toy "Windcharger" as they had lost the rights to the Overdrive trademark (although given that we've had no new Overdrive toys since BT, odds are that the name may still be lost?). Hasbro has given Windcharger a new visor to make it look less like Overdrive, although it doesn't look like Windcharger either.

    Comparison with G1

    As mentioned before, Windcharger's engine accessory lacks the drive shaft which forms the rifle barrel on Overdrive's weapon. Hasbro has officially designated Windcharger's engine accessory as a "shield," meaning that he actually has two shields and no guns. Thanks, Honda USA.

    Copyright stamps

    There's no difference.

    OVERALL THOUGHTS

    I generally prefer Binaltechs over Alternators, and Overdrive is no exception. For the same price, I might as well get the die-cast metal version with the rifle barrel over a plastic version with no guns. Having said that, the lack of gun barrel isn't Hasbro's fault, and Hasbro have really done a top job in making the plastic look as metallic as possible. Both feel like premium toys; it's just that the Alternators would've been nicer if they were cheaper. And Alternators did become cheaper at the tail end with figures like Alternators Rodimus and Optimus Prime selling for $25 at Kmart. But Windcharger was one of the earlier waves of Alternators that sold for about the same price as Overdrive. As far as aftermarket prices go, Alternators haven't appreciated much; you can get one MISB for $50 these days. Whereas a cursory look for BT Overdrive on evil-Bay shows that they're going for silly prices there; so I would say that currently Windcharger offers far superior value over a Binaltech Overprice.

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    The Alternators/Binaltech really were amazing.

    I got exhausted by the reuse of moulds and strict adherence to licensed cars.. however that's kinda what the line was all about.

    Good review mate.

    Now time for a modern Overdrive (or all Omnibots please).

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    G1 TRAINBOTS

    I'm not bothered to write a retro review for the G1 Trainbots. See dirge's site for his reviews on each individual figure.

    Here are some photos of the G1 Trainbots on N gauge (9mm) model railway tracks.





    The G1 Trainbots also come with special coupling joints that allow them to connect. I don't any of the couplings, and my Trainbots are actually Diaclone Train Robos. The actual G1 Trainbot (w/ rubsign) and coupling piece shown here are courtesy of tha_phantom.

    Also notice that Tokai 153 Express Train Robo has an orange trigger button on the roof which is absent on Suiken. The trigger launches the front section of the train (where the Diaclone pilot sits). This launch mechanism was removed on the Transformer toy, and similar with other G1 Trainbots. The long peg that connects that front section into the launcher is also greatly shortened on the Transformers toys.

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