Toy Review - Siege Apeface

[GoktimusPrime]

That clag white.... I will never complain about Hasbro Grey again

You win this thread, sir.

[DarkHyren]

CONS
- That cheap looking off-white. Why not grey?

The plastic choice seems down to necessity, TFWiki says "Apeface's white plastic is actually super-dense nylon, which is necessary to prevent the tabs from breaking".
As I understand it using this material means it's harder/costs more to paint, I don't really know, but it does make him look a little like something from Shapeways rather than Hasbro.
I found this thread over on TFW, he looks much better spending the extra money on a coat of paint, so it might be worth the cost/effort to do so.
Also found this PSA over on reddit, the wing accessory is made of translucent plastic and the connection points are too small/wing pegs too large, so be careful as others have had the pegs break off in the ports.

[SharkyMcShark]

Is there any prospect of this releasing here at retail?

[Tilarta]

According to a video review, the primary flaw with Apeface is his upper chest section doesn't dock particularly well when he transforms into either ape mode or jet mode. The review showed the clip holding up his ape head disengaging several times.

These are my personal concerns:

1. No nosecone compartment for Spasma to pilot the jet. Instead, he's inside a rear compartment hidden under a spoiler wing. Seriously, what is the point of making that compartment with a transparent plastic cover if the spoiler wing completely covers it???
2. I don't like the ape mask, would have preferred it to be disengaged so he's truly headless.
3. As already mentioned, the battle damage is silly. Like the former example, I'll probably paint those panels black just to remove the paint effect.

Overall, I'm not terribly interested in this figure, I'm just buying him as a precaution, in case they release Snapdragon later, to make the pair of BeastTripleChangerHeadmasters.
I know from bitter experience if I change my mind later, the scalpers will ask an exhorbitant amount for a 25$ toy, so it's better to buy them at sale price even if I'm uncertain and avoid not being able to get the toy long after the release wave is discontinued.

[SharkyMcShark]

1. No nosecone compartment for Spasma to pilot the jet. Instead, he's inside a rear compartment hidden under a spoiler wing. Seriously, what is the point of making that compartment with a transparent plastic cover if the spoiler wing completely covers it???

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Overall, I'm not terribly interested in this figure, I'm just buying him as a precaution, in case they release Snapdragon later, to make the pair of BeastTripleChangerHeadmasters.

I've seen people use the beast head mask thing as a seat, and you can fit a fully curled up Titanmaster in under the canopy. It looks sort of goofy but you get that 'head visible through the cockpit' action like on TR Megatron.

Also I believe SnapDragon was a part of the Walmart leaked listings over the weekend.

[GoktimusPrime]

According to a video review, the primary flaw with Apeface is his upper chest section doesn't dock particularly well when he transforms into either ape mode or jet mode. The review showed the clip holding up his ape head disengaging several times.

Mine works fine in ape mode, although it was a bit tricky to work out at first. The jet mode I find is harder to dock in, and even when I did it it just looks stupid. Gah.

These are my personal concerns:

1. No nosecone compartment for Spasma to pilot the jet. Instead, he's inside a rear compartment hidden under a spoiler wing. Seriously, what is the point of making that compartment with a transparent plastic cover if the spoiler wing completely covers it???

That's actually a really good point and it was something that bugged me about the toy when I first handled it but I forgot to mention it in my review (oops). I think that the cockpit should be in the actual front section of the jet, even if it means Spasma docking in in head mode into the ape-mask. Having it up the back is silly, but you're right, having the stupid shield cover up the window is even stupider. Although even without the shield Spasma can't see anything other than directly up. It's just a daft idea. At least TR Astrotrain/Sentinel Prime have their cockpit in an elevated position with a clear front view for the pilot.

2. I don't like the ape mask, would have preferred it to be disengaged so he's truly headless.

I agree, but it's a necessity to make Spasma easier to fit into the ill-placed cockpit. But yeah, you could just include the ape head entirely into Spasma, that way you don't need to accommodate space to fit the mask in jet mode and just have a proper cockpit up the front of the plane! Two birds with one stone!

Overall, I'm not terribly interested in this figure, I'm just buying him as a precaution, in case they release Snapdragon later, to make the pair of BeastTripleChangerHeadmasters.

Headmaster Horrorcons they're called. And as SharkyMcShark has said, Snap Dragon has been revealed in a leaked listing (although with the name separated into two words now, I guess for trad

I know from bitter experience if I change my mind later, the scalpers will ask an exhorbitant amount for a 25$ toy, so it's better to buy them at sale price even if I'm uncertain and avoid not being able to get the toy long after the release wave is discontinued.

This is a Voyager Class figure so you're not going to find it for $25! (can't even find a Deluxe for that price these days)
I think I paid about $75 for mine including shipping.

[Tilarta]

I didn't mean a Voyager class figure, I was referring to Combiner Wars Rook and Blades. Couldn't find a Blades for sale, but found a few Rooks, listed at a minimum of 200$, one was $400.
Saw a Rook for sale at 25$, but took long deciding to buy him and by the time I did make the decision, he was long gone from the shelves in the toy store.
Tried for a Transformers Prime Bulkhead before them, was equally unsucessful at finding a reasonable price.

Sometimes I wish there was a market specifically for Transformer enthusiasts, not scalper greed monkeys. One where the prices of discontinued products was set fairly, simply because it's a for a fan, not an investor.

[Paulbot]

Sometimes I wish there was a market specifically for Transformer enthusiasts, not scalper greed monkeys. One where the prices of discontinued products was set fairly, simply because it's a for a fan, not an investor.

Fortunately you’ll find people in this community selling older toys at good and fair prices (see Robzy’s current sale for example). EBay prices on many older figures are completely ridiculous. In some cases older toys will be more expensive and worth more than the RRP but Rook is never going to be worth $400!