How much of G1 would you like to see done as CHUG toys?

[GoktimusPrime]

Note: Just for the purposes of this discussion, we're going to use the "Age of Distinction" model of dividing G1.

Here is a list of Hasbro G1 toys. I will be checking off the ones that have already been made as CHUG toys in blue. Toys that exist in CHUG but as a convention or figure subscription service exclusive are marked in red.
Please let me know if I've missed any.

Early G1 (1984-87)
(Golden Age; 1984-85)
Optimus Prime
Bluestreak
Jazz
Hound
Ironhide
Mirage
Prowl
Ratchet
Sideswipe
Sunstreaker
Trailbreaker
Wheeljack
Brawn
Bumblebee
"Bumblejumper"/"Bumper"
Cliffjumper
Gears
Huffer
Windcharger
Megatron
Soundwave
Buzzsaw
Laserbeak
Frenzy
Ravage
Rumble
Skywarp
Starscream
Thundercracker
Jetfire
Omega Supreme
Blaster
Grapple
Hoist
Inferno
Red Alert
Skids
Smokescreen
Tracks
Perceptor
Beachcomber
Cosmos
Powerglide
Seaspray
Warpath
Roadbuster
Whirl
Grimlock
Slag
Sludge
Snarl
Swoop
Topspin
Twin Twist
Camshaft
Downshift
Overdrive
Powerdasher (Aragon)
Powerdasher (Cromar)
Powerdasher (Zetar)
Shockwave
Dirge
Ramjet
Thrust
Astrotrain
Blitzwing
Bombshell
Kickback
Shrapnel
Barrage
Chop Shop
Ransack
Venom
Bonecrusher
Long Haul
Hook
Mixmaster
Scavenger
Scrapper
Mini Spy (Buggy)
Mini Spy (Porsche)
Mini Spy (Jeep)
Mini Spy (Toyota)

(Silver Age; 1986-87)
Rodimus Prime
Ultra Magnus
Wreck Gar
Blurr
Hot Rod
Kup
Broadside
Sandstorm
Springer
Metroplex
Sky Lynx
Hubcap
Outback
Pipes
Swerve
Tailgate
Wheelie
Eject
Ramhorn
Rewind
Steeljaw
Air Raid
Fireflight
Silverbolt
Skydive
Slingshot
Blades
First Aid
Groove
Hot Spot
Streetwise
Galvatron
Cyclonus
Scourge
Octane
Gnaw
Trypticon
Runabout
Runamuck
Breakdown
Dead End
Drag Strip
Motormaster
Wildrider
Blast-Off
Brawl
Onslaught
Swindle
Vortex
Divebomb
Headstrong
Rampage
Razorclaw
Tantrum
Ratbat
Spectro
Spyglass
Viewfinder
Fortress Maximus
Brainstorm
Chromedome
Hardhead
Highbrow
Blurr (Targetmaster)
Hot Rod (Targetmaster)
Kup (Targetmaster)
Crosshairs
Pointblank
Sureshot
Cloudraker
Fastlane
Punch/Counterpunch
Doublecross
Grotusque
Repugnus
Afterburner
Lightspeed
Nosecone
Scattershot
Strafe
Chase
Freeway
Goldbug
Rollbar
Searchlight
Wideload
Scorponok
Apeface
Mindwipe
Skullcruncher
Snapdragon
Weirdwolf
Cyclonus (Targetmaster)
Scourge (Targetmaster)
Misfire
Slugslinger
Triggerhappy
Sixshot
Overkill
Slugfest
Pounce
Wingspan
Battletrap
Flywheels
Hun-Grrr
Blot
Cutthroat
Rippersnapper
Sinnertwin

Middle G1 (1989-90) Bronze Age
Optimus Prime (Powermaster)
Getaway
Joyride
Slapdash
Hosehead
Nightbeat
Siren
Landfill
Quickmix
Scoop
Catilla
Chainclaw
Cloudburst
Groundbreaker
Gunrunner
Landmine
Sky High (Pretender)
Splashdown
Waverider
Quickswitch
Backstreet
Dogfight
Override
Fizzle
Sizzle
Guzzle
Grand Slam
Raindance
Beastbox
Squawktalk
Darkwing
Dreadwind
Doubledealer
Fangry
Horri-Bull
Squeezeplay
Needlenose
Quake
Spinister
Bomb-Burst
Bugly
Carnivac
Finback
Iguanus
Roadgrabber
Skullgrin
Snarler
Submarauder
Crankcase
Ruckus
Windsweeper
Cindersaur
Flamefeather
Sparkstalker
Snaptrap
Tentakil
Nautilator
Seawing
Skalor
Overbite
Bumblebee (Pretender)
Grimlock (Pretender)
Jazz (Pretender)
Doubleheader
Longtooth
Pincher
Crossblades
Vroom
Skyhammer
Big Shot
Flak
Sidetrack
Sunrunner
High Jump
Mudslinger
Powertrain
Tote
Freewheeler
Roadhandler
Swindler
Tailspin
Fixit
Red Hot
Seawatch
Stakeout
Erector
Overload
Hot House
Ironworks
Countdown
Groundshaker
Thunderwing
Starscream (Pretender)
Bludgeon
Octopunch
Stranglehold
Birdbrain
Bristleback
Icepick
Scowl
Slog
Wildfly
Roadblock
Nightflight
Storm Cloud
Tailwind
Whisper
Blackjack
Detour
Hyperdrive
Roadhugger
Flattop
Roughstuff
Airwave
Greasepit
Skyhopper
Skystalker
Optimus Prime (Action Master)
Blaster (Action Master)
Bumblebee (Action Master)
Grimlock (Action Master)
Inferno (Action Master)
Jackpot
Jazz (Action Master)
Kick-Off
Mainframe
Over-Run
Prowl (Action Master)
Rad
Rollout
Skyfall
Snarl (Action Master)
Sprocket
Wheeljack (Action Master)
Gusher
Pipeline
Retro
Surge
Crumble
Groundpounder
Neutro
Takedown
Blaze Master
Eagle Eye
Sky High (Micromaster)
Tread Bolt
Big Daddy
Greaser
Hubs
Trip-Up
Big Hauler
Heavy Tread
Hydraulic
Slow Poke
Oiler
Power Run
Roadburner
Slide
Strikedown
Wheel Blaze
Barrage (Micromaster)
Blastmaster
Heave
Missilemaster
Moonrock
Phaser
Full-Barrel
Overflow
Axer
Banzai-Tron
Devastator (Action Master)
Gutcruncher
Krok
Megatron (Action Master)
Shockwave (Action Master)
Soundwave (Action Master)
Starscream (Action Master)
Treadshot
Bombshock
Dropshot
Growl
Tracer
Barricade
Ground Hog
Motorhead
Roller Force
Blackout
Spaceshot
Meltdown
Half-Track
Direct-Hit
Powerpunch
Fireshot
Vanquish
Excavator
Grit
Hammer
Knockout
Sledge
Stonecruncher
Cement-Head
Terror-Tread

Late G1 (1991-93) Dark Age
Powerflash
Sideswipe (Action Master)
Tracks (Action Master)
Circuit
Rumbler
Omega Spreem
Windmill
Gripper
Flame
Lightspeed (Motorvator)
Bombshell
Charger
Double Punch
Slicer
Take-Off
Thundercracker (Action Master)
Turbo Master
Overlord
Boss
Flash
Hurricane
Rotorstorm
Scorch
Thunder Clash
Rescue Force (jet)
Rescue Force 1 (claw tank)
Rescue Force 2 (dune buggy)
Rescue Force 3 (drill tank)
Falcon
Skydive (Predator)
Skyquake
Snare
Stalker
Talon
"Big Horn" (a.k.a. "Bonecrusher")
"Hooks" (a.k.a. "Hook")
"Heavy Lode" (a.k.a. "Long Haul")
"Eviscerater" (a.k.a. "Mixmaster")
"Desmond" (a.k.a. "Scavenger")
"Ventus Lamina" (a.k.a. "Scrapper")
Pyro/Spark
Deftwing
Ironfist
Aquafend
Deluge
Jetstorm
Speedstream
Rapido
Skram
Turbofire
Windbreaker
Colossus/Clench
Calcar
Fearswoop
Hawk/Eagle Eye
Snipe/Afterburner
Terradive
Tornado/Windrazor
Aquablast
Drench
Hydradread
Rage

[Paulbot]

You're missing quite a few Convention/Subscription toys (including Action Master Thundercracker!) and some of the Titan/Prime masters

This list is useful though for a counter arguement I want to make so hopefully others can help advise and make this complete

[Paulbot]

Nobody? Ok well

Add to the CHUG list

Hubcap (leaked)
Scorponok (coming soon)
Needlenose (Subscription service)
Ruckus (Subscription service)
Windsweeper (Subscription service)
Octopunch (Primemaster)
Banzai-Tron (BotCon)
Thundercracker Action Master (BotCon)
Scorch (Botcon)
Double Punch (Botcon)
Rapido (Botcon)
Skyquake (BotCon)

You could possibily add these but some might think the are not "CHUG enough", others would be using these toys in their collection
Steeljaw (War for Cybertron)
Hosehead (Cab, headonly, Titanmaster)
Dogfight (Adventure exclusive)
Crankcase (Movie Cybertron toy redo)
Octopunch (BotCon SG)
Banzai-Tron (2010 Movie/Generations line)
Ironfist (Subscription service "Fisitron")
Circuit (Subscription service)

[DELTAprime]

Someone, please quote this so Gok can see it.

As long as we are compiling a list here are the JP G1 characters that I have on my list that are unique moulds or repaints not available in the US and EU lines.

-JP Headmasters 1987-

-Cybertron Master Warriors-
Kirk
Lione
Loafer
Rodney
Shuffler
Toraizer

-Trainbots-
Getsuei
Kaen
Seizan
Shouki
Suiken
Yukikaze

-W Cassettebots-
Dile
Graphy
Noise
Saur

-Targetmasters-
Artfire (w/ Nightstick)
Stepper (w/ Nebulon)

-Communications Officers-
Soundblaster (w/ Buzzsaw)
Twincast (w/ Steeljaw)

-JP Masterforce 1988-

-Masterforce Warriors-
Aquastar
Bullet
Zetca

-Sparkdash-
Guzzle
Hardspark
Hotspark
Javil
Wildspark

-Destrons-
Browning

-Pretenders-
Metalhawk

-Six Changer-
Sixknight

-Godmasters-
Buster
Doubleclouder
Hydra
Ranger
Road King

-Armored Warrior-
Godbomber

-Godmaster Leaders-
Overlord (w/ Mega & Giga)
Super Ginrai

-Headmaster Juniors-
Goshooter
Minerva

-Headmasters-
Grand Maximus
BlackZarak
BlackRoritchi

-JP Victory 1989-

-Dinoforce-
Doryu
Gairyu
Goryu
Kakuryu
Rairyu
Yokuryu

-Multiforce-
Dashtacker
Machtackle
Wingwaver

-Breastforce-
Drillhorn (w/ Hornbreast)
Guyhawk (w/ Hawkbreast)
Hellbat (w/ K?moribreast)
Jallguar (w/ Jaguarbreast)
Killbison (w/ Bisonbreast)
Leozack (w/ Lionbreast)

-Brainmasters-
Blacker
Braver
Laster

-Armored Warrior-
Victory Leo

-Six Changer-
Greatshot

-Interstellar Transport-
Galaxy Shuttle

-Leaders-
Deszaras
Star Saber

-Crossformers-
Black Shadow
Blue Bacchus

-JP Zone 1990-

-Zone OVA pack-in-
Rabbicrater

-Metrosquad Leader-
Metrotitan (w/ Metrobomb,
Metrodash, Metroshot, Metrotank)

-Micro Transformers-
Battle Patrol Team
(Gunlift, Powerbomb)
(Sunrunner, Sidetrack
Super Car Patrol Team
(Black Heat, Ginham, Deadhour, Road Hugger)

-Bases (Micro Transformers)-
Gunrunner
Deadwheeler

-Micro Transformers Powered Masters-
Sonic Bomber
(w/ Sonic)
Dai Atlas
(w/ Speeder)
Roadfire
(w/ Drillbuster)

-Stations (Micro Transformers)-
Glasspit
Overair

Deluxe (Micro Transformers)
Missile Bull
Skywave

-JP Return of Convoy 1991-

-Cybertrons-
Grandus (w/ Spinner)
Sky Garry (w/ Shotbomber & Micro Trailer #0)
Star Convoy
(w/ Hot Rodimus & Micro Trailer)

-Micro Transformer 6 Team-
Sixliner
(Alan, D-Go, Joe, Leaf, Night, Spark)

-JP Operation Combination 1992-

-5-Robot Gestalts-
Battle Gaia
(Great Cannon, Leyland, Sandstorm, Shuttle Gunner, Target Hawk)
Guard City
(Fire Chief, Fly-Up, Safety, Sparkride, Streetstar)

-Micro Transformer 6-Robot Gestalts-
Sixbuilder
(Crush-Bull, Digger, Gran Arm, Iron Lift, Mixing, Treader)
Sixtrain
(Atlan, Converter, Desire, Raise, San D-Go, Windy)
Sixturbo
Road Police
(Circuit, Discharge, Glide, Neo-Wheel, Sireen)
Sixwing
(Chain Gun, Falcon, Flanker, Missile Run, Raker, Supersonic)

[Paulbot]

And from that list, many have CHUG toys including:

Shuffler
Shouki
Artfire (w/ Nightstick)
Stepper (w/ Nebulon)
Soundblaster (w/ Buzzsaw)
Metalhawk (primemaster)
Godbomber
Overlord (w/ Mega & Giga)
Super Ginrai
Minerva (titanmaster)
Grand Maximus
Kakuryu (United EX)
Drillhorn
Guyhawk
Hellbat
Jallguar
Killbison
Leozack
Deszaras
Black Shadow
Star Convoy
Road Police

[GoktimusPrime]

I embrace a lot of the older characters getting new figures, because a lot of the (now really old!) CHUG figures are starting to lose their lustre. Hell, some of those toys were themselves repaints and simple retools. Though getting to every nook and cranny of G1 is super cool and inevitable, I think having more definitive versions of existing characters (and just having more options really) is just as important, especially as the fandom expands. After all, if we’d stopped when a character first got represented, we’d be still stuck with the Springer repaint of Cybertron Evac, or Classics Voyager Megatron!

I definitely understand the desire to see "proper" CHUG toys done of previous toys that were repaints of moulds that just didn't work (e.g. Earthrise Cliffjumper etc.) - and there are still a number of toys that have technically been CHUGgified but could really do with better representations (i.e. not ill-fitting reuses of previous moulds) - e.g. Huffer & Pipes.

I don't object to Hasbro revisiting already CHUGgified toys - I did recently buy ER Sky Lynx and sold off my CW Sky Lynx; but on the other hand I held onto my Henkei Ironhide and Lambor and skipped their CW & Siege counterparts. <shrugs> I also skipped ER Wheeljack as I'm perfectly content with my United Wheeljack, even if he is a shared mould with Tracks (and I'm not saying that this always has to be a thing).

I guess I would prefer if HasTak prioritised characters who've yet to be CHUGgified first and then come back and revisit the already CHUGgified characters at a later point. Yeah, I really do want a better CHUG Huffer and Pipes, but I'd like to see a CHUG Hubcap, Sureshot, Pointblank etc. done first. Having said that, I wouldn't say no to a better CHUG Huffer or Pipes if they released them sooner either. For me, if they release a new CHUG toy of a character that's already CHUGged then it's a "maybe" for me, but if it's a new incarnation of a character that's never been CHUGged before, then it's a definite purchase. With rare exceptions like Grand Maximus because I just don't have the damn space for that thing!

[Tha_Phantom]

I guess I would prefer if HasTak prioritised characters who've yet to be CHUGgified first and then come back and revisit the already CHUGgified characters at a later point.

If I had a dollar for every time I read this. It's not just you Gok, I've seen a few people repeat this sentiment.
The thing is, we will eventually get all those obscure characters I'm sure, but Hasbro also need to keep doing the ones that will be guaranteed to sell (your Primes, your Megatrons, your Starscreams, etc). We've been very fortunate to get things like CHUG combiners, clones, Allicons, Impactor, Powerdashers, Etc.
You yourself aren't a fan of the previous CHUG Cliffjumper as it's just a red Bumblebee, but technically it's a CHUG Cliffjumper, right? Likewise, I'm not all too impressed with some earlier CHUG figures such as Sunstreaker (either version of him) and am much looking forward to Earthrise. The other thing to keep in mind is people are coming and going from the fandom every year and may not have gotten previous versions of these characters. So there are many good reasons to keep giving us options of the more popular characters while also giving us more obscure characters.

[Paulbot]

The other thing to keep in mind is people are coming and going from the fandom every year and may not have gotten previous versions of these characters.

Good point. There are 13 year old Transformers fans today buying Earthrise Cliffjumper and Astrotrain who were not born when the first CHUG versions of those characters were on the shelf.

[GoktimusPrime]

Actually, upon closer analysis they are doing a near half half split nowadays between "old" and "new" CHUG characters. Although there is a 'size bias' with the smaller/cheaper end having many more "new" CHUG characters vs toys on the dearer/bigger end of the scale. We have lots of CHUG Micromasters now but seeing whole new big boxed toys come out in CHUG is not so common. And yes, I will grant that some of these boxed CHUGs are updates of previous CHUGs that bring something completely new to the table (e.g. ER Sky Lynx vs CW Sky Lynx).

Earthrise Wheeljack and Grapple don't interest me, because cosmetic differences aside, they don't bring anything substantially new to make me want to buy them when I already own the previous CHUG toys. I guess if they're going to redo a CHUG character then that toy is going to have to work harder to persuade me to purchase it over the existing toy. Sure, Earthrise Wheeljack and Grapple both do the same basic thing as my United Wheeljack and Grapple; they transform from robots that are immediately recognisable as these characters into vehicle modes which are also immediately identifiable as these characters. Sure, the ER toys have more G1-looking designs, but I don't need my CHUGs to be slavishly G1 accurate in looks (I find that kind of dull); if I want a more G1 accurate Wheeljack and Grapple then I have my G1 Wheeljack and Grapple to scratch that itch! And if I wanted to play with a more cartoon-like Wheeljack and Grapple toy, then I have my Masterpiece to scratch that itch. Basically the toy needs to offer me something that neither the previous CHUG or MP versions offer.

Case in point: Siege Ultra Magnus
This was my third CHUG Ultra Magnus, on top of owning MP Ultra Magnus, but I still bought him anyway. Why? Because that toy does something that no other Ultra Magnus toy anywhere offers. It has a fully articulated autonomous cab robot that can combine with its trailer to become an articulated armoured super robot. G1, Classics, CW, MP... no other UM does this. Just Siege.

So I guess it's all about new CHUG toys scratching a new itch. But if that character already has an existing toy (CHUG and/or MP), then there's a greater chance that this itch has been scratched. Whereas a wholly new CHUG character toy is a no-brainer - just take my money! But yeah, it is true that Hasbro are releasing more new characters in CHUG than before.

I'd just like Hasbro to release more "new" characters for CHUG on the larger and more expensive end of---

...shut. Up. And. Take. My money!

[Tha_Phantom]

Actually, upon closer analysis they are doing a near half half split nowadays between "old" and "new" CHUG characters.

Well there you go, I think that's fair. When people insist on getting only or mostly new/obscure characters I think that's an unrealistic expectation, which I explained above.
I'm happy to skip some of the repeat figures too, since if I have it already in CW then that figure must take priority (since I display my combiners combined together). I was able to make an exception for Sunstreaker because he's a really important character to me. I couldn't for the likes of Hound or Trailbreaker, but at least I was able to get their mould partners that I didn't already have, being Hot Shot and Hoist respectively.
It doesn't bother me at all that they have been redone though. Other people want them so I'm happy for them and I'll enjoy the saving to my wallet.