How much of G1 would you like to see done as CHUG toys?

[Tha_Phantom]

Actually, upon closer analysis they are doing a near half half split nowadays between "old" and "new" CHUG characters.

Well there you go, I think that's fair. When people insist on getting only or mostly new/obscure characters I think that's an unrealistic expectation, which I explained above.
I'm happy to skip some of the repeat figures too, since if I have it already in CW then that figure must take priority (since I display my combiners combined together). I was able to make an exception for Sunstreaker because he's a really important character to me. I couldn't for the likes of Hound or Trailbreaker, but at least I was able to get their mould partners that I didn't already have, being Hot Shot and Hoist respectively.
It doesn't bother me at all that they have been redone though. Other people want them so I'm happy for them and I'll enjoy the saving to my wallet.

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

I've said this a few times elsewhere, but...ideally almost all of it, sooner or later. I don't mind at all if we get an Optimus, a Megatron, a Starscream, and a Bumblebee etc. in every line or two or three. That's what sells, and as a few others have said, it gives people who missed out on previous versions of a character or want to upgrade options to do so without breaking the bank.

But what I'd like to see also is the repaint/remolds of those big-name character toys being used to fill out some of the later/more obscure characters, as well as characters from later series. New Mirage toy? Cool - let's get an Aquaspeeder/Stormtrooper homage there too. New Trailbreaker mold? Sweet - how about a CHUG Armada Red Alert, or this guy? They don't have to be perfect homages, just a new head/chest/whatever will usually do. Same thing for the alt-mode and size-class/price-point - near enough is good enough.
To be fair, Hasbro/Takara have gotten better at this sort of thing lately. I'd kind of like it extended a little bit more is all, maybe including some of the less Bayverse-y designs in Studio Series etc. as well.

[Bidoofdude]

I suppose things can be quite frustrating between camps with the split of new updates and first time updates. Obviously I think a lot of collectors who have been in the game for ages and can afford to do so would prefer a continuous quick stream of those 87-93 obscure characters to just finally get it done. Padding out can also be a reprieve though for people like me, since a lot of close together releases I want mean I’m gonna struggle to get them all! It also caters to those new fans previously mentioned by Tha_Phantom.

It’s definitely not without its problems: it took almost 5 years to get just the 1984 seekers from the original classics mould (blood from a stone), and some figures like Eject from the TR Rewind mould never even got made, which still makes me very angry- the switch to micromaster cassettes makes it pretty much impossible we’ll ever see one, bar something like the Bumblebee movie sneaking in a Frenzy repaint from Rumble.

They seem to be doing a generally better job now, with all the major seekers getting made in the same year or so. We can only hope that better care is given to satisfying all those facets. Some things like the Siege Skywarp disaster still have me wary.

[Tha_Phantom]

It also caters to those new fans previously mentioned by Paulbot.

That's a funny way to spell my name.

[Bidoofdude]

That's a funny way to spell my name.

Fixed!

[Deano85]

Still waiting for them to retool the Earthrise Cliffjumper into Bumblebee.
I don't have a CHUG Bumblebee, so that would be useful.

Funny when there's too many bumblebees we complain, but when we actually want a new bumblebee they hold out on us haha. I definitely want an Earthrise Bumblebee too. Cliffjumper is great.

[dirge]

Funny when there's too many bumblebees we complain, but when we actually want a new bumblebee they hold out on us haha. I definitely want an Earthrise Bumblebee too. Cliffjumper is great.

I for one don't want to see the Cliffjumper mould used for Bumblebee.

[GoktimusPrime]

I for one don't want to see the Cliffjumper mould used for Bumblebee.

Agreed. None of the G1 or G2 Bumblebee toys were ever shared moulds with Cliffjumper. The original Microman-based toys were entirely different moulds - just with shared engineering, same as Bumblejumper - but they were never shared moulds like say the Datsuns, Seekers, Cassettes etc. Also, there are LOTS of previous CHUG Bumblebee toys that people can go collect. Many that would be better suited to the character than a Cliffjumper repaint. Besides, aren't they releasing a yellow repaint of ER Cliffjumper as Hubcap? Makes more sense considering that unlike Bumblebee, G1 Hubcap is a retool of Cliffjumper.

Previous Cliffjumpers as repaints of Bumblebee never suited that character at all and I think that a yellow Cliffjumper repaint would have the same issue in reverse. The other thing is that G1 Bumblebee was also commonly available in red and G1 Cliffjumper was commonly available in yellow. Heck, at my local shops in the 80s yellow Cliffjumpers were actually more common (and Bumblebee was about evenly available in red and yellow)! So yellow Cliffjumper holds more childhood nostalgia for me than red Cliffy, and both red and yellow Bumblebee hold equal childhood feels. And let's not forget that Cliffjumper appeared in G1 canon in both yellow and red.

👆Cliffjumper in yellow in "More Than Meets The Eye." He also appears in these colours in "The Ultimate Doom" (beach scene).
👇Sunbow had initially intended to use Cliffjumper's yellow colour for the cartoon model, but a decision was made later to use the red version instead. My guess is that some scenes weren't colour-corrected which is why we still see him on the odd occasion in yellow.


Ya know, I wouldn't mind seeing a CHUG Bumblebee toy released with a hatchback or VW Beetle mode body but with ER Cliffjumper's head - in yellow, and then sold as Generations Pretender Bumblebee. Replace the bazooka with a new Prime Master modelled after Bumblebee's Pretender shell. It would be G1 accurate since Pretender Bumblebee has Cliffjumper's head (but Bumblebee's body)!

[Deano85]

I for one don't want to see the Cliffjumper mould used for Bumblebee.

Probably why Bumblebee is coming at the end in a new mould

[Tha_Phantom]

I doubt WFC Bumblebee would be a straight up repaint of Cliffjumper (although if it is, then it's well deserved payback ) but I reckon it will share some parts while mostly appearing to be a different figure.