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  • Early G1 (Golden Age): 1984-85

    1 4.76%
  • Early G1: 1984-87

    3 14.29%
  • Early and Middle G1: 1984-1990

    3 14.29%
  • All of G1: 1984-93

    14 66.67%
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Thread: How much of G1 would you like to see done as CHUG toys?

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    Default How much of G1 would you like to see done as CHUG toys?

    Note: Just for the purposes of this discussion, we're going to use the "Age of Distinction" model of dividing G1.

    Here is a list of Hasbro G1 toys. I will be checking off the ones that have already been made as CHUG toys in blue. Toys that exist in CHUG but as a convention or figure subscription service exclusive are marked in red.
    Please let me know if I've missed any.

    Early G1 (1984-87)
    (Golden Age; 1984-85)
    Optimus Prime
    Bluestreak
    Jazz
    Hound
    Ironhide
    Mirage
    Prowl
    Ratchet
    Sideswipe
    Sunstreaker
    Trailbreaker
    Wheeljack
    Brawn
    Bumblebee

    "Bumblejumper"/"Bumper"
    Cliffjumper
    Gears
    Huffer
    Windcharger
    Megatron
    Soundwave
    Buzzsaw
    Laserbeak
    Frenzy
    Ravage
    Rumble
    Skywarp
    Starscream
    Thundercracker
    Jetfire
    Omega Supreme
    Blaster
    Grapple
    Hoist
    Inferno
    Red Alert
    Skids
    Smokescreen
    Tracks
    Perceptor
    Beachcomber
    Cosmos
    Powerglide
    Seaspray
    Warpath
    Roadbuster
    Whirl
    Grimlock
    Slag
    Sludge
    Snarl
    Swoop
    Topspin
    Twin Twist

    Camshaft
    Downshift
    Overdrive
    Powerdasher (Aragon)
    Powerdasher (Cromar)
    Powerdasher (Zetar)
    Shockwave
    Dirge
    Ramjet
    Thrust
    Astrotrain
    Blitzwing
    Bombshell
    Kickback
    Shrapnel

    Barrage
    Chop Shop
    Ransack
    Venom
    Bonecrusher
    Long Haul
    Hook
    Mixmaster
    Scavenger
    Scrapper

    Mini Spy (Buggy)
    Mini Spy (Porsche)
    Mini Spy (Jeep)
    Mini Spy (Toyota)

    (Silver Age; 1986-87)
    Rodimus Prime
    Ultra Magnus
    Wreck Gar
    Blurr
    Hot Rod
    Kup
    Broadside
    Sandstorm
    Springer
    Metroplex
    Sky Lynx

    Hubcap
    Outback
    Pipes
    Swerve
    Tailgate
    Wheelie

    Eject
    Ramhorn
    Rewind

    Steeljaw
    Air Raid
    Fireflight
    Silverbolt
    Skydive
    Slingshot
    Blades
    First Aid
    Groove
    Hot Spot
    Streetwise
    Galvatron
    Cyclonus
    Scourge
    Octane
    Gnaw
    Trypticon

    Runabout
    Runamuck

    Breakdown
    Dead End
    Drag Strip
    Motormaster
    Wildrider
    Blast-Off
    Brawl
    Onslaught
    Swindle
    Vortex
    Divebomb
    Headstrong
    Rampage
    Razorclaw
    Tantrum
    Ratbat
    Spectro
    Spyglass
    Viewfinder
    Fortress Maximus
    Brainstorm
    Chromedome
    Hardhead
    Highbrow
    Blurr (Targetmaster)
    Hot Rod (Targetmaster)
    Kup (Targetmaster)
    Crosshairs

    Pointblank
    Sureshot
    Cloudraker
    Fastlane
    Punch/Counterpunch
    Doublecross
    Grotusque
    Repugnus
    Afterburner
    Lightspeed
    Nosecone
    Scattershot
    Strafe
    Chase

    Freeway
    Goldbug
    Rollbar
    Searchlight
    Wideload
    Scorponok
    Apeface
    Mindwipe
    Skullcruncher
    Snapdragon
    Weirdwolf
    Cyclonus (Targetmaster)
    Scourge (Targetmaster)
    Misfire
    Slugslinger
    Triggerhappy
    Sixshot
    Overkill

    Slugfest
    Pounce
    Wingspan
    Battletrap
    Flywheels
    Hun-Grrr
    Blot
    Cutthroat
    Rippersnapper
    Sinnertwin


    Middle G1 (1989-90) Bronze Age
    Optimus Prime (Powermaster)
    Getaway

    Joyride
    Slapdash
    Hosehead
    Nightbeat
    Siren
    Landfill
    Quickmix
    Scoop
    Catilla
    Chainclaw
    Cloudburst
    Groundbreaker
    Gunrunner
    Landmine
    Sky High (Pretender)
    Splashdown
    Waverider
    Quickswitch
    Backstreet
    Dogfight
    Override
    Fizzle
    Sizzle
    Guzzle
    Grand Slam
    Raindance
    Beastbox
    Squawktalk
    Darkwing
    Dreadwind
    Doubledealer
    Fangry
    Horri-Bull
    Squeezeplay

    Needlenose
    Quake
    Spinister
    Bomb-Burst

    Bugly
    Carnivac
    Finback
    Iguanus
    Roadgrabber
    Skullgrin
    Snarler
    Submarauder
    Crankcase
    Ruckus
    Windsweeper
    Cindersaur
    Flamefeather
    Sparkstalker
    Snaptrap
    Tentakil
    Nautilator
    Seawing
    Skalor
    Overbite

    Bumblebee (Pretender)
    Grimlock (Pretender)
    Jazz (Pretender)
    Doubleheader
    Longtooth
    Pincher
    Crossblades
    Vroom
    Skyhammer
    Big Shot
    Flak

    Sidetrack
    Sunrunner
    High Jump
    Mudslinger
    Powertrain
    Tote
    Freewheeler
    Roadhandler
    Swindler

    Tailspin
    Fixit
    Red Hot
    Seawatch
    Stakeout
    Erector
    Overload
    Hot House
    Ironworks
    Countdown
    Groundshaker
    Thunderwing

    Starscream (Pretender)
    Bludgeon
    Octopunch
    Stranglehold
    Birdbrain
    Bristleback
    Icepick
    Scowl
    Slog
    Wildfly
    Roadblock
    Nightflight
    Storm Cloud

    Tailwind
    Whisper
    Blackjack

    Detour
    Hyperdrive
    Roadhugger
    Flattop
    Roughstuff
    Airwave
    Greasepit
    Skyhopper
    Skystalker
    Optimus Prime (Action Master)
    Blaster (Action Master)
    Bumblebee (Action Master)
    Grimlock (Action Master)
    Inferno (Action Master)
    Jackpot
    Jazz (Action Master)
    Kick-Off
    Mainframe
    Over-Run
    Prowl (Action Master)
    Rad
    Rollout
    Skyfall
    Snarl (Action Master)
    Sprocket
    Wheeljack (Action Master)
    Gusher
    Pipeline
    Retro
    Surge
    Crumble
    Groundpounder
    Neutro
    Takedown
    Blaze Master
    Eagle Eye
    Sky High (Micromaster)
    Tread Bolt
    Big Daddy

    Greaser
    Hubs
    Trip-Up
    Big Hauler
    Heavy Tread
    Hydraulic
    Slow Poke
    Oiler
    Power Run
    Roadburner
    Slide
    Strikedown
    Wheel Blaze
    Barrage (Micromaster)
    Blastmaster
    Heave
    Missilemaster
    Moonrock
    Phaser
    Full-Barrel
    Overflow
    Axer
    Banzai-Tron
    Devastator (Action Master)
    Gutcruncher
    Krok
    Megatron (Action Master)
    Shockwave (Action Master)
    Soundwave (Action Master)
    Starscream (Action Master)
    Treadshot
    Bombshock
    Dropshot
    Growl
    Tracer
    Barricade
    Ground Hog
    Motorhead
    Roller Force
    Blackout
    Spaceshot
    Meltdown
    Half-Track
    Direct-Hit
    Powerpunch

    Fireshot
    Vanquish
    Excavator
    Grit
    Hammer
    Knockout
    Sledge
    Stonecruncher
    Cement-Head
    Terror-Tread

    Late G1 (1991-93) Dark Age
    Powerflash
    Sideswipe (Action Master)
    Tracks (Action Master)
    Circuit
    Rumbler
    Omega Spreem
    Windmill
    Gripper
    Flame
    Lightspeed (Motorvator)
    Bombshell
    Charger
    Double Punch
    Slicer

    Take-Off
    Thundercracker (Action Master)
    Turbo Master
    Overlord
    Boss
    Flash
    Hurricane
    Rotorstorm
    Scorch
    Thunder Clash

    Rescue Force (jet)
    Rescue Force 1 (claw tank)
    Rescue Force 2 (dune buggy)
    Rescue Force 3 (drill tank)
    Falcon
    Skydive (Predator)
    Skyquake
    Snare
    Stalker
    Talon
    "Big Horn" (a.k.a. "Bonecrusher")
    "Hooks" (a.k.a. "Hook")
    "Heavy Lode" (a.k.a. "Long Haul")
    "Eviscerater" (a.k.a. "Mixmaster")
    "Desmond" (a.k.a. "Scavenger")
    "Ventus Lamina" (a.k.a. "Scrapper")
    Pyro/Spark
    Deftwing
    Ironfist
    Aquafend
    Deluge
    Jetstorm
    Speedstream
    Rapido
    Skram
    Turbofire
    Windbreaker
    Colossus/Clench
    Calcar
    Fearswoop
    Hawk/Eagle Eye
    Snipe/Afterburner
    Terradive
    Tornado/Windrazor
    Aquablast
    Drench
    Hydradread
    Rage
    Last edited by GoktimusPrime; 29th June 2020 at 08:33 PM.

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    You're missing quite a few Convention/Subscription toys (including Action Master Thundercracker!) and some of the Titan/Prime masters

    This list is useful though for a counter arguement I want to make so hopefully others can help advise and make this complete

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    Nobody? Ok well

    Add to the CHUG list

    Hubcap (leaked)
    Scorponok (coming soon)
    Needlenose (Subscription service)
    Ruckus (Subscription service)
    Windsweeper (Subscription service)
    Octopunch (Primemaster)
    Banzai-Tron (BotCon)
    Thundercracker Action Master (BotCon)
    Scorch (Botcon)
    Double Punch (Botcon)
    Rapido (Botcon)
    Skyquake (BotCon)

    You could possibily add these but some might think the are not "CHUG enough", others would be using these toys in their collection
    Steeljaw (War for Cybertron)
    Hosehead (Cab, headonly, Titanmaster)
    Dogfight (Adventure exclusive)
    Crankcase (Movie Cybertron toy redo)
    Octopunch (BotCon SG)
    Banzai-Tron (2010 Movie/Generations line)
    Ironfist (Subscription service "Fisitron")
    Circuit (Subscription service)
    Last edited by Paulbot; 23rd June 2020 at 09:15 PM. Reason: Added Skyquake

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    Someone, please quote this so Gok can see it.

    As long as we are compiling a list here are the JP G1 characters that I have on my list that are unique moulds or repaints not available in the US and EU lines.

    -JP Headmasters 1987-

    -Cybertron Master Warriors-
    Kirk
    Lione
    Loafer
    Rodney
    Shuffler
    Toraizer

    -Trainbots-
    Getsuei
    Kaen
    Seizan
    Shouki
    Suiken
    Yukikaze

    -W Cassettebots-
    Dile
    Graphy
    Noise
    Saur

    -Targetmasters-
    Artfire (w/ Nightstick)
    Stepper (w/ Nebulon)

    -Communications Officers-
    Soundblaster (w/ Buzzsaw)
    Twincast (w/ Steeljaw)

    -JP Masterforce 1988-

    -Masterforce Warriors-
    Aquastar
    Bullet
    Zetca

    -Sparkdash-
    Guzzle
    Hardspark
    Hotspark
    Javil
    Wildspark

    -Destrons-
    Browning

    -Pretenders-
    Metalhawk

    -Six Changer-
    Sixknight

    -Godmasters-
    Buster
    Doubleclouder
    Hydra
    Ranger
    Road King

    -Armored Warrior-
    Godbomber

    -Godmaster Leaders-
    Overlord (w/ Mega & Giga)
    Super Ginrai

    -Headmaster Juniors-
    Goshooter
    Minerva

    -Headmasters-
    Grand Maximus
    BlackZarak
    BlackRoritchi

    -JP Victory 1989-

    -Dinoforce-
    Doryu
    Gairyu
    Goryu
    Kakuryu
    Rairyu
    Yokuryu

    -Multiforce-
    Dashtacker
    Machtackle
    Wingwaver

    -Breastforce-
    Drillhorn (w/ Hornbreast)
    Guyhawk (w/ Hawkbreast)
    Hellbat (w/ K?moribreast)
    Jallguar (w/ Jaguarbreast)
    Killbison (w/ Bisonbreast)
    Leozack (w/ Lionbreast)

    -Brainmasters-
    Blacker
    Braver
    Laster

    -Armored Warrior-
    Victory Leo

    -Six Changer-
    Greatshot

    -Interstellar Transport-
    Galaxy Shuttle

    -Leaders-
    Deszaras
    Star Saber

    -Crossformers-
    Black Shadow
    Blue Bacchus

    -JP Zone 1990-

    -Zone OVA pack-in-
    Rabbicrater

    -Metrosquad Leader-
    Metrotitan (w/ Metrobomb,
    Metrodash, Metroshot, Metrotank)

    -Micro Transformers-
    Battle Patrol Team
    (Gunlift, Powerbomb)
    (Sunrunner, Sidetrack
    Super Car Patrol Team
    (Black Heat, Ginham, Deadhour, Road Hugger)

    -Bases (Micro Transformers)-
    Gunrunner
    Deadwheeler

    -Micro Transformers Powered Masters-
    Sonic Bomber
    (w/ Sonic)
    Dai Atlas
    (w/ Speeder)
    Roadfire
    (w/ Drillbuster)

    -Stations (Micro Transformers)-
    Glasspit
    Overair

    Deluxe (Micro Transformers)
    Missile Bull
    Skywave

    -JP Return of Convoy 1991-

    -Cybertrons-
    Grandus (w/ Spinner)
    Sky Garry (w/ Shotbomber & Micro Trailer #0)
    Star Convoy
    (w/ Hot Rodimus & Micro Trailer)

    -Micro Transformer 6 Team-
    Sixliner
    (Alan, D-Go, Joe, Leaf, Night, Spark)

    -JP Operation Combination 1992-

    -5-Robot Gestalts-
    Battle Gaia
    (Great Cannon, Leyland, Sandstorm, Shuttle Gunner, Target Hawk)
    Guard City
    (Fire Chief, Fly-Up, Safety, Sparkride, Streetstar)

    -Micro Transformer 6-Robot Gestalts-
    Sixbuilder
    (Crush-Bull, Digger, Gran Arm, Iron Lift, Mixing, Treader)
    Sixtrain
    (Atlan, Converter, Desire, Raise, San D-Go, Windy)
    Sixturbo
    Road Police
    (Circuit, Discharge, Glide, Neo-Wheel, Sireen)
    Sixwing
    (Chain Gun, Falcon, Flanker, Missile Run, Raker, Supersonic)

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    And from that list, many have CHUG toys including:

    Shuffler
    Shouki
    Artfire (w/ Nightstick)
    Stepper (w/ Nebulon)
    Soundblaster (w/ Buzzsaw)
    Metalhawk (primemaster)
    Godbomber
    Overlord (w/ Mega & Giga)
    Super Ginrai
    Minerva (titanmaster)
    Grand Maximus
    Kakuryu (United EX)
    Drillhorn
    Guyhawk
    Hellbat
    Jallguar
    Killbison
    Leozack
    Deszaras
    Black Shadow
    Star Convoy
    Road Police

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bidoofdude View Post
    I embrace a lot of the older characters getting new figures, because a lot of the (now really old!) CHUG figures are starting to lose their lustre. Hell, some of those toys were themselves repaints and simple retools. Though getting to every nook and cranny of G1 is super cool and inevitable, I think having more definitive versions of existing characters (and just having more options really) is just as important, especially as the fandom expands. After all, if we’d stopped when a character first got represented, we’d be still stuck with the Springer repaint of Cybertron Evac, or Classics Voyager Megatron!
    I definitely understand the desire to see "proper" CHUG toys done of previous toys that were repaints of moulds that just didn't work (e.g. Earthrise Cliffjumper etc.) - and there are still a number of toys that have technically been CHUGgified but could really do with better representations (i.e. not ill-fitting reuses of previous moulds) - e.g. Huffer & Pipes.

    I don't object to Hasbro revisiting already CHUGgified toys - I did recently buy ER Sky Lynx and sold off my CW Sky Lynx; but on the other hand I held onto my Henkei Ironhide and Lambor and skipped their CW & Siege counterparts. <shrugs> I also skipped ER Wheeljack as I'm perfectly content with my United Wheeljack, even if he is a shared mould with Tracks (and I'm not saying that this always has to be a thing).

    I guess I would prefer if HasTak prioritised characters who've yet to be CHUGgified first and then come back and revisit the already CHUGgified characters at a later point. Yeah, I really do want a better CHUG Huffer and Pipes, but I'd like to see a CHUG Hubcap, Sureshot, Pointblank etc. done first. Having said that, I wouldn't say no to a better CHUG Huffer or Pipes if they released them sooner either. For me, if they release a new CHUG toy of a character that's already CHUGged then it's a "maybe" for me, but if it's a new incarnation of a character that's never been CHUGged before, then it's a definite purchase. With rare exceptions like Grand Maximus because I just don't have the damn space for that thing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime View Post
    I guess I would prefer if HasTak prioritised characters who've yet to be CHUGgified first and then come back and revisit the already CHUGgified characters at a later point.
    If I had a dollar for every time I read this. It's not just you Gok, I've seen a few people repeat this sentiment.
    The thing is, we will eventually get all those obscure characters I'm sure, but Hasbro also need to keep doing the ones that will be guaranteed to sell (your Primes, your Megatrons, your Starscreams, etc). We've been very fortunate to get things like CHUG combiners, clones, Allicons, Impactor, Powerdashers, Etc.
    You yourself aren't a fan of the previous CHUG Cliffjumper as it's just a red Bumblebee, but technically it's a CHUG Cliffjumper, right? Likewise, I'm not all too impressed with some earlier CHUG figures such as Sunstreaker (either version of him) and am much looking forward to Earthrise. The other thing to keep in mind is people are coming and going from the fandom every year and may not have gotten previous versions of these characters. So there are many good reasons to keep giving us options of the more popular characters while also giving us more obscure characters.
    Looking to buy lucky draw Armada Prime and Diaclone Marlboor Wheeljack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tha_Phantom View Post
    The other thing to keep in mind is people are coming and going from the fandom every year and may not have gotten previous versions of these characters.
    Good point. There are 13 year old Transformers fans today buying Earthrise Cliffjumper and Astrotrain who were not born when the first CHUG versions of those characters were on the shelf.

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    Actually, upon closer analysis they are doing a near half half split nowadays between "old" and "new" CHUG characters. Although there is a 'size bias' with the smaller/cheaper end having many more "new" CHUG characters vs toys on the dearer/bigger end of the scale. We have lots of CHUG Micromasters now but seeing whole new big boxed toys come out in CHUG is not so common. And yes, I will grant that some of these boxed CHUGs are updates of previous CHUGs that bring something completely new to the table (e.g. ER Sky Lynx vs CW Sky Lynx).

    Earthrise Wheeljack and Grapple don't interest me, because cosmetic differences aside, they don't bring anything substantially new to make me want to buy them when I already own the previous CHUG toys. I guess if they're going to redo a CHUG character then that toy is going to have to work harder to persuade me to purchase it over the existing toy. Sure, Earthrise Wheeljack and Grapple both do the same basic thing as my United Wheeljack and Grapple; they transform from robots that are immediately recognisable as these characters into vehicle modes which are also immediately identifiable as these characters. Sure, the ER toys have more G1-looking designs, but I don't need my CHUGs to be slavishly G1 accurate in looks (I find that kind of dull); if I want a more G1 accurate Wheeljack and Grapple then I have my G1 Wheeljack and Grapple to scratch that itch! And if I wanted to play with a more cartoon-like Wheeljack and Grapple toy, then I have my Masterpiece to scratch that itch. Basically the toy needs to offer me something that neither the previous CHUG or MP versions offer.

    Case in point: Siege Ultra Magnus
    This was my third CHUG Ultra Magnus, on top of owning MP Ultra Magnus, but I still bought him anyway. Why? Because that toy does something that no other Ultra Magnus toy anywhere offers. It has a fully articulated autonomous cab robot that can combine with its trailer to become an articulated armoured super robot. G1, Classics, CW, MP... no other UM does this. Just Siege.

    So I guess it's all about new CHUG toys scratching a new itch. But if that character already has an existing toy (CHUG and/or MP), then there's a greater chance that this itch has been scratched. Whereas a wholly new CHUG character toy is a no-brainer - just take my money! But yeah, it is true that Hasbro are releasing more new characters in CHUG than before.

    I'd just like Hasbro to release more "new" characters for CHUG on the larger and more expensive end of---

    ...shut. Up. And. Take. My money!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime View Post
    Actually, upon closer analysis they are doing a near half half split nowadays between "old" and "new" CHUG characters.
    Well there you go, I think that's fair. When people insist on getting only or mostly new/obscure characters I think that's an unrealistic expectation, which I explained above.
    I'm happy to skip some of the repeat figures too, since if I have it already in CW then that figure must take priority (since I display my combiners combined together). I was able to make an exception for Sunstreaker because he's a really important character to me. I couldn't for the likes of Hound or Trailbreaker, but at least I was able to get their mould partners that I didn't already have, being Hot Shot and Hoist respectively.
    It doesn't bother me at all that they have been redone though. Other people want them so I'm happy for them and I'll enjoy the saving to my wallet.
    Looking to buy lucky draw Armada Prime and Diaclone Marlboor Wheeljack.

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