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    Just with the comparison with Star Wars...the cartoons actually add to the story (movies) so that a much larger and more complex picture is drawn in one continuity. Which I like.

    Transformers now has so many totally different continuities (which I don't like) and with the movies we can expect 3 x 2 hr (approx) episodes. If the cartoon was in movie continuity we could have so much more from one Universe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDirtyDigger View Post
    Just with the comparison with Star Wars...the cartoons actually add to the story (movies) so that a much larger and more complex picture is drawn in one continuity. Which I like.

    Transformers now has so many totally different continuities (which I don't like) and with the movies we can expect 3 x 2 hr (approx) episodes. If the cartoon was in movie continuity we could have so much more from one Universe.
    I agree. Kind of like how the Ghostbuster cartoon complimented the movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDirtyDigger View Post
    Just with the comparison with Star Wars...the cartoons actually add to the story (movies) so that a much larger and more complex picture is drawn in one continuity. Which I like.
    I like that to. In the Star Wars universe basically every character you see has some small detail about them, others have vast detailed histories and yet you only see them for half a second in the films.
    Aurra Sing comes to mind. She has a big back story and yet is only in Episode I for half a second

    On the other hand though, I also like having some stories that a different. The whole What If? thing. Having multiple continuities allows this, and you can see the same thing through different views or ways. It is interesting to see how each Optimus Prime is the same and yet different.

    Quote Originally Posted by jaydisc View Post
    I like the current three pronged (Movie/Animated/Universe) TF approach. It casts a wider net.
    I do too. The main advantage I see is variaty. There is something for everyone (well at least almost everyone)
    I like Animated's style, and the figure have some really good engineering and design. But I also like the more traditional style that we see in Classics/Universe. And I also dislike the style seen in the Movie line, we can't win them all, but I can have at least 2 out of 3. The Point I'm trying to make is that this way, we get something that we can enjoy. They may not enjoy as much as if they had put 100% into it, but the pay off is is that you get something to enjoy, otherwise they might take the other road and you would get stuck with something that they put 100% into that you think is 100% crap

    Quote Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime View Post
    WB's Batman animated series followed up on the movies with a new darker/grittier look and that's been really successful.
    For Batman:The Animated Series, yes very true, for The Batman, not so much.
    The latter was a lot more light hearted. Just look at the way they did the villains, especially Joker, they were crazy and comical. And the latter seasons because a lot more campier. Have you heard the Theme song for Season 3,4 & 5?!?!?!
    Think a cross between Hawaiian Surf music and the Batman theme from the 1960s live action TV series with Adam West
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    I'm glad that Animated didnt visually follow on from the movie, the movie characters looked mostly like scrap metal, and although the designs look much better in the sequel comics having to animate all that useless horrible "detail" would have cost a fortune for any close up shots.

    Story wise, if the Animated series expanded on the movie it would have more or less a blank slate as the movie had about as much plot and characterisation in it as the AHM comic series.

    A different angle incorporating some of the more popular movie elements as Animated did was the smartest move Hasbro could make. Sure it could have been a bit more mature, but Hasbro had a target audience in mind and stuck with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kup
    Although saying that X-Men movie influenced X-Men evolution is a bit of a stretch it still serves to make your point
    Well there are varying limits of influence - and there is some influence in X-Men Evolution visually... e.g. the uniforms are darker; Wolverine isn't wearing yellow spandex.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDirtyDigger
    Transformers now has so many totally different continuities (which I don't like) and with the movies we can expect 3 x 2 hr (approx) episodes. If the cartoon was in movie continuity we could have so much more from one Universe.
    To be fair, Transformers has never had a single universe/continuity.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paulbot
    The Movie did influence Animated that's why Animated has characters named Bumblebee and Ratchet and a macguffin called the AllSpark.
    When I spoke to Eric he told me that a lot of those were "last minute" decisions. Initially Hasbro intended for Animated to be entirely unrelated to the movie - and it is - but then much later on in the developmental stage they decided to put in references from the movie, such as naming their Cosmic MacGuffin(TM) the AllSpark(R). I'm not sure if the inclusion of Ratchet was influenced by the movie or not - we've had Red Alert (who was called Ratchet in Japan) in the Unicron Trilogy. But I read somewhere that Bumblebee was originally slated to be Hot Shot, but they later changed him to Bumblebee - I think that was a later decision made that was influenced by the movie.

    So there are influences from the movie, but as TheDirtyDigger said, it's a relatively minor influence. I would have preferred a greater/stronger influence.

    Again - JMHO yo.

    Quote Originally Posted by i_amtrunks
    Story wise, if the Animated series expanded on the movie it would have more or less a blank slate as the movie had about as much plot and characterisation in it as the AHM comic series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime View Post
    Well there are varying limits of influence - and there is some influence in X-Men Evolution visually... e.g. the uniforms are darker; Wolverine isn't wearing yellow spandex.
    Because he prefers his orange spandex better!


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    Well it's a brownish-orange which is similar to Wolverine's brown and tan costume from the comics - only with more black.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime View Post
    But I read somewhere that Bumblebee was originally slated to be Hot Shot, but they later changed him to Bumblebee - I think that was a later decision made that was influenced by the movie.
    I read that aswell.

    Also that Ratchet replaced a female Red Alert,

    [ANIMATED SPOILERZ, Maybe...]who will be showing up anyway. Hot Shot too I think...

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    If what has been leaked about Season 3 is true, Gutsman then you are correct on your "Spoilerz".
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    I would preferred a cartoon based on the Classics toys (as a G1 reboot, which is what Animated is) over Cartoon-Network stylisation - and without the goofy human villains. Invisible-Pink-Unicorns know I hate those human villains. (-_-)

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