Were they KOed before or after their initial reissue? Laserbeak was first reissued in September 2003 with TFC Soundwave and Ravage was first reissued in March 2005 w/ TFC Soundblaster. There have been known cases of G1 TFs being KOed after they've been reissued (e.g.: Predaking) but I'm not aware of any TFs that have been KOed before being reissued.