Star Trek Movie

[Paulbot]

Enough with the Star Wars talk in a Star Trek thread

[GoktimusPrime]

I'm personally not a big fan of the Universal Translator... I would prefer it if non-human species just spoke their own languages with subtitles and folks just had to learn to be multilingual, like in Star Wars, Lord of the Rings etc. Heck... even humans have multiple languages! I find it difficult to imagine that the entire Vulcan or Klingon races would have just one language. In Middle Earth there are various different dialects of each language, e.g.: there are various kinds of Elvish tongues such as Quenya and Sindarin.

Okay - so even if one were to suspend disbelief and accept the notion of a circuit that conveniently translates languages... why would their lips move as if they're speaking English? Even the Star Trek Wiki entry on the Universal Translator states, "Were the device real, it would more likely have an effect similar to watching a movie dubbed into another language."

[Paulbot]

I'm personally not a big fan of the Universal Translator... I would prefer it if non-human species just spoke their own languages with subtitles and folks just had to learn to be multilingual, like in Star Wars, Lord of the Rings etc. Heck... even humans have multiple languages! I find it difficult to imagine that the entire Vulcan or Klingon races would have just one language. In Middle Earth there are various different dialects of each language, e.g.: there are various kinds of Elvish tongues such as Quenya and Sindarin.

Okay - so even if one were to suspend disbelief and accept the notion of a circuit that conveniently translates languages... why would their lips move as if they're speaking English? Even the Star Trek Wiki entry on the Universal Translator states, "Were the device real, it would more likely have an effect similar to watching a movie dubbed into another language."

Yes it would look like a dubbed movie and in Enterprise (where the technology was new) we saw this. The people of the 24th Century probably learn major alien languages at school anyway.

As for your examples it would not be logical for the Vulcan's to have multiple dialects and the Klingon's are united under a line of Emperors who have probably enforced a single language on their people by force since Kahless.

If you can believe that Han Solo can understand the big bear* that's following him around I don't see why you can't handle this. *(How I Met Your Mother reference)

If you don't like Star Trek fine, but no need to keep complaining about it in a thread which is about Star Trek. Any more and it's trolling.

[roller]

i hope Lord zeds favorite captain, Captain Archer shows up in the movie

he does live to over 120

and i assume this movie will feature the Enterprise launch

and 'in a mirror Darkly' it states that he attended the launch

fan boying is fun

[Lord_Zed]

That's just Gok being a language teacher, We could all poke holes in both the Star Wars and Star Trek universe all day, but that would be better on a thread of its own.

And just for the record the universal translator failed in the TNG episode Darmok where the aliens spoke in a metehorical langauge. Spotlight Wheelie reminded me of that episode a lot.

i hope Lord zeds favorite captain, Captain Archer shows up in the movie

he does live to over 120

and i assume this movie will feature the Enterprise launch

and 'in a mirror Darkly' it states that he attended the launch

fan boying is fun

I hear you Roller, I'm sure Captain Sisko will be in the film to, once again saving that fool Kirk from badguys from the future just like he did in the tv series. I know you'd enjoy that Roller.