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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky Shadow View Post
    Bumblebee (still hating Drift for not being GeeWun enough to be part of the '84-'86 Autobots): "What right does he have to be even in this room?"
    I thought that it was for a different reason than that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by i_amtrunks View Post
    I thought that it was for a different reason than that...
    Well... yes, presumably. I just enjoy the fact that Bumblebee keeps saying things to Drift like:

    "The last thing we want is you being true to what you are."

    ...because I can imagine that Bumblebee's talking about Drift being a Gary Stu fancharacter. Or:

    (Massive flaming explosion that would destroy everything in its maw)

    RATCHET: "What about Drift? Isn't he back there?"

    BUMBLEBEE: "Does it matter?"

    Bwahahaha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    I got issue 9 today, must say I was really disappointed with the artwork for the pages with human characters.
    Yeah I agree.

    I have a idea with the preview pic for next issue...civil war between the Decepticon ranks? :O

    Also it was suprising (maybe...prob sad at the same time) to see Soundwave actually show some sort of emotion towards Rumble getting hurt. Interesting....
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    ugh the artwork on the human/decepticon scenes were terrible, wasn't too fond of it at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genechan View Post
    Also it was suprising (maybe...prob sad at the same time) to see Soundwave actually show some sort of emotion towards Rumble getting hurt. Interesting....
    Very surprising, it's hard to tell for sure since soundwave dosn't have much in the way of facial expressions. Also does soundwave let out like a...sonic scream/wail?

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    ...I didn't like that scene. Soundwave doesn't care about Rumble. He doesn't care about anyone except himself - that's why all the other Decepticons hate him. (-_-)

    From Soundwave's G1 bio & tech specs:
    Opportunist. Despised by all other Decepticons. // Often a target of retaliation by his comrades.
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    From Soundwave's G1 TF: Universe profile:
    ...beneath his smooth-talking, affable surface beats the generator coil of a blackmailer. // Soundwave is the ultimate opportunist... // Although they all despise him, the other Decepticons pretend to like him rather than get on his bad side. As Rumble explains, "Soundwave always has the last laugh." // At times (Soundwave's) hateful personality has resulted in retaliation from (other Decepticons), or worse yet, his abandonment during battle with the Autobots.
    ...that last line indicates that Soundwave hates his fellow Decepticons as much as they hate him.

    So that scene really irritated me as Soundwave was behaving completely out of character. Freakin' sonic-emo. (-_-) I really hope something's gonna happen later to logically explain why the hell Soundwave reacted that way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zahhak
    Also does soundwave let out like a...sonic scream/wail?
    No! That's Frenzy's ability! Again, out of character. If this were an RPG and I were the Dungeon Master, I'd so be deducting experience points from Soundwave for behaving out of character... the player would need to make a heavily penalised save roll vs. insanity. And the whole use of a sonic scream would've been over-ruled... I'd be like, "show me your character sheet" and then explain to the player how he can't do that. Grrr.





    The artwork for the Earth scenes... umm... very Cartoon Networkish. Like something out of Powerpuff Girls, Clone Wars or Transformers Animated. Looks kinda strange in AHM though. Overall I didn't think the art was bad, just a very different style from what we've been used to. Doesn't gel well though - I mean, if they wanted to use that style of art they should've done so from the very beginning and used it consistently. It's disconcerting flicking between a very cartoonish Earth and more traditionally drawn Cybertron. And when did Spike get so freakin' hairy?! What is he, Wolverine?!? Like... ewww.

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    Maybe they are shedding some light on Soundwave and his Cassettes, perhaps their idea (not sure lol). Because there could be the possibility that Soundwave does to some degree care only for the cassettes...damnnit he is quite a mysterious character isn't he.

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    I can't decide weather I like that scene or not, I agree it's completly not Soundwave. Even in the old cartoon series the only emotion I remember him showing like that was petting ravage like a pet.
    It's mainly the fact that its rumble I think erks me, in megatron origins rumble and frenzy didn't even want to be part of soundwaves little army and in AHM..1 or 2 when they showed frenzy new psyco gimmick...I get the feeling that was Soundwaves idea.
    I mean if it was laserbeak/buzzsaw/ravage I can imagine him caring a bit as they were more like his pets and(for what they showed) pretty much 100% loyal and obidiant...rammble rammble rammble
    AHM #10 has alot of s'plainin to do!

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    I ain't happy about the whole Sunstreaker thing. I liked where Furman was (intending) to go with the HQ/Prime-style merging and melding of minds for Hunter and Sunstreaker as glimpsed in Hail and Farewell (I wonder how much was going on in the back rooms at IDW for Furman to create that as canon to his story without the knowledge that his entire storyline had been dropped in favour of AHM).

    As callous as Sunstreaker is, it's just not Sunstreaker to want all humans dead. He isn't an idiot. One group of humans captured him, not all humans were responsible.

    There are reasons why seemingly jerkface 'bots such as he and Grimlock joined the Autobots rather than the Decepticons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zahhak
    and in AHM..1 or 2 when they showed frenzy new psyco gimmick...
    Actually that's not new - G1 Frenzy's always had that ability. The G1 cartoon never used it (they just made Frenzy a Rumble clone) but he did use it in the comics. In G2 Wheeljack amped him up to the max when they were fighting the Swarm and Frenzy literally vibrated himself into oblivion (though with a massive happy smile on his face, appreciating the sheer power that Wheeljack had given him).

    From Frenzy's G1 tech specs:
    "Sow panic and surrender will bloom."
    He knows no cause, only craves to spread fear and destruction. // Can roll his drums to produce high-pitch, grating sound of 200db. Disorients and disrupts electrical flow in opponent's circuitry which makes them malfunction.
    And in G1 he did use this ability against humans too.

    So I really like AHM Frenzy - he's definitely in-character with his G1 counterpart.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zahhak
    I mean if it was laserbeak/buzzsaw/ravage I can imagine him caring a bit as they were more like his pets and(for what they showed) pretty much 100% loyal and obidiant...rammble rammble rammble
    Laserbeak, Buzzsaw and Ravage aren't semi-sentient beasts - they are fully sentient and intelligent beings like other Transformers. They all spoke in the comics, Ravage spoke once in the G1 cartoon and spoke a lot in Beast Wars.

    In The Headmasters, when Soundwave and Blaster killed each other, it was the Decepticon cassettes who rebuilt Soundwave as Soundblaster (and likewise the Autobot cassettes rebuilt Blaster as Twincast). So there's one example of the cassettes caring for Soundwave. Though still not necessarily Soundwave caring for the cassettes... that and the fact that it would've been written at Takara's behest to sell the Soundblaster toy!

    Quote Originally Posted by FFN
    As callous as Sunstreaker is, it's just not Sunstreaker to want all humans dead. He isn't an idiot. One group of humans captured him, not all humans were responsible.

    There are reasons why seemingly jerkface 'bots such as he and Grimlock joined the Autobots rather than the Decepticons.
    Grimlock was pretty nasty king.

    Also, I think that it's meant to show how heavily traumatised Sunstreaker became after his horrific experience at the hands of the Machination - developing a deep-seated resentment against humans. Perhaps pre-Machination Sunstreaker was the Sunstreaker we're more familiar with, but after his time with the Machination he changed. I'd say what they did to him was more than enough to justify him falling toward darkness. But at the same time you could tell that Sunstreaker was loaded with guilt about his deal with the devil - it was consuming him from the inside. This still shows that he is still a good character. Good characters still do bad things, but they differ from evil characters in that they don't revel in it and rather feel bad about it. He also tried to justify it to himself with an attempted utilitarian rationale - that they would sacrifice another world to save theirs (and thus the galaxy?). In the end he realised that he was wrong, hence his confession and attempted redemption.

    I thought it was good showing that Autobots (and Decepticons) aren't good or evil by nature, but by the decisions and actions they make. Now IDW still need to work on further developing Sunstreaker from where he is in Maximum Dinos to what he became in AHM... but of course, that's been an issue with AHM from the outset. Hopefully it'll all make sense when everything's done and dusted. Yeah, I'm being optimistic.

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