Transformers questions by newbies, and not-so-newbies

[liegeprime]

Just the peg holes for the hands Whoopy. Their basically the same except to accomodate the TM partners larger pegs, larger holes on the hands and head top (not sure on this one) was done, kinda like Hotrod, retool for the hands and peghole holder for the TM partner.

[Linthart]

I don't have my old G1 Scourge anymore, but now I have the targetmaster version. Any differences between the two bodies? I can't seem to notice anything or maybe I'm just a noob.

Hmmm are the hands/arms different at all? the TM doesn't sit very far inside his hands at all which would make me believe that they're identical except for the hole behind the cockpit?

[AllHailBlackout]

My parents will NEVER buy me Transformers. They don't like it when I buy them

Yeah.. I know what you mean. Mum would never buy me any. The last time my mum bought me a toy was when I was 12. I don't tell her when I have bought new ones (unless they are cheap Legends figures for $6..then she isn't so angry at me).

[GoktimusPrime]

Hey what do we think the likelyhood is of japan getting a better version of ROTF leader prime before we do? i.e some sort of premium version

unlikely. Remember that in Japan, English language movies are considered to be foreign language movies, which means that they come out quite late there. The first TF movie came out in Japanese cinemas around... Aug/Sep? Ditto the UK for some odd reason (poor UK TFans are always getting shafted )

As for Targetmaster Scourge, I agree with liegeprime - and it's not so much about the depth of the gun holes but the width. Targetmaster Hot Rod's fist and engine holes are wider to accomodate the Nebulan compared to those holes on the original toy.

[canofwhoopass_87]

Just the peg holes for the hands Whoopy. Their basically the same except to accomodate the TM partners larger pegs, larger holes on the hands and head top (not sure on this one) was done, kinda like Hotrod, retool for the hands and peghole holder for the TM partner.

Lol how did I miss that? Of course tm scourge will have bigger peg holes

Umm I'm thinking of completing my G1 TM / HM collection, but I've noticed a number of the ones available on ebay didn't appear in the cartoon. I'm only after the ones that appeared in the tv series. I already know of hardhead, blurr, hot rod and kup, mindwipe, highbrow, brainstorm, crosshair, cyclonus and scourge but not sure about the others. Anyone know?

[Krayt]

All 1987 HM and TM appear in the US season 4..... was one big 60ish minute toy ad....

only the non-rerelease figures were in the Japanese Headmaster Series..... So all the HM'swere there, But not the TM's Hotrod, Kup, Blurr, Cyclonus and Scourge. Jap TM's Artfire and Stepper weren't in the cartoon either.

1988, No US cartoon, but the Headmasters were all in the cartoon in the Japanese colours.... and the gretest TM of all of course, the SEACONS!!!!

[GoktimusPrime]

Every Targetmaster and Headmaster toy has appeared in some form of G1 canon...

Targetmasters
Artfire = appeared in manga
Blurr = appeared in cartoon and comics
Crosshairs = appeared in animé, cartoon, manga and comics
Cyclonus = appeared in cartoon and comics
Hot Rod = appeared in cartoon and comics
Kup = appeared in cartoon and comics
Landfill = appeared in comics
Misfire = appeared in animé, cartoon, manga and comics
Needlenose = appeared in comics
Pointblank = appeared in animé, cartoon, manga and comics
Quake = appeared in comics
Quickmix = appeared in comics
Scoop = appeared in comics
Scourge = appeared in cartoon and comics
Sluglslinger = appeared in animé, cartoon, manga and comics
Spinister = appeared in comics
Stepper = appeared in manga
Sureshot = appeared in animé, cartoon, manga and comics
Triggerhappy = appeared in animé, cartoon, manga and comics

Headmasters
Apeface = appeared in animé, cartoon, manga and comics
Brainstorm = appeared in animé, cartoon, manga and comics
Bullhorn = appeared in animé and manga
Cab = appeared in animé and manga
Cancer = appeared in animé and manga
Chromedome = appeared in animé, cartoon, manga and comics
Fangry = appeared in comics
Fortress Maximus = appeared in animé, cartoon, manga and comics
Goshooter = appeared in animé and manga
Hardhead = appeared in animé, cartoon, manga and comics
Highbrow = appeared in animé, cartoon, manga and comics
Horri-Bull = appeared in comics
Hosehead = appeared in comics
Minerva = appeared in animé and manga
Mindwipe = appeared in animé, cartoon, manga and comics
Nightbeat = appeared in comics
Scorponok = appeared in animé, cartoon, manga and comics
Siren = appeared in comics
Skullcruncher = appeared in animé, cartoon, manga and comics
Snapdragon = appeared in animé, cartoon, manga and comics
Squeezeplay = appeared in comics
Weirdwolf = appeared in animé, cartoon, manga and comics
Wilder = appeared in animé and manga

Headmaster Warriors
Kirk = appeared in animé and manga
Loafer = appeared in animé and manga
Lioné = appeared in animé and manga
Rodney = appeared in animé and manga
Shuffler = appeared in animé and manga
Trizer = appeared in animé and manga

*Blurr, Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime, Kup, Cyclonus and Scourge appeared in the animé but never as Targetmasters.
**Arcee appeared as a Headmaster (binary bonded to Daniel Witwicky) in the cartoon only. Sunstreaker appeared as a Headmaster (binary bonded to Hunter O'Nion) in the IDW comics only. No official toys of either of these Headmasters have been made.
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References
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Targetmaster
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Headmaster_(technology)
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Headmaster_Warrior

[canofwhoopass_87]

Exactly the answer I needed! Thanks gok.

[canofwhoopass_87]

Is there a reason why springer never appeared in the season 4 US tv animated series? I would've liked to get my hands on a tm springer Anything to do with his voice actor or was the character just omitted completely for no particular reason?

[Sky Shadow]

Is there a reason why springer never appeared in the season 4 US tv animated series? I would've liked to get my hands on a tm springer Anything to do with his voice actor or was the character just omitted completely for no particular reason?

It was nothing to do with Neil Ross, who arguably voiced more characters in The Rebirth than he did in the rest of his Transformers career (Sixshot, Pointblank, Crosshairs, Fracas, Monzo. Bonecrusher and Hook were in it too, but I can't remember if they spoke). I believe Springer even disappeared before The Rebirth - he wasn't around for the last couple of episodes of Season Three either. Presumably, with a zillion Season 4 characters to introduce, there was no need for unnecessary earlier Transformers other than the ones who became Target/Headmasters and the ones who served the plot. Also, he would have complicated and gotten in the way of Arcee and Daniel's love story. Plus, the cartoon never really needed a reason for characters randomly appearing and disappearing - continuity's not exactly its strong point:



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