Transformers Animated Se3Ep12 "Endgame Part Two" discussion

[Golden Phoenix]

When did Wreck-gar die?

Wreck-Gar was brought to life with an Allspark fragment. Assuming that the fragments keeps him alive and that Prowl took it at the end then he would be dead much like Starscream

[GoktimusPrime]

I assumed that since Starscream was a sentient being before the allspark shard had effect, it was the shard that kept him alive. No shard=no life. The others (Wreck gar, dinbots etc) weren't attached to a shard, they had already been imbued with enough power so taking of shards had no effect

I'd assumed that he was living in a blasphemous state of undeath, much like G1 Starscream did for a short while after the Underbase Saga - although Animated Zombie Starscream still retained Starscream's will and persona, unlike G1 Zombie Starscream. If so, then perhaps that could exclude other TFs like Wreck Gar etc. who were given life by AllSpark fragments, as opposed to Zombie Starscream who was granted undeath instead.

How was Starscream able to control the Lugnut Supremes and why did they continue to operate after his death? When did he have time to make the modifications to them and how would he physically have achieved it?

My only real nitpick was how did Starscream implant the self destruct mechanism, and how were teh sentinels still being controlled by Screamers will rather than turn over command to Omega when Arcee rebooted him?

I'd say that the Starscream Supremes were operating on some kind of "trojan horse/virus" that Starscream had implanted along with those bombs in an act of delayed sabotage to be activated in the event that Lugnut should lose control of the Supreme clones. I must agree about the time thing though... installing megatonne nuclear warheads wouldn't happen overnight (and where the hell did he get them from?) -- again, more material for comic writers to exploit for an Animated "Expanded Universe" series. C'mon Ryall!

[Paulbot]

I'm glad that they didnt because now I truly feel that they can continue with Animated, perhaps with Prime taking the role of Magnus while Ultra heals. Have the focus shift to a galactic span, perhaps the Autobots cleaning up the remnants of the Decepticon Army?

Ugh no thanks, that sounds too much like series three of G1 to me I prefer to see TFs on Earth

[Kyle]

Finally, a definitive ending to a series.

Best TF series ever.

+ 1.

[kup]

Finally, a definitive ending to a series.

Best TF series ever.

It actually left just as many loose ends as the Beast Wars ending only that this episode was less exciting..

IMO It was a good episode but it pales to the earlier episodes of the third season such as the premiere and it had an 'OMG! We have to end everything now!' kind of rushed feel to it.

Very good given the circumstances but hardly a classic episode even by Animated's standards as there has been better in this series.

[GoktimusPrime]

IMHO I still think Beast Wars is the best Transformers television series ever. While both series had rushed endings, Animated's second season wasn't as jaw-droppingly need-to-change-your-underwearily (and Emmy Award winningly) awesome as Beast Wars S2. And Season 1 of Beast Wars is still mostly enjoyable ('cept The Low Road, but everyone else likes it!) whereas remembering Animated Season 1 makes me wanna cry. As far as all TF series are concerned, I still hold Marvel Comics G1/G2 as the best ever (Furman FTW!).

Just my opinion.