POLL: Skids, Mudflap. Racist?

[Gutsman Heavy]

I'm all for having Autobots that aren't all squeaky clean. Even if they are homophobic wiggers. Makes 'em more real as characters IMO.

Even if they are stupid.

[SofaMan]

I'd argue that Bay puts women and gays in the same moral sphere - whether the Twins are implicitly calling Leo gay, or calling him a woman, it is clear that either of those things is not something you would want to be in BayWorld.

Gay = Bad
Woman = Bad
Black = marginally less bad than gays or women (since they are still all men in this movie), but still largely only useful for wisecracking.

[SofaMan]

I'm all for having Autobots that aren't all squeaky clean. Even if they are homophobic wiggers. Makes 'em more real as characters IMO.

Even if they are stupid.

Which wouldn't even bother me so much if there was one other character in the movie who calls them out on their bulls**t. But every other character just lets it slide, like it's a perfectly normal and acceptable way to treat people.

It was something like the joy I experienced when Judi Dench started playing M in the Bond movies. First time out, she basically calls Bond out for being arrogant, sexist, sociopathic and misogynistic. It was gold, and long overdue.

[Seraphim Prime]

Black = marginally less bad than gays or women (since they are still all men in this movie), but still largely only useful for wisecracking.

Or bringing the rain.


Also agree with what you say of Judi Dench's M. Perhaps if Orci and the other one didn't have to join the writers strike they could have added Prime saying something about Ratchet needing to fix their vocal emitters as well as Bumblebee's.

[langzixinxin]

I don't know if they are, but it doesn't matter. I just don't like them, either their figure in movie or toy, robo mode or car mode, talking or behaving, none of the any aspects I like.


My opinion, they should not have been in movie at all. And they talked too much. And their faces are just ugly.

I don't even want the toy for free.

[kup]

Early on production, Orci pitched in a fan made suggestion to Bay of having Sunstreaker & Sideswipe vs Runamuck & Runabout in a car chase battle.

It was turned down in favor of the retard twins - Bay was born to direct Transformers.

[Starscream212]

Damn that would have been awsome a huge 4 car chase battle scene

[5FDP]

Within the Transformers 07 movie special features DVD disc, Michael Bay did say no more car chase scenes for a while (after filming the Bonecrusher vs. Optimus highway chase) which would have possibly ruled this out for ROTF.

[Robzy]

Within the Transformers 07 movie special features DVD disc, Michael Bay did say no more car chase scenes for a while

I'm glad he did... he doesn't shoot car chases very well IMO!

[Gutsman Heavy]

I'm glad he did... he doesn't shoot car chases very well IMO!

in Bays defence he doesn't shoot anything well. Except chicks bent over.