POLL: Skids, Mudflap. Racist?

[Vector Sigma 13]

TF:RotF is not the most racist movie ever made, nor is it the most sexist, nor the most violent. It does have identifiable elements of all of these things, and it behooves us all to at least be aware of them, as their effect on people's perception of others (in this case, minorities and women) is insidious and difficult to combat, particularly when the people propogating such stereotyping might be themselves unaware they are doing it. Particularly if they are doing it in an easily-dismissable way through robots, or a cartoon bunny rabbit.

Well put Sofaman.

[Vector Sigma 13]

Everyone I have spoken to through they were rednecks.

In any event, how someone feels is their own decision, not someone else's doing. The US have been so wound up in blaming everyone else for everything, they they have forgotten that feelings are personal and are decisions made by the feeler. People choose to be offended, pure and simple.

Sadly, this PC mentality, like much of the US's worst traits, has made its way here.

HEY! Im a Redneck and i have feelings too....


Anyway im of to milk the cows and walk around with a big hat and straw in my mouth.

[1AZRAEL1]

The key point is not that stereotypes are used, but how they are used.

For example, he whole point about The Simpsons is everyone is a stereotype, and all are portrayed as being equally flawed. No race, profession or subculture is singled out for special derision. By being egalitarian about it, their claim to be mocking stereotypes (rather than buying into them) carries more weight.

Skids and Mudflap do not, in my view, fall into this category.

So because I laughed at them, does that make me racist? Does it make everyone else who laughed at it racist?

I still cant see how they are used in a racist way.

Another good example I could use would be the characters that Sacha Baron Cohen used. I'll stick with Ali G to prove my point.

I'm sure it offended people, but its not meant to be in offence. Its comedy. Its meant to be taken in jest, not serious.

[Deceptic_Optic]

So because I laughed at them, does that make me racist? Does it make everyone else who laughed at it racist?

I still cant see how they are used in a racist way.

Another good example I could use would be the characters that Sacha Baron Cohen used. I'll stick with Ali G to prove my point.

I'm sure it offended people, but its not meant to be in offence. Its comedy. Its meant to be taken in jest, not serious.

i think we know this buy now that everyone finds something racist in all american movies specially with black do0odes. no black do0ode they would say its racist, there is a black do0o0de its still considered racist you just cant win.

[1AZRAEL1]

i think we know this buy now that everyone finds something racist in all american movies specially with black do0odes. no black do0ode they would say its racist, there is a black do0o0de its still considered racist you just cant win.

Very true.

Someone will always find something offensive, whether it be race, religion, politics, music, etc.

I think what needs to happen is just people sit back and go, "It's just a movie" and enjoy it for that.

[Deceptic_Optic]

Very true.

Someone will always find something offensive, whether it be race, religion, politics, music, etc.

I think what needs to happen is just people sit back and go, "It's just a movie" and enjoy it for that.

yeah man its just a movie! ... go decepticons! *lol... that was sooo random*

[enforcer888]

If anything I thought they were mocking the white rapper 'urban' stereotype. Middle class kids who think the street is cool.

[Gutsman Heavy]

When I saw the twins I though of this:



NOT this:

[valkyrie_76]

Ahhhh Eminem...........I blame you (and maybe Areosmith with DMC doing 'Walk this Way')

Sometimes I think people see into things a little too much, like hearing the devil when you play an LP backwards, but thats just me.

[roller]

"Swanee how i love ya how i love ya"