TFs Q/C problems archive (already damaged in the packaging)

[roller]

my Encore Jazz has crappy face paint apps

[iceburn]

ohoh..now its Takara's paintjob problems...

[edit]
sorry albie..i didn't check that it's unpainted too
anyway if it was unpainted...i wouldn't have known.
left most of my toys MISB

[Golden Phoenix]

Wow. That is a horrible streak. Remind me never to order Takara stuff from you. lol
I only own 5 Takara products, and I have been fine with them. I think Takara has some of the same issues as Hasbro, just less common.

[FFN]

I think Takara has some of the same issues as Hasbro, just less common.

The reason being Hasbro makes and sells far more Transformers products than Tomy does (or Takara ever did).

Because we're all western fans, we usually buy locally available Hasbro products more than we do TakaraTomy stuff, so yes, we'll see far more QC problems from Hasbro due to the sheer of amount of product available in our hands and on shelves. Also, people tend to be harsher on Hasbro than they are with TakaraTomy (or any Japanese toy company), in my experience.



The biggest QC issue I ever had with a Takara product was Galaxy Force Soundwave - they bolted the big hinge that connected his bod halves together crookedly, so he couldn't transform into vehicle mode properly.

[GoktimusPrime]

That's not necessarily true. I was primarily collecting Takara TFs when I was living in Japan and I was consistently amazed and in awe with the quality of the products I got. So for me at least it's not a "relative perspective" issue.

TakaraTOMY do make mistakes, noone's denying that... but I find that they are less common and are generally more consistent in improving on mistakes and flubs compared to Hasbro. And IMO TakaraTOMY are more attentive in their effort too compared to Hasbro. The lack of chrome or any distinctive colouring on Universe/Classics Prowl's missiles? That's not poor QC, that's just a poor effort (the paint apps on his doors on the other hand is poor QC) - JMO.

[Jaxius._]

FOr those who have gotten the $20 jetfire the chrome on the handgun has rubbed off a bit where the rubber band keeps it on.

[drifand]

Opened a perfect mp 11t box to find rudder point broken and nowhere to be found.

No chance for a simple glue it back.

Really hope I am not a regular of this thread.

[kup]

As mentioned before, I have also noticed an increase in QC issues from Takara Tomy products.

However Hasbro suffers mainly from being cheap bastards and cutting in production costs so a lot of their bad QC is mainly due to cheap paints that rub off, thin plastic that stresses or don't encase ball joints properly and other related troubles.

Hasbro also has a large degree of 'standard' bad QC similar to Takara Tomy in the sense of the odd mispainted figures and so on but I guess both companies will never get rid of such issues as long as they outsource all of their manufacturing to third party factories where is impossible to ensure the quality of every figure.

Personally I am still going for henkei as the possibility of bad QC is present in both companies but at least I know that with Takara Tomy, I will not be given a cheaply painted figure where the paint is more likely to end up in my hands after the first transformation.

Takara Tomy's troubles are with the odd figure (although this 'odd' figure is sadly increasing in occurance) while Hasbro's bad QC is clearly systematic for cost cutting.

[FFN]

BLAH BLAH BLAH

There's a reason why Hasbro is rich,

Mr Burns: RICH AS NAZIS!*

*(This is in reference to the episode of the Simpsons where Mr Burns says that very line. I don't mean to suggest that Hasbro are Nazis. I am also clearly taking the piss here.)

[jaydisc]

Can anyone state with certainty whether or not Hasbro and Takara use the same manufacturers or facilities? Obviously, they request different paint jobs, but does anyone have any decently sourced information as to how or where their processes differ?