Bruticus mold issues

[blackoptimus]

I wouldn't say that. I paid roughly the same price just for Computron's gestalt parts and rifle alone. Considering that for about the same price I can get:
+ All of Bruticus' gestalt parts and weapon
+ All of the Combaticons' individual weapons
+ All the Combaticons
...I think it's a reasonably good deal.

I'm not a fan of the show colours, but I already have the G1 Combaticons, so I'm not that bothered by it. I'm getting this set in order to:
1/ Get all the accessories that I would otherwise pay _more_ for
2/ Support TakaraTOMY and encourage them to do more gestalt reissues. If this toy shelf warms it will discourage TakaraTOMY from considering future gestalt reissues.


I paid 3500JPY ($45) for mine.

Don't you own a Bruticus complete? Also they may possible make encore King Poseidon, which would be pretty sweat!

[MV75]

I find it absurd that we should be supporting TakTom by buying this reissue in the slim hope that TakTom will reissue other gestalts. I dont have a problem with them reissuing Bruticus even though I have no interest in it, but to ask someone to buy it just to show we want more special teams is really a bit rich. And considering the amount of times this has been reissued, it would not surprise me if this shelf warmed (even though I'd love to see it succeed for the sake of rest of the fandom).

Nice selfish contridiction you have going on there.

Anyway, mine is on the way because I don't have a g1 bruticus, nor do I have any of the other combiners aside from menasor, (which I would get again if it was encored), so yes, I want a devastator reissue more than anyone else here.

[Defcon]

Bruticus is not one of my favorite combiners. All the others appeal to me, so if others are released in the future I'll definitely consider them. I have several combiners already but I would consider getting encore releases for the following reasons...

1. complete with all parts
2. minty fresh
3. nice packaging included
4. probably cheaper and more reliable than chasing on ebay

[GoktimusPrime]

I find it absurd that we should be supporting TakTom by buying this reissue in the slim hope that TakTom will reissue other gestalts. I dont have a problem with them reissuing Bruticus even though I have no interest in it, but to ask someone to buy it just to show we want more special teams is really a bit rich.

Who's asking? There's a fine difference between saying, "I'm getting this set because..." vs "We should all get this set because..." - my statement was the former, which is nothing more than stating my own personal reasons and not necessarily prescribing others to do likewise.

In all honesty supporting TakaraTOMY to reissue more gestalts is my tertiary reason for wanting this reissue. My primary reason is for the Bruticus gestalt parts and my secondary reason is for the Combaticons' individual weapons - all of which would easily cost me much more to purchase if I hunted them down otherwise. As I said before, collecting the gestalt parts for Computron (with NO individual accessories for the Technobots) alone cost me about $100 - so for around the same price I might as well just buy a reissue of the entire gift set! (^_^)

Don't you own a Bruticus complete?

Not really. I have all the G1 Combaticons, but I don't have their gestalt parts nor all their accessories. I've formed Bruticus using gestalt parts from my RiD Ruination.

Also they may possible make encore King Poseidon, which would be pretty sweat!

Sounds salty. I'd love to see a King Poseidon reissue as I have all the Seacons, but again, don't have all the gestalt parts (nor accessories).

Bruticus is not one of my favorite combiners. All the others appeal to me

I think one reason why Bruticus is so popular is because among the 1986 Scramble gestalts, both he and Defensor were seen as cool because their limb-formers were all distinctly different and unique looking. The problem with the Stunticons and especially the Aerialbots is that the limb robots kinda look the same. Breakdown and Dead End have the same transformation scheme, as do Slingshot, Air Raid, Fireflight and Skydive. In fact, the Aerialbots look so damn alike that when combined as Superion, G1 artists and animators often just drew and coloured all the limbs uniformly! When you see pics of Superion in the G1 comics and cartoon can you tell which arm or leg is which Aerialbot? Defensor and Bruticus were better because you could tell straight away which limb was say Vortex or Brawl, or Streetwise or Groove etc. There was clearly more effort put into the design and engineering of the Combaticons and Protectobots as opposed to the Aerialbots and some of the Stunticons.

[dirge]

There was clearly more effort put into the design and engineering of the Combaticons and Protectobots as opposed to the Aerialbots and some of the Stunticons.

Because there had to be, perhaps. It's hard to engineer a tank that transforms in the same way as a space shuttle.

This reissue seems to be low effort, since we know the mould exists - at least in its all-plastic form. It's the lowest risk combiner to test the market with, since the lower R&D cost keeps production costs to a minimum means TT and the stores are less likely to make a loss from this reissue.

As much as the metal versions may be appreciated by some fans, I guess TT wanted to keep the R&D costs of retooling the dies out of this at this stage.

[MV75]

I wonder how well this has sold so far. Does anyone know?

It's quite nice looking even in box. I wouldn't mind the seacons being next, as long as devastator comes eventually after.

[liegeprime]

Im just happy they still kept the line going ( Encore) as it really does help those of us who hasn't chanced upon cheaper parts for our originals, or are wanting more minty fresh looking figures.
As many here know, parts often cost more than the whole TF figure itself where G1 is concerned. So far though there's only been 3 encores Ive bought which are doubles of what I have mainly because, I just wanted a more minty fresh looking figure.
Im hoping they reissue Raiden and Liokaiser though as I dont have them yet heheh all other combiners Ive finally completed , even that ever so expensive little Sh*# Monstructor. But, if they ever do reissue Monstructor Id buy a set! So i can play with it, the original one is just too fragile (GPS) to be manhandled, sigh......

[Jhiaxus]

Because there had to be, perhaps. It's hard to engineer a tank that transforms in the same way as a space shuttle.

This reissue seems to be low effort, since we know the mould exists - at least in its all-plastic form. It's the lowest risk combiner to test the market with, since the lower R&D cost keeps production costs to a minimum means TT and the stores are less likely to make a loss from this reissue.

As much as the metal versions may be appreciated by some fans, I guess TT wanted to keep the R&D costs of retooling the dies out of this at this stage.

I think Dirge has hit the nail on the head here. The toolings for the metal versions would have been different to the toolings for the plastic versions. It's very probable that, after all this time, the moulds for the metal parts are lost, destroyed, damaged or otherwise inaccessible.

We know the Bruticus mould has been kept track of... it's not really the same thing as Predaking or other plastic-to-metal transition toys since this mould/tooling has been in use nearly constantly since it was made.

--Boltax
(I think it's interesting that it's kept the super weapons from the RiD version of the mould -- too bad they didn't include the G2 launcher too.)

[kup]

I wonder how well this has sold so far. Does anyone know?

It's quite nice looking even in box. I wouldn't mind the seacons being next, as long as devastator comes eventually after.

Online it seems to be selling fairly well, its sold out on pre-orders alone in a few places such as HLJ.

Retail however could be a different story. Many encores that have sold reasonably well online seem to be a bit of shelf warmers in Japan.

[k.wong23]

Online it seems to be selling fairly well, its sold out on pre-orders alone in a few places such as HLJ.

Retail however could be a different story. Many encores that have sold reasonably well online seem to be a bit of shelf warmers in Japan.

Wait till im in Japan in november and ill nab them all for peanuts