GI Joe ROC movie Discussion Thread !! SPOILERS!!

[rateeg]

that explains why he was in it. thanks

[Lord_Zed]

I'm pretty sure Lt Stone was the leader of GI Joe Extreme, the short lived 90's larger figure Joe spin-off, so the Sgt Stone Brendan Fraiser cameo also appears to pay homage to the history of Gi Joe, even the parts that were a total failure.

[TheDirtyDigger]

Question: When Rex is in the bunker with Dr Mindbender and he's shown the test subject getting the nanomites...why is General Hawk the test subject?
I thought they were setting it up so that General Hawk would be a doppelganger.

Also disappointed that Baroness ended up being a good guy. So much better as an evil girl.

[Lint]

Question: When Rex is in the bunker with Dr Mindbender and he's shown the test subject getting the nanomites...why is General Hawk the test subject?

I have to admit, thinking back, the test subject did resemble Hawk somewhat, but it didn't click for me at the time. I thought it was some random.

I didn't mind the 'Baroness was brainwashed' plotline, except that she was rescued which means in the next movie she's either a good lass (boring), or Cobra regains control of her at the flick of a switch (lame), or she's not in it at all

It would have been better imo if the brainwashing truth was revealed but she remained under Cobra influence at the end of the film.

[kup]

Here what I wrote in the Don Murphy boards last week - I still stand by it as GI Joe was easier to digest and easier to come to a final opinion. ROTF left me confused as right after I saw it I felt it was good but by the next day as I begun to think about the movie, I realized that it was actually pretty crap - Good SFX and arguably good action but that's it.

I have seen GI Joe. I wouldn't call it a masterpiece of cinema but it is certainly better than ROTF with a simple but coherent plot and fun throughout without any killer bits (like testicles, dog humping, etc).

Overall the action could also be deemed as better choreographed than Transformers with the exception of the forest battle but the CGI effects were certainly inferior to TF2 but used to better effect.

My biggest gripe with the movie was the whole Baroness back story but it wasn't as killer as soft porn pretenders or pot brownies.

It is clear that the people behind the movie did do their research as it was filled with obvious and subtle tributes throughout.

This movie fits more as a 'dumb summer fun' than ROTF as it doesn't have as many tedious bits to endure.

[Lord_Zed]

I was reading various reviews today, and the mainstream critics are savaging the movie calling it lamer than ROTF, while online critics more closely assosciated with nerdom seem to be giving it ok reviews. IGN I think said it was somwhere between Transformers 1 and 2 which is about right by my count.

The funny thing is, unlike when the critics paid out ROTF citing things that also bugged me "to long" "to much caveman humour". Some of the things being paid out in GI Joe are things I enjoyed, like the addition of characters like Breaker etc, Storm Shadow/ Snake Eyes flashbacks, and the Destro proluge. Makes me think GI joe ROC was a beter fan movie than ROTF, cheesy as it was.

In any case the movie seems to have done fairly well on its opening weekend, pushing the odds of a sequel even higher. With a possible 3 franchises hitting the mark this year alone Paramount must be rubbing their hands with glee. Sequels ahoy!

I have to admit, thinking back, the test subject did resemble Hawk somewhat, but it didn't click for me at the time. I thought it was some random.

I didn't mind the 'Baroness was brainwashed' plotline, except that she was rescued which means in the next movie she's either a good lass (boring), or Cobra regains control of her at the flick of a switch (lame), or she's not in it at all

It would have been better imo if the brainwashing truth was revealed but she remained under Cobra influence at the end of the film.

Not a big fan of the Baroness background plot myself, however it is hardly un GI Joe as brainwashing was common to both the cartoon and comics. maybe she will go nuts because of it in the next film.

[bruticus]

I just watched it.
Truly awesome movie. I reckon its much much better than TF movie 2007 and ROTF...i know its a bold statement but i'm sure im not alone on this?
action packed all the way with a pretty good story line that is straight forward to follow.
i couldnt find any real faults. no boring bits, no ANNOYING bits!!!, no significant plot holes. Had a huge display of gadgets, vehicles and elite tech....great eye candy...comedy was tasteful.

flashbacks were a good treat too and great for non fans like my GF to get up to speed.
i didnt mind the baroness mind washing back-story drifting away from the cartoon/comics cos she was stunning in both good or evil...I'm sure they'll figure out a way to turn her evil again.

At least i can be proud to own 100+ gi joe figures and vehicles now without all the americana bashing...

cant wait for the blu-ray and the sequel!!!

[rateeg]

in my opinion, Rise of Cobra is better than ROTF. But not with TF1.
TF1 showed us some good action scenes, great special effects, perfect CG and mostly mikaela is hotter in that movie than ROTF.



bruticus - why americana bashing?

[bruticus]

bruticus - why americana bashing?

well for a time, US wasnt really popular with the rest of the world (yes even more unpopular than now) and i use to get a lot of crap from my friends cos GI-Joe was seen as a toyline that just boasts about how awesome US is....
fark, just look at all the US flag insignia everywhere or the theme "Gi-joe - a real american hero"....lol...

anyways, i reckon its safe to say i collect gi-joes again...

[Lord_Zed]

I don't think the Gi Joe movie is as good as Transformers 1, Transformers 1 managed to appeal to the mainstream and the fans and even the critics. Gi Joe will just appeal to fans and action buffs I think.

Regarding the americana bashing, I can see this sort of thing in the cartoon but as a comic fan I've always maintained that the comic gave a well rounded view of America flaws and all. While the Joes were pretty perfect there were plenty of corrupt generals, dodgy internal departments like the DOD and the CIA, and no shortage of American yuppies. The Joes were also frequently allied to less than reputable leaders of foreign governments just to help extend American interests. The cartoon was pure flag waving, but the comic was more about the values of a solider than that of Amercia.

Also as stated before, I'm more of a Cobra fan.