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    Question: When Rex is in the bunker with Dr Mindbender and he's shown the test subject getting the nanomites...why is General Hawk the test subject?
    I thought they were setting it up so that General Hawk would be a doppelganger.

    Also disappointed that Baroness ended up being a good guy. So much better as an evil girl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDirtyDigger View Post
    Question: When Rex is in the bunker with Dr Mindbender and he's shown the test subject getting the nanomites...why is General Hawk the test subject?
    I have to admit, thinking back, the test subject did resemble Hawk somewhat, but it didn't click for me at the time. I thought it was some random.

    I didn't mind the 'Baroness was brainwashed' plotline, except that she was rescued which means in the next movie she's either a good lass (boring), or Cobra regains control of her at the flick of a switch (lame), or she's not in it at all

    It would have been better imo if the brainwashing truth was revealed but she remained under Cobra influence at the end of the film.

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    I was reading various reviews today, and the mainstream critics are savaging the movie calling it lamer than ROTF, while online critics more closely assosciated with nerdom seem to be giving it ok reviews. IGN I think said it was somwhere between Transformers 1 and 2 which is about right by my count.

    The funny thing is, unlike when the critics paid out ROTF citing things that also bugged me "to long" "to much caveman humour". Some of the things being paid out in GI Joe are things I enjoyed, like the addition of characters like Breaker etc, Storm Shadow/ Snake Eyes flashbacks, and the Destro proluge. Makes me think GI joe ROC was a beter fan movie than ROTF, cheesy as it was.

    In any case the movie seems to have done fairly well on its opening weekend, pushing the odds of a sequel even higher. With a possible 3 franchises hitting the mark this year alone Paramount must be rubbing their hands with glee. Sequels ahoy!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lint View Post
    I have to admit, thinking back, the test subject did resemble Hawk somewhat, but it didn't click for me at the time. I thought it was some random.

    I didn't mind the 'Baroness was brainwashed' plotline, except that she was rescued which means in the next movie she's either a good lass (boring), or Cobra regains control of her at the flick of a switch (lame), or she's not in it at all

    It would have been better imo if the brainwashing truth was revealed but she remained under Cobra influence at the end of the film.
    Not a big fan of the Baroness background plot myself, however it is hardly un GI Joe as brainwashing was common to both the cartoon and comics. maybe she will go nuts because of it in the next film.

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    I just watched it.
    Truly awesome movie. I reckon its much much better than TF movie 2007 and ROTF...i know its a bold statement but i'm sure im not alone on this?
    action packed all the way with a pretty good story line that is straight forward to follow.
    i couldnt find any real faults. no boring bits, no ANNOYING bits!!!, no significant plot holes. Had a huge display of gadgets, vehicles and elite tech....great eye candy...comedy was tasteful.

    flashbacks were a good treat too and great for non fans like my GF to get up to speed.
    i didnt mind the baroness mind washing back-story drifting away from the cartoon/comics cos she was stunning in both good or evil...I'm sure they'll figure out a way to turn her evil again.

    At least i can be proud to own 100+ gi joe figures and vehicles now without all the americana bashing...

    cant wait for the blu-ray and the sequel!!!

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    in my opinion, Rise of Cobra is better than ROTF. But not with TF1.
    TF1 showed us some good action scenes, great special effects, perfect CG and mostly mikaela is hotter in that movie than ROTF.



    bruticus - why americana bashing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rateeg View Post
    bruticus - why americana bashing?
    well for a time, US wasnt really popular with the rest of the world (yes even more unpopular than now) and i use to get a lot of crap from my friends cos GI-Joe was seen as a toyline that just boasts about how awesome US is....
    fark, just look at all the US flag insignia everywhere or the theme "Gi-joe - a real american hero"....lol...

    anyways, i reckon its safe to say i collect gi-joes again...

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    I don't think the Gi Joe movie is as good as Transformers 1, Transformers 1 managed to appeal to the mainstream and the fans and even the critics. Gi Joe will just appeal to fans and action buffs I think.

    Regarding the americana bashing, I can see this sort of thing in the cartoon but as a comic fan I've always maintained that the comic gave a well rounded view of America flaws and all. While the Joes were pretty perfect there were plenty of corrupt generals, dodgy internal departments like the DOD and the CIA, and no shortage of American yuppies. The Joes were also frequently allied to less than reputable leaders of foreign governments just to help extend American interests. The cartoon was pure flag waving, but the comic was more about the values of a solider than that of Amercia.

    Also as stated before, I'm more of a Cobra fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruticus View Post
    I just watched it.
    I reckon its much much better than TF movie 2007 and ROTF...i know its a bold statement but i'm sure im not alone on this?
    You are not alone, and I don't find that to be a bold statement at all

    You can always be proud of your GIJoe collection, its not like you like them BECAUSE they're american right? I dont eat KFC because its from Kentucky.

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    Just wanna mention that I saw the movie last night and man talk about non-stop action! I felt I was at the edge of my seat for almost the entire show - no sluggish moment.. well yeah maybe one or two (coming off from the duke-baroness skit). But that was heavily overshadowed by the lots of fight scenes happening all simultaneously - so many movements but amazingly are still easy to follow - even missus and my oldy mates didn't mind it, unlike in ROTF.. The CGIs are not bad at all, I liked it. I'd be happy to watch it again and even right now I'm already sold for the DVD!

    Now, a couple of the many spots I missed if I may ask, what was that again Ripcord shouted out to eject himself from the night raven jet? And was there a Jinx cameo? I only remember her being the red ninja joe which I might've missed in the film.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheel-J View Post

    Now, a couple of the many spots I missed if I may ask, what was that again Ripcord shouted out to eject himself from the night raven jet? And was there a Jinx cameo? I only remember her being the red ninja joe which I might've missed in the film.
    When Duke and Ripcord are introduced to the Pitt, there is a scene where the stealth suits are being shown of and woman with short dark hair who appears to have asian features is seen. She is presumed to be Jinx as this is similar to what Jinx looked like in the comic and cartoon without her mask.

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