Yeah... I'm not sure that the Japanese language is powerful enough to make Cybertron or Energon even REMOTELY worthwhile.
I will totally agree that the dub REALLY hurt Armada. It was a sloppy, bored, dub... with no feeling, or sense of fun. No one wanted to be there and no one cared about the quality of the product they turned out. Boy does it show, too -- it's one of the worst dubs I've ever been exposed to.
Cybertron's dub is a LOT more lively, and tries to bring to life some horrible episodes. But there's only so much you can do with an episode where Optimus Prime transforms (Stock footage), then Leobreaker transforms (stock footage) then they merge (stock footage), then they attack Megatron (stock footage attack powers) then they realise they aren't winning, so they UNMERGE (stock footage), then REMERGE WITH LEOBREAKER AS PRIME'S OTHER ARM (the same merge stock footage from before, but FLIPPED).
Terrible. Cybertron was so FILLED with stock footage they barely bothered to animate anything else -- certainly not anyone's faces.
--Jhiaxus.
(The Japanese should never be allowed to create the TF cartoons -- because they're so quantity-over-quality focussed. They don't care whether the individual episodes are worthwhile, as long as there's enough of them to fill the timeslot.)