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Thread: Goki's Rantage Engine: Alice In Wonderland

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    I found that Alice also proved to be an interesting plot device that potentially threatened the relationship between Sam and Mikaela. As someone who avoided spoilers before seeing the movie and had no idea what Alice was, I honestly thought she was some girl trying to shoehorn in on Sam in order to strain his relationship with Mikaela. At first I thought that this would be a really lame distraction away from the central tale of the Transformers, but then she turned out to be a Decepticon and suddenly everything made sense and she changed from lame to cool in my book. She also allowed for a comedic moment in the library scene with the argument between Sam and Mikaela (the "time out," diesel-flavoured kiss etc.).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky Shadow View Post
    If someone in power says they're Pretender Beasts then yes, that's what they are. Seriously, it's not like what happens in the movie universe is the same as what happened in G1. In Revenge Of The Fallen, a Seeker is a member of a group of individuals including Jetfire and Ransack who seek the Allspark. The Matrix Of Leadership is a key to a thingy that destroys stars. A Pretender's robot form may or may not have a vehicle mode. And a plot is... well... nobody knows what a plot is.
    That's coz there isnt one to be rocognized to begin with, its one big chase after another across continents.....
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    I wish they'd explained Alice in the movie, or at least had her have some impact on the plot beyond getting Sam out of college. The implications of Transformers which can assume human form are huge, especially in terms of the Decepticons hunt for Sam.

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    I thought it was pretty clever to adapt the form of an "attractive" (cough) human female in an attempt to seduce "Ladiesman217." Intimate situations require people to completely lower their guard and are at their most vulnerable, so tactically it makes sense and shows that the Decepticons do have a good understanding of human psychology.

    But yeah, there's a lot more potential for these humanformers; they could infiltrate various aspects of society including positions of power! Imagine if Obama turned out to be a Decepticon - Change You Can't Believe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime View Post
    Imagine if Obama turned out to be a Decepticon - Change You Can't Believe!
    Yeah, or imagine how different things would be if one of Australia's Prime Ministers was a Decepticon!

    <imagining>

    Hmm... okay, not that different at all, really.

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    I'm disappointed in her presentation, not for pedantic fanboy reasons... but because executing her as a more traditional Pretender would have been awesome. The fold-around-skin thing just... didn't impress me.

    If she'd unzipped her skin and it had fallen in a heap on the floor? That would have been AWESOME, much more Pretendery, and much more horrifying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky Shadow View Post
    Yeah, or imagine how different things would be if one of Australia's Prime Ministers was a Decepticon!

    <imagining>

    Hmm... okay, not that different at all, really.
    Does this remind anyone else of that Simpson's episode where Kang and Kodos swap places with Bill Clinton and Al Gore to steal win the US election?
    "Go ahead, throw your vote away! Ha ha ha..."

    The sad bit is our recent mob is/has been so boring I could get behind that - especially if they looked like Alice. I'm talking either mode version too - if it was the 'alt-mode' version she'd be totally hot (Isabell Lucas ain't my thing personally but by Parliamentary standards she'd be top of the bunch for sure); if she was in robot mode we could still have 'Hottest Prime Minister' contests with New Zealand and it'd be even funnier when we won.
    Sorry to the Kiwis here, we love your work but your PM looks like an orc. I'm sure she has a great personality though...

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    Uh.... Odie, is this the orc to which you refer?



    John Key, New Zealand Prime Minister, New Zealand National Party.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime View Post
    Imagine if Obama turned out to be a Decepticon - Change You Can't Believe!
    Who says he's not? either that or he's a Skrull or Zartan.

    Maybe all three.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirge View Post
    Uh.... Odie, is this the orc to which you refer?

    John Key, New Zealand Prime Minister, New Zealand National Party.
    What?! Clarkie's gone? Boy is my NZ political awareness out of date...

    At least we'd still win the beauty contest with PM Alice (the bikini round would seal it I'm sure), and it'd still be funny.

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