Thanks for the clarification!Originally Posted by Vector Prime
Also, there has been other eBay TFs that are listed as "new, comes loose without packaging".
I bought a loose Universe Ratbat (purple repainted Cybertron Sideways/Galaxy Force Noisemaze) with that description for. It was sent from Hong Kong.
The figure was of quality plastic (much better than the crappy MISB Universe Blaster I got from Toys R Us), and with some limbs held with clear rubberband-thingys that you would normally expect to find on any new MISB transformer. It did arrive in alt. mode; this was strange because the Hasbro Target exclusive Springer vs. Rabat set has both figures displayed in robot mode within the box.
When I transformed it for my own display, it definitely has the distinct feeling of a transformer that has never been transformed before, i.e. unusually crisp joints.
Oh yeah, I got it for about $20 (nostalgic 1990's price for a deluxe).
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