The non-electronic gaming thread

[Lord_Zed]

Tau? If you wanna play a bunch of Anime wannabees then you should play Infinity damnit, Cooler, cheaper, better.

Also (aside from mechanised forces) Tau have been somewhat outmoded due to last years new edition of 40k, as usual they didn't think to far ahead.

So many electronic gamers are either really bad losers and bad winners too (as parodied by the Headmaster in TF Animated).

You get those types in tabletop gaming to, espescially in the tournament scene, where people can sometimes take things to seriously.

[1AZRAEL1]

You get those types in tabletop gaming to, espescially in the tournament scene, where people can sometimes take things to seriously.

I seen that happen once before, some dude went absolutely crazy after he lost his best character. He was jumping around like a maniac (kinda amusing to watch though )

[GoktimusPrime]

Yeah true. I used to play with a Star Wars minis player who would throw his miniatures, dice etc. as far as he could and walk away when he was losing. He was reprimanded several times by the store owner about doing that, so he'd wait until after the match was over and he'd lost before having a tanty. I think he got warned a few more times about that too, so afterwards we'd play and you just see the anger seething in his eyes with this sour lemon look on his face. Soon afterwards I think he quit playing SWM (or at least, playing in the same group or tournaments that I would frequent).

I guess tournaments bring out the worst in people because people pay entry fees to pay, and of course with prizes to be won there's more at stake. But the thing with SWM tournaments is that everyone wins a prize, it's just that higher ranking players get first dibs so they'll take the rarer pieces. But for me I'm just happy to play. I think it's sad when people play specifically to win rather than for the fun of the game.

[Lord_Zed]

I guess tournaments bring out the worst in people because people pay entry fees to pay, and of course with prizes to be won there's more at stake. But the thing with SWM tournaments is that everyone wins a prize, it's just that higher ranking players get first dibs so they'll take the rarer pieces. But for me I'm just happy to play. I think it's sad when people play specifically to win rather than for the fun of the game.

Pretty much, things like prizes and game status seem to mean a lot to these people, same with video games too I guess. A serious tournament player once warned his buddies not to come to our club becuase we don't play seriously enough (and have fun?), we were like WTF?

What I really can't understand is why people want to own noobies though, it seems counter productive. When I play someone new I try to explain things and hold back, so the player has a good experience and comes back for more games. I do admit to failing at this at times, due to trying out some new weapon or devious plan, but hey I don't set out to bury them in the dirt from the word go.

The above is my biggest turn of with online gaming to.

[GoktimusPrime]

What I really can't understand is why people want to own noobies though, it seems counter productive. When I play someone new I try to explain things and hold back, so the player has a good experience and comes back for more games. I do admit to failing at this at times, due to trying out some new weapon or devious plan, but hey I don't set out to bury them in the dirt from the word go.

The above is my biggest turn of with online gaming to.

...yeah, that's really stupid. And again, I find this occurs more frequently with electronic gaming (but it does occur too frequently with table top games too). What I like to do with noobs is to create some kind of handicap. So for example in SWMs, I might let my opponent play with really powerful characters like Jedi knights, Sith Lords, Mandalorians, bounty hunters etc., and I'll field a team of weaker characters, like say Imperial Stormtroopers. This still allows me to play as I usually do, but with a relatively weaker team. And even then, I still go easy on them... I don't do slack things like using an astromech droid to override a door and lock my opponents' team in a room or use techniques to improve my Stormtroopers' attack rating (e.g.: stacking commander effects, combining fire etc.). I might do it once or twice just to show them how it's done (cos let's face it, once someone uses a good tactic on you you'll remember to use it back!), but I'm not gonna keep hammering them with it... unless they keep making the same silly mistake (like walking across my adjacent squares (-_-))... but that's more like I'm teaching them a lesson rather than just trying to show off with "total pwnage." Sometimes if a noob is really struggling I'll even break the rules and let them field a team with more squad points! (e.g.: 150 pt squad vs. my 100 pt squad)

I like it when a new player gets good and they start pwning you! (cos then you're reading to take your gloves off and have a good game). So if you want a new player to give you a challenge then you got to guide or coach them to get up to your level (even surpass you!)

I think every player needs to remember that we were _all_ noobs at some stage. (^_^)

[Lord_Zed]

I like it when a new player gets good and they start pwning you! (cos then you're reading to take your gloves off and have a good game). So if you want a new player to give you a challenge then you got to guide or coach them to get up to your level (even surpass you!)

I think every player needs to remember that we were _all_ noobs at some stage. (^_^)

Right again, though I have been playing Infinity since 2007 It's taken some time to master the game, in particular among games it has a steep learning curve, but once you get past that things really open up. The best games are the ones that swing from side to side like a seesaw, and when it comes to gaming a hard fought last second defeat is better than an overwhellming one sided victory any day in my book. Besides they make the best stories no one wants to hear in detail how so and so's superior army crushed their foe with superior numbers (spamming) or by the book strategy, they want to hear stories of insane heroics, of battles turning around due to people taking 1 in a 100 chances, or how glorious victory was denied to you due to the cowardice of your soliders (to name a few examples).


In any case the local level of competition is now at the point where there's no need to hold back. Last Sunday I got owned in my first game, so I deployed one of the most deadly weapons of the United Nations of Pan Oceana the Cutter. A 5 meter tall heavy machine gun wielding robot, that can cloak. it's a terrifying warmachine for a noob to face, it had long been hiding in the cupboard while the more friendly non cloacking robot the Armoured Cavalry took its spot, but no more the Cutter has returned. Of course those with a little experience know it's limitations, but even then its damn scary.

Against those of moderate skill levels I like to use experimental forces, things I haven't tested before, unfortunately this can go pear shaped if the test proves to effective, but its usualy a good way to try something new.

Mind you there is one guy I know who is absolutely of the scale in terms of skill, gung ho play style, and sheer luck. He's a bit on the other end of the extreme. Although he doesn't own noobs for kicks, he always seems to outmanouvere you, it can be disheartaning to play him sometimes, particularly for new people. he is getting better though.

[GoktimusPrime]

The funniest game I had was where I was playing a Republic squad being led by Mace Windu, and I was defeated by a measly squad of effing Battle Droids! It was all down to the roll of the dice... I kept on getting nothing but crap rolls and my opponent kept on rolling high numbers (with lots of natural 20s which score critical damage*)! Aaargh! My opponent conceded that it was very much a Steve Bradbury style victory.

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*which droids are immune to, not that I rolled _any_ 2 digit numbers during that skirmish. (-_-)

[Sam]

Just wondering if anyone has played a board game called "Last Night on Earth"?

It's a zombie-survival themed board game. Description found here:
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/29368

Looks interesting, but haven't played it myself.

[GoktimusPrime]

Never played it, but looks interesting. I once played a board game set in a haunted house... it was actually pretty freaky!!

[Bartrim]

Tau? If you wanna play a bunch of Anime wannabees then you should play Infinity damnit, Cooler, cheaper, better.

Also (aside from mechanised forces) Tau have been somewhat outmoded due to last years new edition of 40k, as usual they didn't think to far ahead.

Oh okay I got the impression they were pretty cool as you could jump in, shoot then jump out in the assault phase... plus I though they looked cool.