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    Quote Originally Posted by heroic_decepticon View Post
    It's not about the number either, whether its 100 or 1000. Not really bothered in the least about that.
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    Personally, I'd attach more significance to quality than the number.
    I couldn't agree with you more on both points.

    People collect for many different reasons and no two people are the same. If I wanted to have over 1000 figures, I would. If I wanted to only collect every variant out there, I could do that too. The only restraining factor is budgetary constraints but they can generally be overcome if you want something bad enough.

    For me, the satisfaction is collecting the toys and characters that I am interested in rather than having a thousand 'junkers' just for the sake of saying that I have a whopping collection count. At the end of the day, do what pleases you and nobody else.

    My comments are not intended to disrespect any individual or made in direct relation to the collecting habits of any board member past, present, or future
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5FDP
    My comments are not intended to disrespect any individual or made in direct relation to the collecting habits of any board member past, present, or future
    The same goes for my comments too We are all passionate and dedicated to this hobby/fandom in different ways, which is what makes us all fans (remembering that "fan" is an abbreviation for "fanatic" ).

    Quote Originally Posted by heroic_decepticon
    Dedication arguably isn't. Dedication to a self-serving cause (which collecting is), isn't priceless. It's not priceless because it is a value that you ascribe to an action that you can resolve to take, for-your-self.
    By price I meant monetary value. There certainly is value in dedication, without which such a venture would be arguably meaningless. And that would go for both self serving and non-self serving ventures, e.g. dedicating yourself to a life of charity or service is something that would be valued by yourself and/or others (e.g.: medals for military service). What I meant was I don't think you can place a defined dollar-value on something like your passion, dedication and love for Transformers.

    You could place a monetary value on all the toys and merchandise etc. that I've purchased, but I don't know if you could place such a value on my love for Transformers. All the endless hours that I've played with my toys, watched videos and DVDs and read comic books over and over again, drawing fan art and interacting with other fans (e.g. fan meets, conventions, cosplay etc.).

    And if there could be a monetary price for my 25 years' of dedicated passion and love to Transformers... how much do you think I could sell it for on eBay?

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    So... how many years have you been a fan for Goki?

    Sorry, I just couldn't help myself
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5FDP
    So... how many years have you been a fan for Goki?

    Sorry, I just couldn't help myself
    Well played sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heroic_decepticon View Post
    The memories are priceless. The experience(s) are priceless.
    I agree completely. As many Ozformers know, I buy and sell bits of my toy collection all the time. One doesn't lose those memories or experiences by selling the toys - they still exist. It's just that once I've held a Transformer in my hands, played with it, transformed it back and forth, that's all I truly need. I achieve nothing by amassing a massive toy collection - it takes up space, reminds me how much money I've spent and just depresses me. There are my favourites and weird recolours that I doubt I'll ever part with, but my Transformers collection's still well and truly hundreds of toys bigger than I'd like it to be.

    On the other hand, I know I'd never sell my Marvel UK and US comics. So each to his or her own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky Shadow View Post
    On the other hand, I know I'd never sell my Marvel UK and US comics. So each to his or her own.
    Everyone has a price... what's yours?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5FDP View Post
    Everyone has a price... what's yours?
    Hmm... I have a few doubles (I know I have spares of some of the Target: 2006 issues), but the rest I wouldn't part with. Plus they're so pre-loved and crumpled and have been read so many times that I doubt anyone else would want them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heroic_decepticon
    The memories are priceless. The experience(s) are priceless.
    Yes, this is along the lines of what I mean when I say that things like dedication and passion etc. are priceless. Essentially sentimental/emotional value.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sky Shadow
    I agree completely. As many Ozformers know, I buy and sell bits of my toy collection all the time. One doesn't lose those memories or experiences by selling the toys - they still exist. It's just that once I've held a Transformer in my hands, played with it, transformed it back and forth, that's all I truly need. I achieve nothing by amassing a massive toy collection - it takes up space, reminds me how much money I've spent and just depresses me. There are my favourites and weird recolours that I doubt I'll ever part with, but my Transformers collection's still well and truly hundreds of toys bigger than I'd like it to be.

    On the other hand, I know I'd never sell my Marvel UK and US comics. So each to his or her own.
    For me, and I can't speak for anyone else, my Transformers are like the toys in Toy Story... they're not just things I've played with since I was a kid. We've been through a lot together and they feel like friends. And I still do occasionally play with even my oldest toys. For me, the idea of parting with one of my old toys is like abandoning an old friend, like the way Jessie was abandoned by her owner in Toy Story 2. That's not to say that I never part with my old Transformers, I do, but if I do I make sure that it's going to another fan (e.g.: I sold my original G1 Perceptor to Rampage).

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime View Post
    And if there could be a monetary price for my 25 years' of dedicated passion and love to Transformers... how much do you think I could sell it for on eBay?
    now, one issue with that is that you don't have an eBay account...

    Quote Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime View Post
    By price I meant monetary value. There certainly is value in dedication, without which such a venture would be arguably meaningless. And that would go for both self serving and non-self serving ventures, e.g. dedicating yourself to a life of charity or service is something that would be valued by yourself and/or others (e.g.: medals for military service). What I meant was I don't think you can place a defined dollar-value on something like your passion, dedication and love for Transformers.

    You could place a monetary value on all the toys and merchandise etc. that I've purchased, but I don't know if you could place such a value on my love for Transformers. All the endless hours that I've played with my toys, watched videos and DVDs and read comic books over and over again, drawing fan art and interacting with other fans (e.g. fan meets, conventions, cosplay etc.).
    Yeah, I agree with that. Dedication certainly has value (because value is quantity subjectively ascribed in accordance with individual beliefs), but value does not equal or equate to being 'priceless' (because a 'price' is an objective measure of quantity).

    I was just trying to reconcile that in my head. Anyway, I think I getting into semantics.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sky Shadow View Post
    Hmm... I have a few doubles (I know I have spares of some of the Target: 2006 issues), but the rest I wouldn't part with. Plus they're so pre-loved and crumpled and have been read so many times that I doubt anyone else would want them.
    sir, if you have a spare Marvel UK #184 (Space Pirates - Part 3) that you would like to sell me, you would be my eternal hero!

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