Do Music and Sport Label Transformers count? (UCM A-20 poll)

[Borgeman]

bloody oath they do

George

[The_Damned]

are they both properly licensed transformers?

[GoktimusPrime]

Yes. All unlicensed products don't count according to Article01 of the UCM, the only article that wasn't put to an opinion poll as it's the only definition that is based on legal fact - all other articles are based on opinions. The whole point of the Universal Counting Method is really about deciding what counts and doesn't count amongst officially licensed products.

e.g.: Decoys (which are really just erasers) are officially licensed products but according to the majority of voters, they don't count as Transformers toys (i.e.: when counting your TF collection you don't include them). That's what the UCM is about. But please do not debate about the UCM here - this thread is only for the discussion of whether the Music/Sport Label Transformers count or not. If you want to discuss counting methods please do so here.

[The_Damned]

i just wanted to be sure b4 i voted

[The_Damned]

Yes. All unlicensed products don't count according to Article01 of the UCM, the only article that wasn't put to an opinion poll as it's the only definition that is based on legal fact - all other articles are based on opinions. The whole point of the Universal Counting Method is really about deciding what counts and doesn't count amongst officially licensed products.

e.g.: Decoys (which are really just erasers) are officially licensed products but according to the majority of voters, they don't count as Transformers toys (i.e.: when counting your TF collection you don't include them). That's what the UCM is about. But please do not debate about the UCM here - this thread is only for the discussion of whether the Music/Sport Label Transformers count or not. If you want to discuss counting methods please do so here.

i just wanted to be sure b4 i voted, i thought it was a legitimate question which may affect the way i may vote.