Well, you're not acknowledging the parameters of PayPal Seller Protection. Do you think that since some sellers forgo that protection, the sellers that don't forgo it are overcharging you? That's hardly a fair assessment.
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Well, you're not acknowledging the parameters of PayPal Seller Protection. Do you think that since some sellers forgo that protection, the sellers that don't forgo it are overcharging you? That's hardly a fair assessment.
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I personally think its more unfair that someone gets charged $43 shipping on a tiny scout weapon just because he is not living in the seller's heck of the woods.
Canofwhoopass is right, if the seller wanted the protection, $43 is excesive.
Now let us drop this before it degenerates.
Last edited by kup; 11th February 2010 at 07:59 PM.
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There's no need for anything to degenerate.
It's good for people to be aware of all the parameters that relate to a seller's determined postage cost. It helps avoid unrealistic expectations.
If the seller has weighed this part, allocated a box to which he also knows the weight, and is aware that all of that is less than 1kg, then yes, it is indeed excessive. However, there is a lot of assumptions in there. I'd be curious to know how many sellers actually even own a postage scale (I know Kyle & I do!).
Personally, I think this seller and many others simply plug .5lb or 1lb into the eBay calculator because it's just safe and not worth the effort to prepack and weigh every little gun that someone overseas might want.
However, let's give credence to all of your assumptions. Let's say this guy made the equivalent of a cardboard ring box to store it in and managed to get it under the 0.5lb Express minimum. That means the cost is $28.95.
So, based on all of that, don't you think that your expectation of $5 to $8 for such a service is a bit "excessive"?
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We seem to be arguing this from such different points of view that we will never see eye to eye.
In order to agree with you I would have to set my mind that its fair for a seller to choose to charge $43 in deliberately over priced Express shipping for a tiny item the size of my pinky toe at a fraction of the weight when he also has the choice to charge $12-$15 In priority shipping and $7-$12 (or less) First class with decent packaging. Let's not get into why local US buyers happen to get free shipping.
Yes the choice does indeed exist since some succesful and long lasting US sellers do provide it regardless of Paypal fees and that's why they are in my favorite list.
We will not see eye to eye on this and I have my own experiences that form my bias and you have yours.
Thank you.
Last edited by kup; 11th February 2010 at 10:08 PM.
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(emphasis is mine)Originally Posted by kup
you do understand that what jay is talking about has nothing to do with paypal fees whatsoever dont you?
he is arguing that sellers are trying to avoid Fruad by a buyer claiming non recipt of an item that is not shipped in accordance with the paypal buyer protection scheme.....
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Like I said, different viewpoints.
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no
different topic.
fraud protection and sellers avoiding extra paypal fees are two completely different topics all together.
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