Sneak Peak At New Cartoon Bumblebee

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I only have 4 ROTF 'in movie' figures. Two which I bought before I saw the movie and another two which I bought the same night I saw the movie out of impulse at a 24 hour kmart. I regret doing that.

The toys themselves are actually pretty good but I have to say that I very much regret buying them because of my dissatisfaction with the film and most of all the near none existent characters - many were at best animated props.

I plan to sell them soon as I have nothing invested in them and regret the purchase.

[GoktimusPrime]

loophole, what I'm trying to say is that it's odd that some people will pay to see a movie when they're already _expecting_ to dislike it. If someone walks in with neutral expectations and is later disappointed, then sure, I can understand that they might've paid to watch it at least once. If you think you're not going to like a movie, then don't pay to see it. Wait until a friend buys it on DVD or if it comes out as a cheap weekly rental or broadcasts on television etc.

What I mean is, there are some people out there who just can't wait to hate TF3.

[Sky Shadow]

loophole, what I'm trying to say is that it's odd that some people will pay to see a movie when they're already _expecting_ to dislike it. If someone walks in with neutral expectations and is later disappointed, then sure, I can understand that they might've paid to watch it at least once. If you think you're not going to like a movie, then don't pay to see it. Wait until a friend buys it on DVD or if it comes out as a cheap weekly rental or broadcasts on television etc.

What I mean is, there are some people out there who just can't wait to hate TF3.

On the other hand (and I think it might be kind of what you're getting at, Goki, so... maybe... on the same hand?...), sometimes you have to spend money in order to find something you love. If I'd never shelled out money for them, I would never have known I could love Transformers comics, or Beast Wars toys, or Transformers: The Movie. And sometimes, unfortunately, you have to keep spending money in the hope that you'll still be there when it gets good again: if I'd given up on Transformers comics when All Hail Megatron reached a nadir, I would never have discovered Last Stand Of The Wreckers. Or if... say... everyone had given up on All Hail Megatron, IDW wouldn't have brought out LSOTWreckers at all.

Likewise, the 2007 film wasn't bad - it was kind of a sweet Transformers retelling of Herbie, followed by lots of fighting. I must have seen that Transformers film... like... twice. So I hoped that the sequel would be even better. And some things in it were good - I liked Alice and the revised definition of Seekers, for example. But most of it didn't make a whole lot of narrative sense and some of it was just plain silly. But (to bring this back on topic somewhat) that doesn't mean I won't be watching this new cartoon just because it looks like it might a little bit movieverse. On the contrary - if this series was set in the film universe, it actually stands a chance of fleshing out some of the (robot) characters and making me actually care about them. Which would be one of the best things it could do.

[GoktimusPrime]

Just like Clone Wars... I like this idea!

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Just like Clone Wars... I like this idea!

Clone Wars makes some remarkable improvements on the prequel trilogy concepts making them different in feel. Ironically enough, it's easier to take the Clone Wars cartoon more seriously than the live action due to better voice performances, better execution of characters and good stories. It is also less comedic in tone than the live action movies as you don't get ambushed by wacky aliens in every second backdrop.

Anakin also doesn't look like a dweeb who can't act

Hopefully this new Animated series will be something like that.

[Lord_Zed]

Anakin also doesn't look like a dweeb who can't act

He just looks like a cartoon dweeb with a decent(ish) voice actor?

Actually I haven't really seen enough of the Clone Wars series to get much of an impression of it, good or bad.

In my mind decent story and characters are far more important to a series than a movie and should always be given emphasis. A serialized show requires a draw card to get you to come back and keep watching it, and those things are the characters, (preferably) and (but also) or the story. A movie meanwhile can rely on things like effects, adrenaline and frenetic pace and still deliver something somewhat enjoyable as a one off event, but it wont fly in the long run. It doesn't really bother me that someone like Sideswipe didn't get much lines in ROTF, but if he showed up in this new toon for 12-20 odd episodes and did the same I would be annoyed (or at least reminded of G1 Thundercracker ).

[Kyle]

ROTF was a very crappy movie that I happen to like.

I LOVE many of the toys and have spent quite a bit buying them.

I would have loved Transformers Animated to continue beyond Season 3, but am also happy with how this new Discovery Channel Bumblebee is looking. As long as they keep the writing good, I think the movie inspired look is a good idea. I'll remain positive.

[5FDP]

ROTF was a very crappy movie that I happen to like.

Agreed. There are actually quite a few movies that I liked when I was a kid and when watching them now, I realise how bad they actually were.

[Lord_Zed]

Agreed. There are actually quite a few movies that I liked when I was a kid and when watching them now, I realise how bad they actually were.

Not to mention the G1 Transformers Cartoon (at least for me), of which I have fond memories of, but cannot sustain watching more than one episode of at a time without being bored.

ROTF is like this for me, I got a buzz from it the first time, partly because it was a bit of a TF fan event. On a subsequent viewing I relaised how bad it was, however like with G1 I choose to cling to the good nostalgic memories.

As for the toys I enjoy them on thier own merits, Sure the backstory generated for them by the movie isn't very good, but I haven't paid much attention to any of the backstories for Hasbro's new lines since Beast Wars.

[5FDP]

Not to mention the G1 Transformers Cartoon (at least for me), of which I have fond memories of, but cannot sustain watching more than one episode of at a time without being bored.

Seriously? I watch it every night (not joking) while I am in bed. I don't think I could ever get bored of it.

The wife hated it at first, but now it doesn't bother her. She just reads until she falls asleep.