Animated now cancelled by Hasbro US, not just here?

[SharkyMcShark]

Not too fussed, Animated is generally very overrated by the fandom.

Could have done with Rodimus though.

[Doubledealer]

Not too fussed, Animated is generally very overrated by the fandom.

How daaaaare you! Wash your mouth out with soap and water right this minute!

Seriously though, spewin' if this is true. As Gok alludes to we need MORE animated toys (I'd love a Spittor and Cyclonus personally) not less!

I'll buy the TT versions of any unreleased Hasbro characters but it'll probably play on my OCD by not perfectly fitting in with the rest. :/

[Sky Shadow]

Not too fussed, Animated is generally very overrated by the fandom.

Could have done with Rodimus though.

Just out of interest, SharkyMcShark (it only strikes me because I've just come from reading the recent posts in the Wreckers thread) - if Animated is "very overrated" and Last Stand Of The Wreckers is "thin on the ground for plot and characterisation" - what Transformers stuff do you think is good?

[SharkyMcShark]

Just out of interest, SharkyMcShark (it only strikes me because I've just come from reading the recent posts in the Wreckers thread) - if Animated is "very overrated" and Last Stand Of The Wreckers is "thin on the ground for plot and characterisation" - what Transformers stuff do you think is good?

To really draw me in as a Transformers audio visual media I generally want there to be either a good plot with deep characters, and/or lots of visceral action. I prefer the former to the latter generally speaking, but some lines are better at providing one or the other.

For TV shows, Beast Wars and Beast Machines had fantastic characterisation and a good amount of action. To me those series represent the height of Transformers TV show writing - the characters were engaging and the plots were reasonably deep. Robots in Disguise had an interesting (and fresh) plot and I quite enjoyed following that (also the switch to a more 'Japanese' style of animation was a good move at the time. I find both of the movies reasonably visually engaging to keep me entertained. In contrast I found Animated neither visually engaing nor interesting to follow.

As for comics, really it just goes to whether the characters and plot draw me in (I don't value action as much in the comics). Any of the Dreamwave G1 series I found quite stimulating (especially the second series, where Magnus and Shockwave had formed an uneasy alliance). I also quite liked a lot of the Spotlight stuff, specifically Hot Rod, Double Dealer, and Blurr. While its had a lacklustre start I find the Ongoing series reasonably engaging - I like what they're doing with certain characters (specifically Rodimus, Magnus, and Swindle).

While I'll openly admit that I don't much care for the Animated aesthetic, it boils down to the characters for me. The Beast Wars characters to me stood the test of time, whereas the only character that I approached liking as much as that in Animated was Starscream (I felt it was a reasonably interesting take on the Starscream concept). With The Wreckers comics, what bugs me is that the rookies characters are all archetypal rookies thrust into heavy combat - the outwardly self assured one, the one that hero worships the rest of the crew, the one that didn't realise that war wasn't just a big adventure, and the one that hero worships Optimus Prime.

[G1Optimal]

Although i am not into the Animated line...

But maybe Hasbro will "or could" release them under the Generations Line?

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Doh, I forgot about Wingblade Prime and Underwater Bumblebee.

I also dont have Electro Soundwave yet

PANIC TIME

I there Much chance these will get released under the Universe banner? Or is the end of the toys themselves, not just the packaging?

[GoktimusPrime]

Sharky: Yeah, I know what you mean. The problem with Animated is that a lot of the Transformers are more just archetypes rather than actual characters, with little character depth and development. It is character development that is the engine that drives stories. But to their credit, they did try to introduce more character development and better story writing in the later episodes. A lot of the better moments in Animated occured in its later eps. It irks me that Season 3 isn't coming out on DVD here as it's the best part of Animated IMO.

Interesting that you said you liked the Dreamwave comics, because initially I really did NOT like DW's G1 series. The first volume of their G1 reboot was just big robots bashing each other about with little story substance to engage me. Bleh. But then the writing started getting better (like the Magnus/Shockwave alliance you mentioned) -- like Animated, I felt that Dreamwave was cut just as it was showing signs of promise (although in this case it was Dreamwave's own fault, oh yeah, I can't _stand_ Pat Lee's "art" <shudder> -- but I can easily forgive crap art if the story is good).