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    Quote Originally Posted by Ode to a Grasshopper View Post
    Our best bet here is to get the Greens the balance of power in the Senate
    That's actually looking very likely.

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    I always vote for the Greenies, Labour lost my vote over 20 years ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMHFConvoy View Post
    I do agree with you but I wouldn't want a govt with Tony Abbot in charge.
    Yeah, specially since he isn't opposed to these internet changes and would be willing to take them even further.

    Ughhh! The political environment seems hopeless.

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    True, I wouldn't vote for Abbot either. It's looking likely that I would vote for any other party. I would vote for any party that opposes the filter. That is the only thing that will swing my vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1orion2many View Post
    I always vote for the Greenies, Labour lost my vote over 20 years ago

    Which, due to preferences, the vote you cast goes to labour.
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    Have you been spying on me again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatbot View Post
    Which, due to preferences, the vote you cast goes to labour.
    You can - and IMO should -number your own preferences you know, I always do - IIRC this time around the Greens have an official line of voters should DIY. Also, the way they negotiate preferences is by trying for Senate seats, so in this case it's the same difference as far as veto power in the Senate goes.

    Doing some quick research I dug up the Greens policy pages on Science and Technologyand Media and Communications - while they have an emphasis on 'net neutrality there's nothing specific about interent privacy unless it's in their full policy document, which I can't really be bothered reading through. I'd say it's still a pretty safe bet they'd be opposed to the filter and mandatory data retention given their broader stance, but it is probably worth emailing them with your concerns about the filter/data retention and asking them what their official position on them is.
    I have a friend in the party and will send him a message checking into this - if I can get an official stance I'll post it here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatbot View Post
    Which, due to preferences, the vote you cast goes to labour.
    Not if you vote below the line.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ode to a Grasshopper View Post
    I'd say it's still a pretty safe bet they'd be opposed to the filter and mandatory data retention given their broader stance, but it is probably worth emailing them with your concerns about the filter/data retention and asking them what their official position on them is.
    The Greens are opposed to the filter and have said they will not vote for it.

    As for the data retention issue, I suspect they're likely to oppose that as well. Scott Ludlam has said he'll be discussing this issue with the party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SGB View Post
    The Greens are opposed to the filter and have said they will not vote for it.

    As for the data retention issue, I suspect they're likely to oppose that as well. Scott Ludlam has said he'll be discussing this issue with the party.
    You beat me to it - here's the transcript of Ludlum's speech.
    I have also held back from declaring the Greens' voting intentions on this issue in the faint hope that by the time we saw legislation the minister might have accommodated at least some of the concerns that have been put to him by a huge range of stakeholders. But, on the back of the Four Corners piece the other night, it is pretty obvious that this is a false hope. So let me remove that ambiguity once and for all. If the government presents its mandatory internet censorship scheme to the parliament in the form that the minister has been describing to us, the Australian Greens will vote against it.

    In closing, in the brief time remaining to me, I just want to give you an example of the kind of opposition that the minister has drawn, and one of the reasons why this proposal has drawn such far-reaching criticism. Suzanne Dvorak from Save the Children Australia has said:

    The lack of evidence to support the efficacy of the Government's planned internet filter suggests that the money could be better spent on internet safety education for children and parents, an investment that will offer children greater protection online and offline.

    I would like to heartily endorse those comments. It is not good enough for the government to simply get this issue out of the way during the election campaign and then bring it back straight afterwards. That is an act of calculated cowardice. I think it is very important for the government to drop the mandatory filter; to do it now, before the election; and to work with the Greens, the opposition and, most importantly, with the broader community, to provide a safe online environment for Australian children.

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    OzLog won’t include web history: AG

    Still wary, though. Especially as the AG has not denied emails would not be recorded.

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