Quote Originally Posted by morg176
E OS pulls this off ok, although i didnt like the toy enough to buy it.
Yeah, it's a really underwhelming and f'expensive toy. But it was the closest match I could think of with the concept you were suggesting.

I like the Headmaster unit on it though... I call it Energon Omega Spreem.

Quote Originally Posted by morg176
some of the larger leader class tf are more like large dolls that action figure toys, and are f* stupidly expensive for what you actually get. Maybe thats why they are often shelfhuggers
Most boxed Transformers are like this. That's why sometimes when people say things like a certain carded toy (e.g. WFC Optimus Prime) should be made as a Voyager or something, I'm hesitant to agree cos odds are if Hasbro did do that, the engineering would only be marginally better - but not enough to justify the price point... which would be justified by Hasbro with an electronic gimmick (which in turn compromises engineering; e.g. if there's a sound gimmick the toy would have to be designed around a central "block"). That's why a lot of carded toys, like WFC Optimus Prime, are often better designed than their larger and more expensive boxed counterparts.