G1 KO "reissues" - worth it?

[kup]

I don't collect KOs either for similar reason as Sky Shadow - You know they are not real and unlike most of the 3rd party fan stuff, they are straight rip offs often sold with the intention of deceiving the buyer that it's the real thing. I have tried very hard to avoid them while collecting G1.

However given the circumstances of G1 KOs being constantly released with new ones announced almost every couple of weeks, it's a good idea to keep up with news about them. That way you are well informed in avoiding them. When I was collecting G1, I prioritized which vintage figure to get next based on what KO was announced, that way I was assured to buy the legit figure before the KO hits the market. Like when I heard about the Sunstreaker KO being released soon, the first thing I did was go on ebay and buy a vintage that way I was assured that it was real as the KO was yet to be released.

[liegeprime]

Out of curio though, those KO G1 cars, do they have diecast parts as well like the original or not.. e.g Wheeljack...

thank goodness Ive completed the G1 figures that are KOd before they were KOd so at least I know what I have is the vintage stuff... but mostly reissues hehehe.

[Eruntalon]

I'm against collecting KO G1 because of moral reasons and as a matter of principle. However if one were a collector of KO toys in general for some quirky reason then it would be different.

I believe the only decent use for KO transformers is for kit bashing.

[VERT]

Your all like a moral G1 God squad (Just joking I dont care less)

But yes all have the Die Cast all are the same or better. They copy the original version before Hasbro made them cheap.

Remember if Hasbro shut then KO people down they would use these moulds for their own reissues. The moulds are that good.

Put it this way Look at the Takara reissue of Rumble next to the original. Its a totaly new mould that just looks like the real one. Different head and hands and other stuff.

[Soundwarp]

I used to beleive in KO's.
I learnt that just waiting and getting the real thing is best.

[LordCyrusOmega]

While out shopping one day I came across an obvious ko set of constructicons. They were cheap so brought them. Regretted it the moment I opened them. Poor plastic and construction, lacking paint and smaller then the real thing. For a short time o displayed them then took them down. This experience influenced me to stay away from ko's. I'd rather the real thing.

I later found out that my g1 rumble and ragbat were ko as well and was furious that someone sold me one while trying to pass it off as real. I was only starting out when I brought it. On the plus side it taught meto use caution.

[VERT]

Yeah the cheap Constructicon set is junk. Good only for....Well not much. What is the quality like on the Ratbat and Frenzy? Would rather that then the crap Takara tried to pass off.

[kup]

I have an older KO Ratbat that I mistakenly bought on ebay a couple of years ago. The quality isn't bad, about as good as an Encore tape reissue.

Since I have gotten a legit Ratbat and it is of a better plastic quality than the KO but still close enough to fool anyone not familiar with the small differences.

[bruticus]

High end KO's - really awesome (and dangerous) such as the KO japanese headmaster set. very hard to tell without close inspection!!
"Supposedly" high end KO's - can be pretty sh*tty sometimes like the wheeljack. you will never confuse this guy with the real deal! this range is a hit and miss.
Cheap Chinese KO's (typically carded) - some are just nasty. others are solidly built and really great for custom projects when you need spare parts or if you dont want to chop up that genuine $150 etc...
Unique KO's - oversized stuff can be pretty enjoyable due to the novelty. (like my two Bruticus'... oh yeah!!!)

Get the high end G1 KO's if you already have the original and want to educate yourself on how to identify the fakes. nothing beats hands on experience.
However, dont buy KO's if you are desperately wanting/needing that figure for your collection, as you will be unsatisfied when you get it due to that nagging feeling and the potential chance of getting something that is poor quality. Only buy it if you really dont mind it and will enjoy it.

Its entirely up to you, but i would try to hunt for genuine G1 versions first as they are more rewarding to own.
If you only want minty G1 figures then you must save up for them or try harder to find the bargains. you will be much more satisfied when you put the effort in.

[LordCyrusOmega]

Yeah the cheap Constructicon set is junk. Good only for....Well not much. What is the quality like on the Ratbat and Frenzy? Would rather that then the crap Takara tried to pass off.

Ratbat is good quality but frenzy is awful. Stickers fell off straight away and hs arms are splitting along the seams.
The ko devastator was my own fault. Picked him up at paddies markets. Should have known better.
In the end if you're going to collect my as well buy the real thing.