It's...a...movie.
Alternate lightsabre duel scene:
* Jedi thrusts lightsabre through evil guy's heart before he/she/non-gender can block.
* Evil guy drops dead.
* Main fight sequence over.
* Film ends.
** Angry film go-ers start a riot in the movie theatre **
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While a level of suspension of disbelief is required when enjoying any form of fantasy/scifi, there does need to be a certain level of realism in order to make it not too unbelievable for the audience. Blaster guns, lightsabres and Force powers are arguably fictitious, but this doesn't mean that there can't be a level of realism within the fantasy. IMO, that level of additional realism helps to make the fantasy more enjoyable, as it helps to ground it and just make it more believable. If you're going to leave yourself open in a fight, then you're making just too easy for the enemy to attack you. Enemies who are trained (or should be trained) to kill you as soon as you make an opening.Originally Posted by Megatran
Examples of fantasy/scifi genre films with realistic fight choreography include:
* The Lord of the Rings
* The Hobbit
* The Chronicles of Narnia
* The Original Star Wars Trilogy!
etc.
All of these fights portray the brutal savagery of combative fighting. There's none of this nonsensical grandstanding or "peacocking" where you're just trying to make the characters strike dashing (but stupidly exposed) poses or fancy acrobatic or gymnastic movements that would just get you killed in a real fight. Many good fiction writers realise the importance of grounding their work in realism. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle even invented a fictitious martial art for his titular character!
Tyred of realism?
^That's basically how Jedi & Sith fight. The only reason why some light sabre fights go on longer is because they're up against highly skilled opponents (e.g. other Force users, Bounty Hunters etc.). But you look at the average non Force user against a Force user, and it's typically a quick fight. Look at Palpatine vs the Jedi Masters; he kills Agen Kolar and Saesee Tiin in precisely the same manner that you've just described. Kit Fisto falls shortly after, and only Mace Windu is able to hold up against Palpatine. That's precisely how real combat works.
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I'm with Gok here, because that's the first thing running through my mind as well when I saw the flash swings. I know it's Star Wars for chrissakes and it's make belief dialed to 11, but it's difficult to hush the part of me that does Iaido...
In anycase I hope for better choreography in the new movies, not a deal breaker if it doesn't though.
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I think one 'disadvantage' of being a martial artist is that it is much harder (if not impossible) to get ourselves to stop analysing every move as if it were a real fight.
Although I think the same can be said about anything that an audience member may have studied or have an affinity for (science, geography, languages etc.). Like that 'Australian' Jaeger pilot in Pacific Rim with the really bad attempt at an Australian accent. A lot of Americans might think it sounds "true blue Aussie," but as an Australia, you know that you just can't switch off that part of your brain that keeps on hearing it as an American trying to sound Australian (but not quite succeeding).
I once had this phone conversation with an American TF fan...
"Why don't you sound Australian?"
"I do sound Australian."
"No, I mean, like..."
"Steve Irwin?"
"Yeah!"
"Well wah dun't you tahk lahk For-rest Gurmp?"
"Fair point."
That's why assassin droids are deadly, although Force Sensitives have a better chance of surviving them. Snipers and assassins aren't generally used against Force Sensitives (unless the assassin is another Force adept), because often the Force user will either sense a disturbance in the Force (thus they lose the element of surprise), and/or they can use their Force powers against a Droid. Worse still if the droid is using a living weapon, like the droid that tried to kill Padmé with those worms, presumably the malicious intent of those creatures tipped off Anakin and Obi-Wan who raced into Padmé's room and thwarted them.Seems a much simpler plot lol
This is why Palpatine went through the elaborate effort of building the Clone Army as a means of destroying the Jedi. Through years of fighting together, he allowed the Jedi to form a bond with the Clones. Anakin Skywalker was among the first Jedi to insist on giving the Clones names and treating them more like equal humans, rather than as a sub-class. This is why you see Clones walking around with names in Episode III (Oddball, Cody, Gree etc.), and in the expanded universe content (e.g. Rex, Heavy, Fives etc.); a far cry from the dehumanising codes given to Imperial Stormtroopers (e.g. TK421 etc.). The Jedi grew to implicitly trust their Clone brethren. The Clones were of course, genetically bred to take orders without question or emotion. When Order 66 was enacted, they attacked the Jedi without any malice will, thus they didn't generate any disturbance in the Force. Even when Yoda was able to sense his Clones' betrayal, it may not have been the Clones' fault -- he may have started sensing the suffering of his fellow Jedi from across the galaxy just moments before Gree and his troops entered his hut. One of the reasons why Order 66 had to be executed simultaneously was to reduce the chances of Jedi detecting the suffering of other Jedi, but since Yoda wasn't actually on the front lines at the time, coupled with his probable heightened Force sensitivity, may have given him a slight advantage that most other Jedi didn't have. Even then, Yoda wasn't aware of the full extent of what had happened until after he returned to the Jedi Temple.
So yeah, Force Sensitives can be assassinated, but it's bloody hard!
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Query: you rang, meatbag?
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Holy crap! The actor that plays Brienne of Tarth from Game of Thrones is playing Captain Phasma in The Force Awakens!!!
"Save the rebellion! Save the dream!" - Saw Gerrera
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Yup saw that in the casting, though I wonder if it will be a big break out role for her, or just a small one.
I'm kinda more interested to see Oscar Isaac, between Poe Dameron in the new Star Wars, his roles in Inside Llewellyn Davis, Ex Machina and the upcoming X-Men Apocalypse he seems to be a pretty versatile actor.
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That's what Star Wars is all about!Disney sure knows how to milk a license. Not my photo.
It's the reason we never got Spaceballs merchandise.
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Driving home last night after watching the Force Awakens, I'm sitting behind a car, and check out the first half of the number plate!
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