All Hail Megatron Issues 1 to 6 (Vol 1)

[i_amtrunks]

(Not to mention the fact that IDW had to try something new b/c Furman's run was sinking into unchartered depths at a time when Transformers is a hot property. Like it or not, the sales numbers for Furman's run are pathetic and change was needed.)

AHM #1 sold a solitary issue less than Devastation #6.

[Hereticpoo]

I'm glad you like it STL I'm loving it too. After AHM #1 I went and bought all the TPB's i could that related to the IDW and tion comics.

I like the way Mr Macarthy has made the characters as gritty as possible considering its a children's franchise. And I met the guy for like 1 min and he seems cool, hell we're practically BF's.....except I don't understand the restraining order Shane, whats that about! JK!

I just read issues #2 and #3 and I can't speak highly enough of this series. #1 felt generic crash and bang but I've really warmed to the different style to TFs. It's very refreshing. This is a much more cinematic approach to the stories compared to Furman's weaving together of multiple plots. Its been very possible to enjoy and I don't think the continuity issues are as glaring as people have made them out to be. I think those fans are being rather precious. A year has elapsed, a lot has changed. Accept it for what it is.

(Not to mention the fact that IDW had to try something new b/c Furman's run was sinking into unchartered depths at a time when Transformers is a hot property. Like it or not, the sales numbers for Furman's run are pathetic and change was needed.)

The conversation between Starscream and Megatron in #2 was extremely well executed and intelligent. The Constructicons and Astrotrain's snipe at one another was welcomed too and gave some texture to the rivalry among the ranks. Ravage's silence was great too. It gave the book real atmosphere and spoke volumes about the nature of the character.

The human characters are not being forced down our throats. They're there to tell the story of the Transformers and how humanity responds to the Decepticons' assault on Earth. They're not the new age kid genius/punk who wants to tell the Autobots what to do. They've got problems but there within the context of the story. I actually find myself caring for them more for that reason as opposed to Verity, Hunter and the other one (Jimmy?). They have a job to do and they struggle through the crisis. This is a world without heroes, a world without hope. And it's a wonderful world that McCarthy has constructed.

I wonder how much of this is related to Spotlight Mirage too.

My only quibble was what the heck happened to Devastator's breast plate? that really irked me as they combined. At first I thought it was a colouring mistake but on closer inspection, I realised it wasn't there and that jarred me a bit.

Love Guido's art. He's a talent though I think the inks aren't doing him justice here. He seems a bit too scratchy at times as opposed to the clean lines we know he's capable of.

But yes, overall, I haven't been this excited about TF fiction for a while now (since Stormbringer/Escalation). It's simpler but it reduces TFs down to some of the core aspects of the war between Autobot and Decepticon. The characters and the pages have life. It isn't trying too hard and it doesn't make you wait and wait for the plot to develop. I love how everything is slowly unfolding too, it's like we're being exposed to an all new mindset. I look forward to picking up #4 and #5 from the comic shop next week or the week after.

[Golden Phoenix]

My only quibble was what the heck happened to Devastator's breast plate? that really irked me as they combined. At first I thought it was a colouring mistake but on closer inspection, I realised it wasn't there and that jarred me a bit.

I actually like this. I liked that there didn't appear to be any parts coming from anywhere else.

[Lord_Zed]

(Not to mention the fact that IDW had to try something new b/c Furman's run was sinking into unchartered depths at a time when Transformers is a hot property. Like it or not, the sales numbers for Furman's run are pathetic and change was needed.)


The human characters are not being forced down our throats. They're there to tell the story of the Transformers and how humanity responds to the Decepticons' assault on Earth. They're not the new age kid genius/punk who wants to tell the Autobots what to do. They've got problems but there within the context of the story. I actually find myself caring for them more for that reason as opposed to Verity, Hunter and the other one (Jimmy?). They have a job to do and they struggle through the crisis. This is a world without heroes, a world without hope. And it's a wonderful world that McCarthy has constructed.

I wonder how much of this is related to Spotlight Mirage too.

While I am warming to the series, I can't say the human characters in AHM are any better than Jimmy Verity and co, there just as sterotypical and dull, I'd almost agree with the not being forced down our throats part, till Spike turned up.

Continuity problems aside and despite what you say there are some problems thus far, my only real complaints about AHM are that I still find it very slow, Revelations was to damn fast but this is the oppisite end of the scale there must be a happy medium somewhere. I also miss the more diverse cast of previous comics, while I was getting bored of the -ation series it seemed like it was finally getting intersting with humanity learning about the TF's and what not.

I miss the linked Spotlights though, well except Spotlight Mirage, I hope that's not linked to AHM becuase it was terrible.

[FFN]

I totally disagree with everything STL has said about AHM.

AHM #1 sold a solitary issue less than Devastation #6.

Yeah. IDW claims they totally sold out, but to my knowledge, they've yet to actually tell us what those sales figures were.

[Hereticpoo]

Are you trolling FFN? I respect that you disagree with STL and some other opinions but why do you not like it so much?

All you've done is make statements of fact in this thread regarding continuation and you haven't really given your express opinion. So what is your opinion? Why don't you like it?

Your statement to STL makes me feel like I'm stupid for liking it...so whats your problem?

And we're due for issue #6 in a few weeks, if you hate it so much why are you still reading? Sorry Man I'm not trying to get agro or piss you off so please don't be offended. I just wanna understand what all the negativity is about.

I totally disagree with everything STL has said about AHM.

Yeah. IDW claims they totally sold out, but to my knowledge, they've yet to actually tell us what those sales figures were.

[Sky Shadow]

Are you trolling FFN? I respect that you disagree with STL and some other opinions but why do you not like it so much?

Actually, I think FFN has a point - basically take everything that STL likes about All Hail Megatron, and that's what I dislike about it. (But, STL and I have inverse, bipolar tastes in everything to do with Transformers comics, as we discovered in the 'What Is The Greatness Of Transformers UK' thread. If we ever agree about a comic, the universe will cease to exist. )

I've already made my points earlier in this thread and in the "All Hail Megatron #5 Preview" and "Covers for Spotlight Drift" ones. I hate everything in this comic that's set on Earth (most of the first three issues), but I'm really enjoying the stuff on Cybertron (except the fact that Drift is there). I was sick to death of the first two years of Decepticons in the first place and McCarthy's Decepticons are plastic cut outs and I wish they'd get on with wiping out all the humans on the planet so I don't have to put up with them anymore*. Guido Guidi can't draw humans well either, so that would be another plus for the series. On the other hand, McCarthy's Autobots are really keeping me interested. It's been a long time since I used issue #2 to line the kitty litter tray, so I can't check, but I doubt Ravage's silence is characterisation, McCarthy probably just doesn't know Ravage can talk.

Nevertheless, I think it probably was a good thing for IDW to provide readers with a get-in-on-the-ground-floor-type reboot - the Furman storylines were getting convoluted, mainly because of the nonsensical restarting of Spotlights at #1 every issue so I could never work out what order they were supposed to be read in. Oh and I hated Furman's use of Sunstreaker as a Headmaster - he should have used Chromedome or Siren or hell - Nightbeat for that role - it's not like the man's averse to overusing him.

End rant. For now.

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Alternatively, I'll be ecstatic if Spike wipes out Megatron and all the 1984-85 Decepticons so we can replace them with less boring ones who have personalities. Preferably from 1988-90.

[Hereticpoo]

Hey thats cool Sky Shadow, at least you say why. Thx

Actually, I think FFN has a point - basically take everything that STL likes about All Hail Megatron, and that's what I dislike about it. (But, STL and I have inverse, bipolar tastes in everything to do with Transformers comics, as we discovered in the 'What Is The Greatness Of Transformers UK' thread. If we ever agree about a comic, the universe will cease to exist. )

I've already made my points earlier in this thread and in the "All Hail Megatron #5 Preview" and "Covers for Spotlight Drift" ones. I hate everything in this comic that's set on Earth (most of the first three issues), but I'm really enjoying the stuff on Cybertron (except the fact that Drift is there). I was sick to death of the first two years of Decepticons in the first place and McCarthy's Decepticons are plastic cut outs and I wish they'd get on with wiping out all the humans on the planet so I don't have to put up with them anymore*. Guido Guidi can't draw humans well either, so that would be another plus for the series. On the other hand, McCarthy's Autobots are really keeping me interested. It's been a long time since I used issue #2 to line the kitty litter tray, so I can't check, but I doubt Ravage's silence is characterisation, McCarthy probably just doesn't know Ravage can talk.

Nevertheless, I think it probably was a good thing for IDW to provide readers with a get-in-on-the-ground-floor-type reboot - the Furman storylines were getting convoluted, mainly because of the nonsensical restarting of Spotlights at #1 every issue so I could never work out what order they were supposed to be read in. Oh and I hated Furman's use of Sunstreaker as a Headmaster - he should have used Chromedome or Siren or hell - Nightbeat for that role - it's not like the man's averse to overusing him.

End rant. For now.

*Spoilers...
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Alternatively, I'll be ecstatic if Spike wipes out Megatron and all the 1984-85 Decepticons so we can replace them with less boring ones who have personalities. Preferably from 1988-90.

[Lord_Zed]

I've already made my points earlier in this thread and in the "All Hail Megatron #5 Preview" and "Covers for Spotlight Drift" ones. I hate everything in this comic that's set on Earth (most of the first three issues), but I'm really enjoying the stuff on Cybertron (except the fact that Drift is there). I was sick to death of the first two years of Decepticons in the first place and McCarthy's Decepticons are plastic cut outs and I wish they'd get on with wiping out all the humans on the planet so I don't have to put up with them anymore*. Guido Guidi can't draw humans well either, so that would be another plus for the series. On the other hand, McCarthy's Autobots are really keeping me interested. It's been a long time since I used issue #2 to line the kitty litter tray, so I can't check, but I doubt Ravage's silence is characterisation, McCarthy probably just doesn't know Ravage can talk.

I agree with the above, except I have no opinon on Drift, and am more annoyed at the year 3 movie Autobots who seem a bit stereotypical to me, they were more interesting in the previous IDW stories (so far). the Jazz-Prowl-Ironhide traitor thing is cool though.

Spoilerage.........

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Alternatively, I'll be ecstatic if Spike wipes out Megatron and all the 1984-85 Decepticons so we can replace them with less boring ones who have personalities. Preferably from 1988-90

I kind of agree, if were going to pigeonhole TF's by years then the most of the Deceps and Bots should get wiped out in a cataclysmic battle, leaving room to introduce the next 1988-90 chracters who will get wiped out 12 issues later.

Although I must agree I find the Autobots story more interesting than the Deceps this time around, I think that's a first for me.

[FFN]

Are you trolling FFN? I respect that you disagree with STL and some other opinions but why do you not like it so much?

All you've done is make statements of fact in this thread regarding continuation and you haven't really given your express opinion. So what is your opinion? Why don't you like it?

Your statement to STL makes me feel like I'm stupid for liking it...so whats your problem?

And we're due for issue #6 in a few weeks, if you hate it so much why are you still reading? Sorry Man I'm not trying to get agro or piss you off so please don't be offended. I just wanna understand what all the negativity is about.

I'm fighting the good fight, so to speak. I enjoyed Furman's run on IDW, particularly his use of characters who are rarely seen, or new takes on familiar characters. I was getting into the story. I enjoyed the off-the-wall idea of Sunstreaker as a Headmaster, for instance. I believe this is one of the few stories to give Sunstreaker a significant role. Man, for a guy who barely appeared in G1 comics or the cartoon, he sure is popular

I do not enjoy my story being ganked away from me so I can (essentially) read the G1 cartoon, but with blood and humans dying. I question some of the plot holes, such as the claimed "1 year later" (Devastation showed the Decepticons under immediate attack... so what have they been doing?), and how come in issue 4 Megatron claimed that the Earth had been conquered. Was the conquest of the rest of the world not important enough to show on page? In any case by issue 5 it is implied that the rest of the world was still unconquered. Oh yeah, how come various Decepticon dudes have reformatted into body forms that transform into outdated Earth vehicles and technology compared to their previous body forms?

I'm also not enjoying Guido's pencils in AHM. I much preferred his work in Spotlight: Galvatron.

So, along with continuity issues and and comments made by the powers that be that have irked me, I do not like AHM and do not support it.

I also get the feeling on this forum that I should support it because the author is Australian. I enjoy going against the grain