KO: Gentei Skywarp/Thundercracker/Mirage + Botcon 2007 Mirage+ Ghost Starscream

[KaRNiV8L PRiME]

Just found these.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....m=290500848360 seller says these are remakes

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....fvi%3D1&_rdc=1 same seller says these are real.

Very difficult to tell

[1AZRAEL1]

He says this in the description

Great remake set! Limited! Can't tell the difference!

But sadly, if one were to not say it, and sell it as legit, I can't see a way of knowing.

I'd be very careful in buying them on ebay.

[kup]

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And the whole "this TC is of better quality than the official release" is just crap to me. Yea mine had a problem with guns falling out of his arms, but that was an easy fix. Shouldn't have to do that, but I am willing to with an official figure.

Although this by no means justifies getting a KO, it does annoy me greatly that the KOers are better at QC than the legitimate piece in which we have paid Takara-Tomy good money for.

I think that as a loyal customer who buys legit products from Takara-Tomy despite hefty prices and avoids Knock offs , that I have every right to be peed off at this.

Forking out $80-$120 for defective figures from the 'Big Name' manufacturer and then have a greedy a$$ KOer come around later and do it much better at a cheaper price from some hole and I am supposed to just be happy with my defective purchase just because it's legit? I was under the impression that the real deal, specially an exclusive was supposed to be better than the 'cheap a$$' KO

Anyway rant over.

[1AZRAEL1]

Although this by no means justifies getting a KO, it does annoy me greatly that the KOers are better at QC than the legitimate piece in which we have paid Takara-Tomy good money for.

True in some cases, but even Karnival Primes KO was worse than mine. It is probably not true across the whole board, but he got a bad one.

Forking out $80-$120 for defective figures from the 'Big Name' manufacturer and then have a greedy a$$ KOer come around later and do it much better at a cheaper price from some hole and I am supposed to just be happy with my defective purchase just because it's legit? I was under the impression that the real deal, specially an exclusive was supposed to be better than the 'cheap a$$' KO :rolleyes

Is that how much they were charging when he came out? I don't know, I had to buy mine after market, which cost me a bit.

That being said, I still prefer to buy a legit figure, even if the KO is cheaper and of better quality than the legit. I just don't like buying KOs.

[kup]

True in some cases, but even Karnival Primes KO was worse than mine. It is probably not true across the whole board, but he got a bad one.



Is that how much they were charging when he came out? I don't know, I had to buy mine after market, which cost me a bit.

That being said, I still prefer to buy a legit figure, even if the KO is cheaper and of better quality than the legit. I just don't like buying KOs.

If I had know this scenario was going to play out, I wouldn't have gotten neither. It kind of feels dirty to have bought the real thing now after this.

[1AZRAEL1]

But you just never know how it plays out until it's too late.

Anyhow, my only QC problem is with the peg not fitting. Fixed how I normally fixs things that are too loose. Minor problem for me to have the set of seekers.

[jaydisc]

Forking out $80-$120 for defective figure

I don't think it's fair that you judge the Big Name manufacturer based on your aftermarket price. The figure was intended for domestic only release in Japan and if my memory serves, was priced at approximately US$30-35.

[kup]

I don't think it's fair that you judge the Big Name manufacturer based on your aftermarket price. The figure was intended for domestic only release in Japan and if my memory serves, was priced at approximately US$30-35.

Doesn't change the fact that they got it wrong while the KOers got it right.

[gamblor916]

Not necessarily. All this is based on someone else's opinion, and I'd rather have them side by side to judge.

[KaRNiV8L PRiME]

Came in mail yesterday

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Key Points
+ Much tighter joints than the thundercracker
+ Feel it's a better quality of plastic
+ Has indent in knee like official Seekers
+ Missiles fit both great in upper arms, very tight in wings
+ It's Sunstorm
+ Feels more solid than other KOs
+ Seeker army is complete????
- Yellow paint apps ontop of silver paint apps are little messy but not really noticable
- Missiles/Guns don't fit in hands

Will take more pics if requested when I get home tonight


Overall a great figure!!!