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Thread: New images of TT United Wheeljack, G2 Prime, Scourge, and Frenzy/Rumble

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    Quote Originally Posted by SharkyMcShark View Post
    Well its true isn't it
    Actually, it isn't. The opinion that that "everything Takara does is by default better than Hasbro" is indeed still alive and kicking. I, for one, am of that exact opinion. But as soon as you use the word "fallacy", your statement loses its validity, as opinions, by definition, can't be false.

    Regardless, you're probably better off just stating your own opinion, as opposed to critiquing anyone else's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaydisc View Post
    Actually, it isn't. The opinion that that "everything Takara does is by default better than Hasbro" is indeed still alive and kicking. I, for one, am of that exact opinion. But as soon as you use the word "fallacy", your statement loses its validity, as opinions, by definition, can't be false.

    Regardless, you're probably better off just stating your own opinion, as opposed to critiquing anyone else's.
    Well in fairness it is a fallacy. Not everything Takara does is better than Hasbro. Not everything Hasbro does is better than Takara.

    It still escapes me why this is a consistently touchy subject.
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    I think he is getting at the fact that someone may believe that everything Takara does is better than Hasbro, and as such is their own opinion.

    Although opinions can be false, in this case it comes down to how they feel about the subject.

    True though that it still gets people ryled up about it is beyond me as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SharkyMcShark View Post
    Well in fairness it is a fallacy. Not everything Takara does is better than Hasbro. Not everything Hasbro does is better than Takara.

    It still escapes me why this is a consistently touchy subject.
    That's still only your opinion. You are entitled to yours as is everyone else.

    As to the subject's touchiness, I can't seem to find any posts in this thread mentioning any such opinions, so I don't know why you decried it in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SharkyMcShark View Post
    Well in fairness it is a fallacy. Not everything Takara does is better than Hasbro. Not everything Hasbro does is better than Takara.
    Whether something is "better" or not can be highly subjective because we all have different standards. I often talk about what I prefer, but that's not to say it's inherently better or worse. For example I much prefer the colours of Henkei Megatron over Classics Megatron's "Clown Colours." But that's not to say that Henkei Megatron's colours are inherently better or worse than Classics Megatron's. If someone happens to like bright clown colours then Classics Megatron would be better for them. When it comes to opinions it's really a matter of personal preference.

    If someone actually happens to prefer everything Takara does over Hasbro, then from that person's point of view, it's true. I personally think Hasbro's MP Starscream was better done than Takara's, and I also prefer Hasbro's MP Grimlock with the G1 toy-accurate colours and crown over TOMY's (some people think the Limited MP Grimlock looks nice, but I've personally never been a fan of Yomtov's colouring, so naturally a toy inspired by his colouring holds no appeal to me). But say if someone else preferred Takara's "Greenscream" (it does have arguably a more realistic looking colour scheme for the alt mode) as well as TOMY's version(s) of MP Grimlock - and let's just say this person preferred all the TakaraTOMY versions of every Transformer, even if there's no difference with the toy (maybe they prefer the packaging, collectable tech spec cards, catalogues etc.)... then how is it a 'fallacy' to them that everything TakaraTOMY does is better than Hasbro?

    We can argue that things are correct or incorrect when it comes to facts, but not so much with opinions due to the inherent subjectivity of the whole thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippo View Post
    I really do not like G2 Prime, though I seem to be the only one who thinks that.
    Yeah, you are a weird non-G2-Prime-liking freak...

    ...and so am I.

    It doesn't look like a bad toy (Rumble & Frenzy do, IMO), but it just doesn't quite work for me.

    Wheeljack & Scourge look good, though.


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    New G2 Prime Pictures (final product?)

    http://www.kotoys.com/forum/index.ph...sg6961#msg6961

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    i hate the grey gum plastic on g2 primes leg and front skirt. EW
    Mold detail is lost when they use that stuff. Hate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirge View Post
    Yeah, you are a weird non-G2-Prime-liking freak...

    ...and so am I.

    It doesn't look like a bad toy (Rumble & Frenzy do, IMO), but it just doesn't quite work for me.

    Wheeljack & Scourge look good, though.
    I'm also not a huge fan of the toy, partly it's those G2 colours. Nostalgia only goes so far for me with G2 toys, I want to see a Black Convoy/Scourge repaint.

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