Last edited by Tabias Prime; 20th December 2009 at 12:07 AM.
Sorry guys... but this is not actually true! It's an urban myth! Coke didn't invent the current image of Santa, but it's a myth that they did (because he appeared in their advertising and shares the same colours). It simply isn't true!
Here's a link to some pics of Santa (before Coke used him) in his "Coke" colours!
Robzy: I never said "invent", I said "emerged," as in the image was popularised by that campaign. I didn't say that Coke created it though. It's similar to how articulation in Transformers emerged from Beast Wars, but actually originated in G2.
I assumed that coke visualised the description of Mr Claus in "the Night Before Christmas" tale and made that popular.
Its quite interesting in the ways that things change over time. I have been looking at Movie 2 Ejector lately contemplating the "Satan" influence in him. Ejector has a tail, backwards jointed legs, little horns on his head and he like fire and as I was thinking of that comparison with the circa 1500/1600 view of Satan example pics here and here and it made me think of an article I read on Witchcraft and more specifially the witch hunts.
In the time of the wicth hunts, the church non-christians were often regarded as withes as they were Pagans (this is circa 600AD I think) and to aid in the negative depiction of Pagans, the church started to blend Satan and the Pagan god Pan together. The Pagans did worship Pan as a god (as well as others) and this blending with Satan made it seem in some peoples eyes that since they admitted to worshipping Pan (who now looked like Satan) they worshipped Satan = Witches.
Now I have noticed that in popular fiction, Satan is often represented as a suave dapper chap in a nice suit.
Gok, if you know of any links to original fairy tales before they were "Disney-ised" I would love to read them, I hear that Sleeping Beauty is a bit nastier than one is lead to believe...
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The Brothers Grimm are responsible for a lot of what regard as "Disneyfication" of fairy tales.
While they originally collected folk tales from around Germany, as their books became more popular later editions were edited to soften some of the more negative themes.
Find an early edition of their collected folk tales and you should get a fairly reliable version of what the 'originals' were like. Before the Brothers Grimm of course, few people recorded the stories as they were part of an oral tradition.
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