The Random Transformers Thoughts Thread

[GoktimusPrime]

I know that "Tacticon" is pronounced "Tack-tee-con," but my mind keeps on reading it as "Tact-eye-con."

[GoktimusPrime]

RE: Hasbro Pulse Con '22 reveals

NEEEEDLENOOOSE!!!

Yass! Now we will be able to collect the last G1 Decepticon Targetmaster in CHUG! The Combiner Wars one was a BotCon/Club exclusive; but so happy to see one being done for mass retail release! Legacy Pointblank is coming soon too, so now all we need to complete the G1 Targetmasters in CHUG are Landfill, Quickmix and Sureshot. Make it happen!

I'll definitely be grabbing Tarn, Breakdown, Scraphook and Lio Convoy (are they calling him Leo Prime?). Somewhat surprised to see that Breakdown isn't a retool of Dead End. Not sure how I feel about the car bonnet pointing upwards on the back instead of down.

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

RE: Hasbro Pulse Con '22 reveals

NEEEEDLENOOOSE!!!

Mah Dood.

I was thinking they need to drop Double TM Quake. But Quake got a headmaster recolour.

[DELTAprime]

Give me all the double TMs!

[GoktimusPrime]

I was thinking they need to drop Double TM Quake. But Quake got a headmaster recolour.

Quake could do with a better CHUG toy, especially one that's not a Headmaster (preferrably also a double Targetmaster like Scoop and Needlenose). But yeah, he's already done in CHUG. I'd rather Hasbro focus their attention on the remaining G1 characters who haven't received any 21st Century updates before revisiting paths already walked.

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

I've gotta say, for all that he's a Headmaster instead of a Targetmaster, TR Quake is a really nice toy. The mold and the colour scheme work well for him. I gave him Combiner Wars First Aid's axe for a dual-weapon setup and it really fits with his berserker characterisation.

[KELPIE]

Yeah I'm in the camp of Quake getting a better figure. Skipped the Headmaster version... however in a showing of rare agreement with Gok, he's probably a character I can wait for and put behind releases of other forgotten G1 characters.

[GoktimusPrime]

My non-BW/BM CHUG collection count is now on 499. Curious to see who number 500 is gonna be.

[GoktimusPrime]

I was wondering just how many G1 Transformers are there. I normally only think about Anglophone G1 for obvious reasons, but I was thinking about how many G1 TFs there would be if I included those released outside the Anglosphere (i.e. Japanese and Latin American). And the answer I came up with was 600.

Notes
+ I did not count variants (red and yellow Cliffjumper are just Cliffjumper)
+ I did not double-count identical toys that represent different characters (e.g. Getaway and Lightfoot)
+ I did count repaints/retools of the same toys that represent the same character. e.g. Hot Rod and Targetmaster Hot Rod are separate counts, as are Soundwave and Soundblaster etc.
Yes, yes, yes, I know that these are entirely subjective parameters, but they're the rules I set for myself for this count.

So here are the lists:

ANGLOPHONE G1 TRANSFORMERS (456)
Bluestreak
Jazz
Hound
Ironhide
Mirage
Prowl
Ratchet
Sideswipe
Sunstreaker
Trailbreaker
Wheeljack
Brawn
Bumblebee
Cliffjumper, Mazda Type ("Bumper")
Cliffjumper, Porsche Type
Gears
Huffer
Windcharger
Megatron
Soundwave
Buzzsaw
Laserbeak
Frenzy
Ravage
Rumble
Skywarp
Starscream
Thundercracker
Jetfire
Omega Supreme
Blaster
Grapple
Hoist
Inferno
Red Alert
Skids
Smokescreen
Tracks
Perceptor
Beachcomber
Cosmos
Powerglide
Seaspray
Warpath
Roadbuster
Whirl
Grimlock
Slag
Sludge
Snarl
Swoop
Topspin
Twin Twist
Camshaft
Downshift
Overdrive
Powerdasher (Aragon)
Powerdasher (Cromar)
Powerdasher (Zetar)
Shockwave
Dirge
Ramjet
Thrust
Astrotrain
Blitzwing
Bombshell
Kickback
Shrapnel
Barrage
Chop Shop
Ransack
Venom
Bonecrusher
Long Haul
Hook
Mixmaster
Scavenger
Scrapper
Mini Spy (Buggy)
Mini Spy (Porsche)
Mini Spy (Jeep)
Mini Spy (Toyota)
Rodimus Prime
Ultra Magnus
Wreck Gar
Blurr
Hot Rod
Kup
Broadside
Sandstorm
Springer
Metroplex
Sky Lynx
Hubcap
Outback
Pipes
Swerve
Tailgate
Wheelie
Eject
Ramhorn
Rewind
Steeljaw
Air Raid
Fireflight
Silverbolt
Skydive
Slingshot
Blades
First Aid
Groove
Hot Spot
Streetwise
Galvatron
Cyclonus
Scourge
Octane
Gnaw
Trypticon
Runabout
Runamuck
Breakdown
Dead End
Drag Strip
Motormaster
Wildrider
Blast-Off
Brawl
Onslaught
Swindle
Vortex
Divebomb
Headstrong
Rampage
Razorclaw
Tantrum
Ratbat
Spectro
Spyglass
Viewfinder
Fortress Maximus
Brainstorm
Chromedome
Hardhead
Highbrow
Blurr (Targetmaster)
Hot Rod (Targetmaster)
Kup (Targetmaster)
Crosshairs
Pointblank
Sureshot
Cloudraker
Fastlane
Punch/Counterpunch
Doublecross
Grotusque
Repugnus
Afterburner
Lightspeed
Nosecone
Scattershot
Strafe
Chase
Freeway
Goldbug
Rollbar
Searchlight
Wideload
Scorponok
Apeface
Mindwipe
Skullcruncher
Snapdragon
Weirdwolf
Cyclonus (Targetmaster)
Scourge (Targetmaster)
Misfire
Slugslinger
Triggerhappy
Sixshot
Overkill
Slugfest
Pounce
Wingspan
Battletrap
Flywheels
Hun-Grrr
Blot
Cutthroat
Rippersnapper
Sinnertwin
Optimus Prime (Powermaster)
Getaway
Joyride
Slapdash
Hosehead
Nightbeat
Siren
Landfill
Quickmix
Scoop
Catilla
Chainclaw
Cloudburst
Groundbreaker
Gunrunner
Landmine
Sky High
Splashdown
Waverider
Quickswitch
Backstreet
Dogfight
Override
Fizzle
Sizzle
Guzzle
Grand Slam
Raindance
Beastbox
Squawktalk
Darkwing
Dreadwind
Doubledealer
Fangry
Horri-Bull
Squeezeplay
Needlenose
Quake
Spinister
Bomb-Burst
Bugly
Carnivac
Finback
Iguanus
Roadgrabber
Skullgrin
Snarler
Submarauder
Crankcase
Ruckus
Windsweeper
Cindersaur
Flamefeather
Sparkstalker
Snaptrap
Tentakil
Nautilator
Seawing
Skalor
Overbite
Bumblebee (Pretender)
Grimlock (Pretender)
Jazz (Pretender)
Doubleheader
Longtooth
Pincher
Crossblades
Vroom
Skyhammer
Big Shot
Flak
Sidetrack
Sunrunner
High Jump
Mudslinger
Powertrain
Tote
Freewheeler
Roadhandler
Swindler
Tailspin
Fixit
Red Hot
Seawatch
Stakeout
Erector
Overload
Hot House
Ironworks
Countdown
Groundshaker
Thunderwing
Starscream (Pretender)
Bludgeon
Octopunch
Stranglehold
Birdbrain
Bristleback
Icepick
Scowl
Slog
Wildfly
Roadblock
Nightflight
Storm Cloud
Tailwind
Whisper
Blackjack
Detour
Hyperdrive
Roadhugger
Flattop
Roughstuff
Airwave
Greasepit
Skyhopper
Skystalker
Optimus Prime (Action Master)
Blaster (Action Master)
Bumblebee (Action Master)
Grimlock (Action Master)
Inferno (Action Master)
Jackpot
Jazz (Action Master)
Kick-Off
Mainframe
Over-Run
Prowl (Action Master)
Rad
Rollout
Skyfall
Snarl (Action Master)
Sprocket
Wheeljack (Action Master)
Gusher
Pipeline
Retro
Surge
Crumble
Groundpounder
Neutro
Takedown
Blaze Master
Eagle Eye
Sky High (Micromaster)
Tread Bolt
Big Daddy
Greaser
Hubs
Trip-Up
Big Hauler
Heavy Tread
Hydraulic
Slow Poke
Oiler
Power Run
Roadburner
Slide
Strikedown
Wheel Blaze
Barrage (Micromaster)
Blastmaster
Heave
Missilemaster
Moonrock
Phaser
Full-Barrel
Overflow
Axer
Banzai-Tron
Devastator (Action Master)
Gutcruncher
Krok
Megatron (Action Master)
Shockwave (Action Master)
Soundwave (Action Master)
Starscream (Action Master)
Treadshot
Bombshock
Dropshot
Growl
Tracer
Barricade
Ground Hog
Motorhead
Roller Force
Blackout
Spaceshot
Meltdown
Half-Track
Direct-Hit
Powerpunch
Fireshot
Vanquish
Excavator
Grit
Hammer
Knockout
Sledge
Stonecruncher
Cement-Head
Terror-Tread
Powerflash
Sideswipe (Action Master)
Tracks (Action Master)
Circuit
Rumbler
Omega Spreem
Windmill
Gripper
Flame
Lightspeed (Motorvator)
Bombshell (Action Master)
Charger
Double Punch
Slicer
Take-Off
Thundercracker (Action Master)
Turbo Master
Overlord
Boss
Flash
Hurricane
Rotorstorm
Scorch
Thunderclash
Rescue Force
Rescue Force 1
Rescue Force 2
Rescue Force 3
Falcon
Skydive (Predator)
Skyquake
Snare
Stalker
Talon
Constructicon (bulldozer)
Constructicon (cement mixer)
Constructicon (crane)
Constructicon (dump truck)
Constructicon (payloader)
Constructicon (steamshovel)
Pyro/Spark
Deftwing
Ironfist
Aquafend
Deluge
Jetstorm
Speedstream
Rapido
Skram
Hot Rider/Turbofire
Zap/Windbreaker
Colossus/Clench
Calcar
Fearswoop
Hawk/Eagle Eye
Snipe/Afterburner
Terradive
Tornado/Windrazor
Aquablast
Drench
Hydradread
Rage

JAPANESE G1 TRANSFORMERS (+127)
Artfire
Stepper
Dile
Graphy
Noise
Saur
Shouki
Getsuei
Yukikaze
Suiken
Seizan
Kaen
Twincast
Kirk
Loafer
Rodney
Leoneh
Toraizer
Shuffler
Soundblaster
Metal Hawk
Go Shooter
Minerva
Ranger
Ginrai
Godbomber
Double Clouder
Grand Maximus
Sixknight
Hardspark
Hotspark
Wildspark
Aquastar
Vollet
Zetca
Guzzle
Javil
Hydra
Buster
Browning
Black Zarak
Wing
Waver
Dash
Tacker
Mach
Tackle
Blacker
Lustre
Braver
Star Sabre
Greatshot
Galaxy Shuttle (also released in Italy)
Victory Leo
Black Shadow
Blue Bacchus
Goryu
Gairyu
Kakuryu
Doryu
Yokuryu
Rairyu
Leozack
Guyhawk
Hellbat
Jallguar
Killbison
Drillhorn
Deathsaurus
Gunlift
Powerbomb
Sidetrack
Sunrunner
Gingham
Black Heat
Dead Hour
Roadhugger
Roadjet
Landshaker
Sky Hyper
Dai Atlas
Sonic Bomber
Roadfire
Speeder
Sonic
Drillbuster
Rabbicrater
Metro Titan
Metrobomb
Sky Garry
D-Go
Alan
Joe
Leaf
Night
Spark
Grandus
Star Convoy
Hot Rod (Micromaster)
Crushbull
Digger
Gran Arm
Iron Lift
Mixing
Treader
Chain Gun
Falcon
Flanker
Missile Run
Raker
Supersonic
Road Police
Circuit
Discharge
Glide
Neo Wheel
Cy-Reign
Fire Chief
Streetstar
Fly Up
Sparkride
Safety
Great Cannon
Leeland
Sandstorm
Shuttle Gunner
Target Hawk

LATIN AMERICAN G1 (+17)
Camaro (Robocar)
Camaro (Malignus)
Carrera (Robocar, Optimus)
Jipe (Robocar)
Jipe (Malignus)
Pick-Up (Robocar)
Pick-Up (Malignus)
Sedan
Volks
Salt-Man X
Salt-Man Z
Esporte
Jipe (Eletrix)
Porsche
Pick-Up (Bat-Robo)
Turbo
Radio AM Robot

456 + 127 + 17 = 600

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So for me, I have a...

95% complete Anglo G1 collection
42% complete Japanese G1 collection (admittedly most of these are reissues)
0% complete Latin American G1 collection
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81% complete G1 collection

[DELTAprime]

I was just thinking about repaints of the G1 SS figures. Given how many smaller run repaints and exclusives Hasbro like to churn out these days it seems odd to me we haven't seen any sign of repaints like Action Master Jazz and Starscream or G2 Dinobots that are major departures from their normal G1 animation model and toy colouring.

It might not be a tonne of money, but there is some money being left on the table.