Government finally asking if gamers want an R rating

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Michael Atkinson says "Gamers scarier than bikers"

Unfortunately, the gamers that do send him threatening letters, or stalking him, only harms our cause to get an R18 rating for games.

Still, the guys a tosser.

And I just read the above posts as well, the whole "small breasted woman porn" because they look too much like children is a complete bollocks.

[kup]

Michael Atkinson says "Gamers scarier than bikers"

Unfortunately, the gamers that do send him threatening letters, or stalking him, only harms our cause to get an R18 rating for games.

Still, the guys a tosser.

And I just read the above posts as well, the whole "small breasted woman porn" because they look too much like children is a complete bollocks.

Politicans Scarier Than Gamers

[Autocon]

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[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Michael Atkinson says "Gamers scarier than bikers"

Unfortunately, the gamers that do send him threatening letters, or stalking him, only harms our cause to get an R18 rating for games.

Still, the guys a tosser.

And I just read the above posts as well, the whole "small breasted woman porn" because they look too much like children is a complete bollocks.

I fear this will go nowhere, even with the discussion paper. Needing a 100% consesnsus to change is probably not going to happen, mainly due to Atkinson's resolute refusal to accept the many logical arguments of the opposing side. Its disconcerting that he is even a politician with such a blinkered closed view of any subject.

One cant have a discussion to sort out an issue if the other side completely refuses to acknowledge ones view...

Found an anti- R18 site. Thanks to gamespot. They bust out the same rubbish as Atkinson. Dont these people realise that sexual content would eb refused anyway? Yet again they whip out Rapelay as an example. *sigh* Morons, complete morons. No idea at all....

[DarkHyren]

Women in porn with small breasts look too much like children.

And next thing you know guys will be arrested for dating women with small breasts -_-
The government is trying to get a foothold so they can eventually ban all porn, I'm certain of that.

On the subject, I would welcome a R18+ rating, maybe then we can get full versions of games rather then cut ones.
Game developers will be able to make games without trying to sneak a R rated game in under a MA rating or worrying if it will upset some prude/moral psycho/priest somewhere.

Also it would keep the really violent games away from some children and then we maybe won't have so many of the little criminals running around because their idiot of a parent let them have bad games because "it's only rated M/MA".
No matter how bad a parent they are at least a few of them won't buy their little troublemakers really violent games if the game is rated R.

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

SO true. Many parents dont understand the MA rating or take it seriously, but most understand the seriousness of an R rating.

IMO the current ratings set up is pretty weak, the "M" rating is sooooooo broad that a vast majority of games from "mild" to "kind of strong" content fits in.

The MA with the whole "Parent or legal guardian" clause is just a joke. Yay or nay. Know what I mean? Set some definate guidelines on age. They can either buy/see or not. How many shops actually check if a kid's elder is their legal guardian or not? Ridiculous


Only 7 days to get those submissions in now.

ends on the 28th February

[Dkaris]

SO true. Many parents dont understand the MA rating or take it seriously, but most understand the seriousness of an R rating.

IMO the current ratings set up is pretty weak, the "M" rating is sooooooo broad that a vast majority of games from "mild" to "kind of strong" content fits in.

The MA with the whole "Parent or legal guardian" clause is just a joke. Yay or nay. Know what I mean? Set some definate guidelines on age. They can either buy/see or not. How many shops actually check if a kid's elder is their legal guardian or not? Ridiculous


Only 7 days to get those submissions in now.

ends on the 28th February

I think another thing with ratings like MA though, is how often to retailers enforce them? I dont know about you guys but there have been numerous times ive been in a que and the sales person has sold MA games like modern warfare 2 to a kid who is no where near 15. I dont see retailers asking these kids for their ID or see any signs up saying that MA games will not be sold to kids under 15 years. =/

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16,000 signatures collected for R18+ rating petition

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Yea I saw that in the MX yesterday, but will it be enough? It did say the average gamer's age was 30 and that adults should have the right to decide what games they want to play. But critics argue the move would see an increase in the video-game violence and expose children to harsh content.

It should be enforced that you would have to show ID if they suspect you look underage, much like buying alcohol or porn

I can't see that children will see more violence than what they already see. The parents should be governing what they watch or play.

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Exactly. Although the discussion paper is just that, discussing the prospect of an R rating. So its still a way off, but at least momentum is gathering.

I think the amount of violent media that is allowed in will be negligible, as most of the time, the games that are refused classification just change something minor and re-apply and make it in the MA rating. Except for left for dead 2. Even then, I suspect the makers may have been making a point with the amount they cut. From the admittedly limited footage I have seen of the Aus verison, it looks like an M game now...