The Doctor Who thread

[UltraMarginal]

You're the third person I know that thought this, but no: Paul McGann's Dcotor (8th, from the telemovie) became the "War Doctor" fought the Time War, who then became the 9th Doctor (Christopher Eccleston, you see a glimpse of his features in the special during the regeneration) and almost immediately met Rose Tyler in the first ep of the current run. The period between the telemovie and the current series is where the gap for the Time War and War Doctor exists.

Now I'm back to confused, So Hurts Doctor is not the original incarnation of the doctor? (pre-doctor who show) I was always under the impression that the time wars was something that occurred prior to "Dr Who" which led to the doctor being the only one.

[Paulbot]

Now I'm back to confused, So Hurts Doctor is not the original incarnation of the doctor? (pre-doctor who show) I was always under the impression that the time wars was something that occurred prior to "Dr Who" which led to the doctor being the only one.

That's right, he's not the first. Until the show came back in 2005 there were lots of Time Lords doing their thing. The Time War happened while the show wasn't on air.

But, if you've only watched the show since the beginning of 2005 series, then yes John Hurt's doctor came before all the ones that have been the stars of the show since (Chris Eccelston, David Tennant, Matt Smith). (It's just that the everything in the classic series and all those other versions of the Doctor happened first, before the Time War)

[griffin]

Maybe this might help visualise it better....

Original series of Doctor Who (1963-1989)
1st - William Hartnell (and Richard Hurndall in the 5 Doctors)
2nd - Patrick Troughton
3rd - Jon Pertwee
4th - Tom Baker
5th - Peter Davison
6th - Colin Baker
7th - Silvestor McCoy

Doctor Who movie (1996)
8th - Paul McGann (it was hoped the Movie would spawn a new series)

The Time War occurs after the Movie, but during this Doctor's incarnation.

(McGann re-appears in the 2013 mini-sode "Night of the Doctor", which showed the end of the Time War, and him regenerating into John Hurt)

9th - John Hurt (first revealed in early 2013 in "Name of the Doctor" and slotted in as the "real" 9th Doctor, based on the regeneration events of the "Night of the Doctor")

(Hurt is then shown to regenerate into Christopher Eccelston at the end of "Day of the Doctor"

New series of Doctor Who (2005-present)
10th - Christopher Eccelston (was 9th before the 2013 revelation that Hurt is the 9th)
11th - David Tennant (was 10th before the 2013 revelation that Hurt is the 9th)
12th - Matt Smith (was 11th before the 2013 revelation that Hurt is the 9th)
13th - Peter Capaldi (would have been 12th, if he was introduced before Hurt was revealed as the 9th)


Did that help at all, or just make it more confusing?


(how geeky am I for being able to list all the actors for the Doctor from memory and in order... )

[Demonac]

1st - William Hartnell (and Richard Hurndall in the 3 Doctors)

(how geeky am I for being able to list all the actors for the Doctor from memory and in order... )

Not geeky enough. Richard Hurndall was in The 5 Doctors.

[UltraMarginal]

Maybe this might help visualise it better....

Original series of Doctor Who (1963-1989)
1st - William Hartnell (and Richard Hurndall in the 3 Doctors)
2nd - Patrick Troughton
3rd - Jon Pertwee
4th - Tom Baker
5th - Peter Davison
6th - Colin Baker
7th - Silvestor McCoy

Doctor Who movie (1996)
8th - Paul McGann (it was hoped the Movie would spawn a new series)

The Time War occurs after the Movie, but during this Doctor's incarnation.

(McGann re-appears in the 2013 mini-sode "Night of the Doctor", which showed the end of the Time War, and him regenerating into John Hurt)

9th - John Hurt (first revealed in early 2013 in "Name of the Doctor" and slotted in as the "real" 9th Doctor, based on the regeneration events of the "Night of the Doctor")

(Hurt is then shown to regenerate into Christopher Eccelston at the end of "Day of the Doctor"

New series of Doctor Who (2005-present)
10th - Christopher Eccelston (was 9th before the 2013 revelation that Hurt is the 9th)
11th - David Tennant (was 10th before the 2013 revelation that Hurt is the 9th)
12th - Matt Smith (was 11th before the 2013 revelation that Hurt is the 9th)
13th - Peter Capaldi (would have been 12th, if he was introduced before Hurt was revealed as the 9th)


Did that help at all, or just make it more confusing?


(how geeky am I for being able to list all the actors for the Doctor from memory and in order... )

That actually helps a lot. thank you.

Not geeky enough. Richard Hurndall was in The 5 Doctors.

Showoff

[GoktimusPrime]

Yeah, to me the Time Wars has always felt like a canonical excuse for the Doctor's years of absence between the 1996 movie and 2005 new series.

Not geeky enough. Richard Hurndall was in The 5 Doctors.

And don't forget Peter Cushing as "Doctor Who."
He'd be pretty damn awesome as the War Doctor.
</cheek>

[griffin]

Not geeky enough. Richard Hurndall was in The 5 Doctors.

Bugger me... I knew there'd be something, that someone like you would make sure was pointed out.
I was too busy making sure I got all those dates right and posting it in a hurry, I totally missed checking every detail.

[Paul Agnew]

And then there are the supposed 'previous incarnations' of The Doctor as witnessed in "The Brain Of Morbius". But the less said of that, the better.

[UltraMarginal]

Bugger me... I knew there'd be something, that someone like you would make sure was pointed out.
I was too busy making sure I got all those dates right and posting it in a hurry, I totally missed checking every detail.

Obviously you''re not a "True Fan"

I was impressed. and all the other little tidbits that people keep adding to this conversation are makeing me want to go back and watch all the doctor Who I've missed, which is most of the original material.

I just wish it would be released as seasons rather than story arcs so My Chronological Ordering needs could be easily satisfied.

[Hursticon]

I just wish it would be released as seasons rather than story arcs so My Chronological Ordering needs could be easily satisfied.

My feelings exactly UM; I know this is pretty much an impossibility with the 1st two Doctors, but from Pertwee forward - If Star Trek can release each and every episode in seasonal offerings and sell extremely well, I don't see why The Doctor couldn't be.