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    I actually wish after Cheetor and Dinobot, they'd continue with Rattrap and Rhinox...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle View Post
    I actually wish after Cheetor and Dinobot, they'd continue with Rattrap and Rhinox...
    That would be utter heaven. I've longed for a better Rhinox than the original for a long time now!

    I think it was mentioned by a Hasbro designer that he'd love to do a Rhinox after the movie line and that it'd be a Voyager size. I can't wait for the movie to be over (which feels quite strange to say )
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    In response to people griping at non-Classics in Universe: Dudes, they're just toys. At least Hasbro isn't forcing them into a singular mixed continuity like what is happening in Henkei.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FFN View Post
    In response to people griping at non-Classics in Universe: Dudes, they're just toys. At least Hasbro isn't forcing them into a singular mixed continuity like what is happening in Henkei.
    Who is gripping on non-Classics in Universe?

    All that its being said is that the continuity or toy 'subsections' of Universe are becoming a little blurred when it comes to what is what.

    Like for example, are Universe Beast Wars and Hot Shot Classics? They are not repaints but new molds. It could be argued that they are 25th Anniversary but so are other new mold G1 character toys.

    Yeah the Japanese are making their own weird things but the comics so far appear to be no less weird than their previous G1 mangas although I am curious to see what craziness they come up with to justify the Beast Wars Henkei characters.

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    The problem isn't Hasbro. The problem is the fandom treating Universe as though it's entirely Cassics, hence the intense anger and feeling of resentment that emanates when a non-Classics mold is redecoed in this line.

    As for blurring, if people don't know, they won't care so long as they like the toy. If they do know, then they won't be confused over the different "series".

    Cheetor is Beast Wars Series and Hot Shot is Armada Series, mainly as a point for collector fans to differentiate the continuities the toys come from. Kids won't care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FFN View Post
    The problem isn't Hasbro. The problem is the fandom treating Universe as though it's entirely Cassics, hence the intense anger and feeling of resentment that emanates when a non-Classics mold is redecoed in this line.

    As for blurring, if people don't know, they won't care so long as they like the toy. If they do know, then they won't be confused over the different "series".

    Cheetor is Beast Wars Series and Hot Shot is Armada Series, mainly as a point for collector fans to differentiate the continuities the toys come from. Kids won't care.
    Even with people sorting out the different line/continuities themselves, that doesn't make Hasbro's execution less messy. It would have been better if they just called all the toys just 'Universe' instead of labeling some toys as 'Classics' or 'Armada' series while at the same time leaving several others in obscurity.

    Personally, I have liked several of the Universe repaints as some are well thought out. My only complaints with the repaints is that they should use more variety in their extensive mold library as too many repaints of the same mold are reoccurring. My other complain would be their insistence on repainting large and very new molds into micromaster characters although this is more of a personal dislike at the approach rather than something clearly wrong or lazy.

    Aside from that, they have done a reasonably good job in the repaint department when compared to the original Universe or movie/Animated repaints.

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    Yeah, but my point still stands, if you know what Armada and G1 means, you'll understand and not be confused. If you don't, then you won't care and will just buy whatever you like.

    Me, I like mixing my toys anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FFN View Post
    Yeah, but my point still stands, if you know what Armada and G1 means, you'll understand and not be confused. If you don't, then you won't care and will just buy whatever you like.
    Agreed absolutely. A lot of the Classics 2.0 toys are meant to stand out on their own. It's not longer a G1 solely series and Hasbro has gone to some degree to do that by adding a label on the back of their packaging to indicate what era they come from - even repaints.

    But FFN got it right. If you know, it adds something for ur appreciation. If you don't know, your ignorance won't mean you've lost anything.

    I think the Takara version is much worse if they combine the continuities. Sounds like Robot Masters...

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    Me, I like mixing my toys anyway.
    I do too. I mix a lot of Movie/Cybertron/Classics 1.0-2.0, Energon around a lot.
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    Any links to the comic to then really get where the excitement comes from? That one panel in the wiki is just so "so what"?
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