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Old 21st April 2017, 06:24 PM
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This is poor, lazy policy from the Lib govt. This runs counter to their whole matra about individual empowerment, the power of the marketplace, free market, etc.
Business as usual, in other words.
If it's any consolation, there's pretty good odds they'll quietly shelve this latest brain fart after the election - especially if it starts causing them polling pain. Chances are it's all about padding out the upcoming Budget bottom line - it's not actually supposed to work (whether it does or not is irrelevant), as long as they can use the phantom savings/revenue to make their ongoing fiscal incompetence look a little less dismal.

"Oh yeah, Amazon and eBay will totally do all the hard work for us, and it'll bring in Eleventy Billion Dollars worth of extra GST revenue!"
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Old 21st April 2017, 08:26 PM
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That pretty much then sums up how dumb Ebay has gotten. They are a service. If they just connected, then why are they charging a fee?

Those executives must either be extraordinarily dense, or really are that insulting to the readers intelligence.

Got An Australian ABN and fall within a certain business bracket? Then you pay tax. Those overseas retailers do not qualify for an Australian ABN.

Bottom line, Ebay already pay gst and company tax on their operations locally. If the government wants to collect gst from overseas persons, then they can charge it as it enters the country. Wait, they already do, on an amount that is deemed "worth doing it for".

Is Gerry going to pay gst for a purchase from an overseas entity? Hells not. Where's the playing field that needs levelling? Does he pay gst for locally sourced product? Yes. He then sells that item and the gst collected cancels the gst he paid. He's not out of pocket at all.
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Old 21st April 2017, 09:35 PM
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Everyone is acting like this is the final law and it's 100% going into effect. Calm down, even if they do introduce a law to collect GST online it will be written in such a way as to not piss of retailers and therefore voters that use said retailers. (unless the government really wants to get fired at the next election)
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Old 23rd April 2017, 10:34 AM
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Everyone is acting like this is the final law and it's 100% going into effect. Calm down, even if they do introduce a law to collect GST online it will be written in such a way as to not piss of retailers and therefore voters that use said retailers. (unless the government really wants to get fired at the next election)
I quite respectfully am willing to stand corrected but my understanding was that The Treasurer can introduce that into the Budget and then the budget measures have to be passed by both houses of Parliament?

So it's not quite law (even the measure is in the budget) as you say DELTAprime?
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Old 23rd April 2017, 04:08 PM
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ATO website states it will be effective from 1 July 2017. Perhaps this will be the case if passed by the Senate.
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Old 23rd April 2017, 11:41 PM
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Looks like Amazon, Alibaba (and associated sites like AliExpress) and Etsy are joining eBay's stand against the scam

http://archive.is/fy3wm
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Looks like Amazon, Alibaba (and associated sites like AliExpress) and Etsy are joining eBay's stand against the scam

http://archive.is/fy3wm
Ah snap, the tax changes and eBay's response was part of the reason why I was looking forward to Amazon and Alibaba setting up shop here.
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Old 24th April 2017, 06:29 PM
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Gerry should focus more on paying his staff for the hours they work, public holiday, stock takes, Friday nights and others before he cries foul on anybody else.
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ATO website states it will be effective from 1 July 2017. Perhaps this will be the case if passed by the Senate.
Bill is currently before the Senate with the Committee to report by 9 May 2017 (ie Budget night). This will highly likely be passed unless Labor think there is enough political capital in opposing.

I do not blame Ebay, or any other foreign retailer, for opposing legislation that would require them to withhold GST and remit on behalf of another party. Apart from the cost associated with compliance likely being extraordinary, it is ridiculous to think that this measure will actual result in enough revenue to make it worthwhile.
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it is ridiculous to think that this measure will actual result in enough revenue to make it worthwhile.
In 2009,a report commissioned for the govt stated the potential revenue from this measure was outweighed by the enforcement costs.

What has changed since as far as that from then to now I am unaware of.
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