Movie Review - Transformers 3 : Dark of the Moon (spoilers)

[SMHFConvoy]

Upset with Bay killing everything as per usual, the only way i can see this coming back now is the involvemnet of Unicron or the quintessons to bring in galvatron scourge cyclonus etc. A few more jets and some dinobots, ultra magnus and hot rod wouldn't go astray either. But very happy with Shockwave.

Yeah most of the main bots were fragged but hey if there's a TF4 at least they can bring in some new blood.

[jaina85]

i'm sorry if this has already been explained, buut..

in the second movie megatron worked for the fallen and wouldve wiped out all the humans? so how could his plan all along have been to work with sentinel to enslave us?

.. and if the primes killed themselves to stop the fallen originally way back when, then why is a prime happy to enslave us now?

[Ace]

because the script said so?

[Hursticon]

Never hurts to have a backup plan, besides, it was only a matter of time before Megatron usurped The Fallen anyway.

[GoktimusPrime]

in the second movie megatron worked for the fallen and wouldve wiped out all the humans? so how could his plan all along have been to work with sentinel to enslave us?

Remember that fairly early on in the conflict, The Fallen had already left Cybertron aboard the Nemesis with a massive compliment of Decepticons (including Soundwave) to find the Matrix. Megatron was ordered to stay behind on Cybertron to defend the AllSpark and battle the Autobots. During this time, Megatron had been out of contact with the Nemesis and her crew; for all he knew, they could have all been dead. So faced with that possibility, he might have agreed to making a secret pact with Sentinel Prime. After all, without The Fallen they may never find a Star Harvester - and even if they did, without the Matrix, they wouldn't even be able to activate it.

And if The Fallen turned to be alive later, then Megatron could easily betray Sentinel Prime anyway. But as it turned out, the Ark was inadvertently destroyed by Starscream (who wasn't aware of the pact -- very few would've known other than Sentinel and Megatron) -- Megatron didn't make contact with The Fallen again until after the Autobots executed their last desperate plan; launching the AllSpark Cube into space. It was during his chase of the AllSpark that Megatron detected the Nemesis' distress signal and was ordered by The Fallen to continue pursuing the Cube.

.. and if the primes killed themselves to stop the fallen originally way back when, then why is a prime happy to enslave us now?

Sentinel Prime's core morality is based on utilitarianism, i.e. "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few." He viewed the enslavement of humanity as being a necessary sacrifice in order to save Cybertron and the entire Transformers race (which one would assume must have a much greater population than that of humanity in order to justify his actions... unless Sentinel's morals has changed (or "corrupted" if you want to call it that) to consequentialism (the ends justify the means) - which is more similar to Megatron's brand of morality (but remembering that Megatron was also Sentinel's mentor too - this was before Megatron came in contact with the Fallen who secretly became his new master).

[SharkyMcShark]

Just got sent this by a mate.

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[Deceptic0ns]

Just got sent this by a mate.

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Umm, WTF?

[SharkyMcShark]

Bay loves re using shots - the carrier group scene from RotF was from Pearl Harbour

[Bartrim]

Bay loves re using shots - the carrier group scene from RotF was from Pearl Harbour

He's not the first... He wont be the last.

[i_amtrunks]

So I went into the film with zero expectations (barring lots of explosions) and actually came away from the film not feeling angry, bitter or feeling like I was going to have an anuerism.

The first portion of the film (until Sentinel goes haywire) was really enjoyable, the humour segments worked, without taking over, and the story was interesting and developed nicely. Sure there were more than a few small sections that made little to no sense (Megatron playing with elephants anyone?)

But after the betrayal and death of one of the better characters, the movie got stale quick. The whole driller subplot, including the building scene could have been entirely removed with no ill effects, and the Decepticons as a whole did nothing of worth. Shockwave's one line was very disappointing, Starscream had a terribly lame death (for a terribly bad written "character"), and Soundwave and Megatron were also dispatched far too easily.

The last 5 or so minutes of the film were easily the worst, anyone who likes their Prime all "G1" and righteous will not like how callous he is in the final battle, and how anticlimatic it is. The post credit scene with Simmons was a tacky and rather dissapointing last scene for the franchise.

Overall the movie was too long, and it still suffered from similar problems that plagued its predecessors where there was far too little character development for any characters, everyone got a line or two, and that was about it. I dont think the movie should have delved into everyones backstory but more than "oi we built the ship" would have been nice.

DotM is a pretty decent popcrn flick, and was easily the best in the trilogy in terms of appearance, the 3d shots made Bay keep the camera steady, so you actually got to see the fighting. If you can ignore the plotholes, continuity errors and ogling shots, its a pretty good film, maybe just not for the younger ones, there is lots of graphic violence and language.