Transformers Venting thread!

[Sinnertwin]

I was chatting up a girl, I found out she liked transformers so we had a discussion and I asked her whats your fav g1 character so she replied: What is G1? Is it the first movie



:(

How dare she?!

[Trent]

I was chatting up a girl, I found out she liked transformers so we had a discussion and I asked her whats your fav g1 character so she replied: What is G1? Is it the first movie



:(

Well you'll just have to educate her then.

[Handsprime]

I was chatting up a girl, I found out she liked transformers so we had a discussion and I asked her whats your fav g1 character so she replied: What is G1? Is it the first movie



:(

Plot Twist, she was talking about the 1986 film and you're upset that its not the 2007 movie :p

[jazzcomp]

I was chatting up a girl, I found out she liked transformers so we had a discussion and I asked her whats your fav g1 character so she replied: What is G1? Is it the first movie



:(
Just means she won't touch your G1 toys as she doesn't know about them. :)
Trev's right on one hand, she's young. :)

[UltimateGalvatron]

I was chatting up a girl, I found out she liked transformers so we had a discussion and I asked her whats your fav g1 character so she replied: What is G1? Is it the first movie



:(

Young love. ;)

[UltraMarginal]

I was chatting up a girl, I found out she liked transformers so we had a discussion and I asked her whats your fav g1 character so she replied: What is G1? Is it the first movie



:(

That means she's too young for you and suddenly you're a creepy old guy.:D:cool:

[Jaxius._]

That means she's too young for you and suddenly you're a creepy old guy.:D:cool:

Mentally I guess so

Physically I am much younger than most on these boards

[UltraMarginal]

Mentally I guess so

Physically I am much younger than most on these boards

:(
I'm old. :cool:

[Trent]

:(
I'm old. :cool:

Yes. Very.

[UltimateGalvatron]

I just realised how ugly the Marvel G1 and G2 art is. The G2 art is ok, but I can't STAND the early G1 Comics. Especially in the 1st issue, where the characters looked liked their toys rather then their comic form. I know that wasn't Marvels fault as the cartoon hadn't come out yet, but still, yuck :(

[UltraMarginal]

Yes. Very.

you can talk!:rolleyes::D

[GoktimusPrime]

*sigh* All 3 of the latest issues of Transformers contain spelling & grammar mistakes. :eek: I enjoyed the stories overall (which I'll elaborate more in the relevant review threads), but seeing continued simple mistakes in the IDW comics just adds a sour aftertaste. They really need to hire a native English speaker to proof-read their writing.

[DELTAprime]

*sigh* All 3 of the latest issues of Transformers contain spelling & grammar mistakes. :eek: I enjoyed the stories overall (which I'll elaborate more in the relevant review threads), but see continued simple mistakes in the IDW comics just adds a sour aftertaste. They really need to hire a native English speaker to proof-read their writing.

A native English speaker? Are they outsourcing their writing to China?

[Sinnertwin]

*sigh* All 3 of the latest issues of Transformers contain spelling & grammar mistakes. :eek: I enjoyed the stories overall (which I'll elaborate more in the relevant review threads), but see continued simple mistakes in the IDW comics just adds a sour aftertaste. They really need to hire a native English speaker to proof-read their writing.

?

[GoktimusPrime]

?
D'oh! Fix'd. :)

[prjkt]

I have to say that was a pretty hilarious case of irony with that post there Gok

[GoktimusPrime]

I have to say that was a pretty hilarious case of irony with that post there Gok
But that demonstrates the simply process of how corrections can be detected and corrected. I wrote a piece of text, Sinnertwin detected an error and it was corrected. All in the span of 88 minutes.

Author creates text.
Editor proof-reads text and highlights any mistakes.
Mistakes are corrected.
Text is published.

And these are people who are being paid to write, and the audience is also paying money to read their writing! :eek: Professional writers and editors who are making a living from their writing should absolutely be maintaining a higher standard than people casually typing on the internet! :o

[Zommael]

But that demonstrates the simply process of how corrections can be detected and corrected. I wrote a piece of text, Sinnertwin detected an error and it was corrected. All in the span of 88 minutes.

Author creates text.
Editor proof-reads text and highlights any mistakes.
Mistakes are corrected.
Text is published.

And these are people who are being paid to write, and the audience is also paying money to read their writing! :eek: Professional writers and editors who are making a living from their writing should absolutely be maintaining a higher standard than people casually typing on the internet! :o

I hope that you do bear this in mind before making these posts, but what you or I might consider an error might barely register as a stylistic choice to others. I don't know what errors you are picking up as you haven't posted examples, but they can't be any worse than Marvel's consistent incorrect usage of the word "insure", or some posters on this board who write *shudder* "could of".

[Mythirax]

The errors don't phase me. So long as they keep the comics coming, I'm a happy chap :D

[GoktimusPrime]

I hope that you do bear this in mind before making these posts, but what you or I might consider an error might barely register as a stylistic choice to others. I don't know what errors you are picking up as you haven't posted examples, but they can't be any worse than Marvel's consistent incorrect usage of the word "insure", or some posters on this board who write *shudder* "could of".
I'm not talking about stylistic choices, such as the way that the Dinobots speak in a 'rough' manner of speech. I'm talking about things which are just wrong, and cannot be justified even through the stylistic speech mannerism of the character.

Admittedly none of them are as bad as using a preposition as a verb (e.g. "could of"), but some of them do involve just using the wrong verb. Others are spelling errors and other types of incorrect grammar usage. For example, in MTMTE #47, Whirl says, "I've having "second thoughts."". The verb "having" is incorrectly used in the present continuous tense. In order for Whirl to emphasise the importance of his actions, the verb should be in the past tense, i.e. "I've had "second thoughts."" Or you can also break those two verbs up as they are with the use of a past participle, e.g. "I've been having "second thoughts."" Or you could simply use the first person singular present indicative; i.e. "I'm having "second thoughts."" This is just one of many. I'm deliberately avoiding posting massive walls of text about every error that I'm finding.

[DELTAprime]

I don't know if I should count myself lucky nothing worse happened or be rightfully pissed that anything went wrong. My MP11T from PC was delivered to the wrong house, in the wrong street, in the wrong suburb. After the kid it was delivered to had completely opened it and played with it the mother realised it wasn't for her son and got it redelivered to me. I've emailed PC and they are going to chase it up with Fastway Couriers and see if they can get me some compensation from them for it.

Luckily TC was undamaged and nothing was lost, tho everything was opened.:mad:

[UltimateGalvatron]

I don't know if I should count myself lucky nothing worse happened or be rightfully pissed that anything went wrong. My MP11T from PC was delivered to the wrong house, in the wrong street, in the wrong suburb. After the kid it was delivered to had completely opened it and played with it the mother realised it wasn't for her son and got it redelivered to me. I've emailed PC and they are going to chase it up with Fastway Couriers and see if they can get me some compensation from them for it.

Luckily TC was undamaged and nothing was lost, tho everything was opened.:mad:

WHAT THE F**K! I woul be SO pissed if that was me! I don't even let my sister touch mine, let alone a kid I don't know. I would be both horrified and angry as hell. So sorry for that mate, that sucks big time.

[Sinnertwin]

Wow.
Some people.
Sure, here's a parcel that isn't even addressed to you, but open it up and have a good hard go at it.

[BruiseLee]

That sucks...

Good thing the mum did the right thing though. How does a parcel which needs to be signed for get delivered to a kid anyway?

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

Damn DELTAprime! That sucks big time! :mad:

Hopefully you get rightfully compensated!

[griffin]

I don't know if I should count myself lucky nothing worse happened or be rightfully pissed that anything went wrong. My MP11T from PC was delivered to the wrong house, in the wrong street, in the wrong suburb. After the kid it was delivered to had completely opened it and played with it the mother realised it wasn't for her son and got it redelivered to me. I've emailed PC and they are going to chase it up with Fastway Couriers and see if they can get me some compensation from them for it.

Luckily TC was undamaged and nothing was lost, tho everything was opened.:mad:

Someone else a couple years ago said how their item was posted to the wrong house in their street and the neighbour had opened the box and opened/played with the item inside.

The first thing I look at when something is delivered to the house, or offered by a delivery driver, is who it is addressed to.
It's not a freebie... it's illegal if you accept something that is clearly addressed to someone else... just like if someone else's money ends up in your account by accident.

Even if it is a kid under 10 (anyone older should be able to read, and have parents already telling them to not open other people's things), the parents should be telling their kids not open or answer the door on their own, for their own safety.

[GoktimusPrime]

Opening someone else's mail is a federal offence (http://www.justanswer.com/australian-law/1vvg2-laws-regarding-opening-mail-addressed.html#re.v/417/).

[Megatran]

I feel for you DELTAprime. I had my TF Legacy of Box Packaging book delivered to a house a few blocks down the road from me. The mother dropped off the book at our place a few days later.... not before her kid ran his dirty mits all over the pages.

[AJ_Prime]

That sucks dude, I would be so pissed. Like someone else said, if your name is not on the item, then DON'T FRIGGIN' OPEN IT!! Seriously, we're not talking particle physics here...

Then again, common sense is much like particle physics to some people. Although the kid should have been taught better by his parents, the courier driver must also accept some of the responsibility. I mean, wrong house number and wrong street? How would you even confuse those two things?

[UltraMarginal]

Wow.
Some people.
Sure, here's a parcel that isn't even addressed to you, but open it up and have a good hard go at it.


That sucks...

Good thing the mum did the right thing though. How does a parcel which needs to be signed for get delivered to a kid anyway?


Opening someone else's mail is a federal offence (http://www.justanswer.com/australian-law/1vvg2-laws-regarding-opening-mail-addressed.html#re.v/417/).

Wow, Delta prime, I was going to say pretty much what these guys have said.

[GoktimusPrime]

I don't know if I should count myself lucky nothing worse happened or be rightfully <expletive> that anything went wrong.
WHAT THE <expletive>! I woul be SO <expletive> if that was me!
While I sympathise with your feelings, it'd be appreciated if you fellas could...
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/avatars/th_meme_cap_mindlanguage_zpsb5qgargj.jpg ;)

[griffin]

While I sympathise with your feelings, it'd be appreciated if you fellas could...
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/avatars/th_meme_cap_mindlanguage_zpsb5qgargj.jpg ;)

You realise that this is the "venting" topic - people are going to show their frustrations... and the members here are good enough to not be using actual obscene words, or using them in full.

One word was already censored, while the other one hasn't been an obscene word since about the 80s... and gets used by everyone who's over ten, or in their TV shows that are PG (and younger kids shouldn't be joining here without Parental Guidance anyway - if they are, it is in breach of the conditions of registration, and it is not our responsibility to cater to them, like how all TV shows are not required to be G rated just in case a young kid watches it).

We may endeavour to be fairly kid-friendly here and have some strict rules already, but it is still a messageboard that caters to adults (that allows minors to join provided there aren't any issues between the two age groups), and the rules will not be going overkill on the standards, sacrificing fun in the process... or else we won't have any members here (young kids who shouldn't use or see those words don't interact here, and those who do use them are going to go elsewhere that is actually fun for being more casual).


As noted a few times before, if you have issue with the actions of other members, it is to be brought to the attention of the staff... members are not to moderate other members.


8 - Regular Members not to "Moderate" other Members
Usage of any widely recognised or understood terminology, names or measurements are allowed on this forum. If you are not a Staff Member, you are not to "correct" anyone for using words you wouldn't use, or a typo or misspelling, especially if it is clearly understood what was intended. Non-staff should refrain from instructing members on what to post in a specific topic, or where it should be posted. Refer it to Staff if a topic needs to be moved, or re-titled to match the section.

[DELTAprime]

Just had a heart attack when I looked at my tracking for Defensor, it said he was delivered, but nobody was home. Turns out there a bug in the mobile version of the Australia Post website. I'll be able to grab him tomorrow from the local DC.:rolleyes:

[Paulbot]

Noticed there was a preview out for the new Transformers Holiday Special from IDW. Hadn't paid much attention before. Oh, funny looks like Megatron's giving Ravage a bone for Christmas for being a good dog this year...

Wait a minute, Ravage is not a dog!

Seriously, Ravage has been around for over 30 years and is a cat. This is not a RIRFIB/RIBFIR type situation, Ravage has always been a cat. Come on IDW you can do better than this!

http://i.imgur.com/87LfuT8.jpg

[BruiseLee]

Noticed there was a preview out for the new Transformers Holiday Special from IDW. Hadn't paid much attention before. Oh, funny looks like Megatron's giving Ravage a bone for Christmas for being a good dog this year...

Wait a minute, Ravage is not a dog!

Seriously, Ravage has been around for over 30 years and is a cat. This is not a RIRFIB/RIBFIR type situation, Ravage has always been a cat. Come on IDW you can do better than this!

Sounds like someone has a bone to pick! :D

[UltraMarginal]

I look at it like the one sided present joke, Ravage gives Megatron a fusion cannon, which he clearly misses, Megatron puts little or no thought into the present and gets ravage a bone, something he wouldn't even like.

[Seraphim Prime]

I feel it's like James Roberts making fun of the confusion. There was a joke in Dark Cybertron about it, and I'm not sure if was in All Hail Megatron or one of the issues written later, which made fun of Spike for confusing Ravage for a dog.

[UltimateGalvatron]

I feel it's like James Roberts making fun of the confusion. There was a joke in Dark Cybertron about it, and I'm not sure if was in All Hail Megatron or one of the issues written later, which made fun of Spike for confusing Ravage for a dog.

In Dark Cybertron Prowl says
Prowl: "I agree with the dog"
Ravage: "Cat"
Prowl: "Whatever"

[Ravagecat]

I really hated when I would show people my Ravage toy as a kid and they would say "oh cool a dog transformer" :mad:;)

[DELTAprime]

Yeah it started in AHM. Ravage was stalking some dumb humans and they thought he was a dog.:p

[Paulbot]

Every year I think "I'll work on the award questions (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=20231) through the year so there's no mad rush in December". Well it's December and it's mad rush time again :o

[Paulbot]

Less of a vent and more of a disappointment I suppose, but I saw two of the Combaticons at Myer today. Vortex and Blast Off. Wouldn't want to buy either, Vortex's colour scheme is gaudy, and Blast Off's head? I can deal with a jet but give the guy a face plate! But the thing that bothered me more was that on the packaging were the CG renders of the toy rather than photographs.

I guess I should have expected that since the only "official photos" of the 2016 toys are these renders, but I didn't and it did surprise me. I guess they've been photoshopping the toys for years anyway and this is the next step but still, there has been photos of TFs on their packaging for most (but not all) TF toys to date and now I guess those days are gone.

[griffin]

Less of a vent and more of a disappointment I suppose, but I saw two of the Combaticons at Myer today. Vortex and Blast Off. Wouldn't want to buy either, Vortex's colour scheme is gaudy, and Blast Off's head? I can deal with a jet but give the guy a face plate! But the thing that bothered me more was that on the packaging were the CG renders of the toy rather than photographs.

I guess I should have expected that since the only "official photos" of the 2016 toys are these renders, but I didn't and it did surprise me. I guess they've been photoshopping the toys for years anyway and this is the next step but still, there has been photos of TFs on their packaging for most (but not all) TF toys to date and now I guess those days are gone.

I think Brawl, Swindle and Onslaught were the main selling points of the Combaticons team (and where most of the budget would have been spent), a bit like BotCon exclusives that only have a limited number of new heads or parts.
It also means that most people getting the better 3/5ths of the team, will be more likely to buy the remaining two weaker ones to complete the set.

TakaraTomy is likely to have a space shuttle Blastoff, and they do more accurate colourings, which should make Vortex look better.

[Jaxius._]

Got CW Brawl, he needed to have extra plastic sanded off to transform, a waist mod using magnets and his tank mode won't fit together. Oh and my one didn't come with instructions.

[Jaxius._]

Order summary
Items (1)$399.95
Shipping and handling:$55.81
Reduced Shipping on international orders $150+:-$11.16

$55 shipping for MT Giant from TFSource :(

[UltimateGalvatron]

Order summary
Items (1)$399.95
Shipping and handling:$55.81
Reduced Shipping on international orders $150+:-$11.16

$55 shipping for MT Giant from TFSource :(

Bulk buy with some other stuff, it then makes shipping more worth the price.

[Dead End]

Got CW Devastator for my birthday and he came with 2 left hands! I put the hands on last so only realised at the end.

Toys R Us were good about giving me a replacement though which was lucky.

[Bidoofdude]

So I was trying to pull off Generations Crosscut's shoulder ball joint and ripped the post attached to it in half. Quite ironic considering he was being pulled to be blown apart. Superglue it is.

[UltimateGalvatron]

So I was trying to pull off Generations Crosscut's shoulder ball joint and ripped the post attached to it in half. Quite ironic considering he was being pulled to be blown apart. Superglue it is.

That is it what happened to me with Platinum Edition Rollbar (same mould). :mad:

[GoktimusPrime]

I can deal with a jet but give the guy a face plate!
IMO Firefly would've been a more appropriate mould to repaint as Blast Off. Anyone wanna try a digibash?

[BigTransformerTrev]

What's with the lack of associated merchandise with Transformers: Devastation?

With WFC we got a bunch of toys. With FOC we got a ton of toys AND T-shirts AND calendars etc.

I can understand there not being many toys as most of the characters already have had toys in recent years (though not G1 Kickback & Grimlock) and the game was more to promote toys like the CW line. But surely they could have done us a calendar - I'm having a bugger of a time finding a TF one for 2016!

[Krayt]

IMO Firefly would've been a more appropriate mould to repaint as Blast Off. Anyone wanna try a digibash?

I sure hope your just talking about the head... coz... you know...

[prjkt]

What's with the lack of associated merchandise with Transformers: Devastation?

With WFC we got a bunch of toys. With FOC we got a ton of toys AND T-shirts AND calendars etc.

I can understand there not being many toys as most of the characters already have had toys in recent years (though not G1 Kickback & Grimlock) and the game was more to promote toys like the CW line. But surely they could have done us a calendar - I'm having a bugger of a time finding a TF one for 2016!

I think because WFC/FOC was a whole new "world" - new designs of all the characters, while Devastation is very G1 to it's core (plus it's a different developer, not sure if that has any relevance though.)

So basically anything G1 related would also be Devastation related....

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Dammit, My Saber is stuck fast in Star Saber's chest. I can't get the bugger out and it's damn annoying!!

[CHILENO20]

Dammit, My Saber is stuck fast in Star Saber's chest. I can't get the bugger out and it's damn annoying!!

WD-40 dude, or at least the japanese equalivant. Good luck

[GoktimusPrime]

Are you pressing the release switch at the back?
Refer to Step 9 in the instruction booklet:
.....※セイバーを取り外す時は、本体の背中のパーツを倒し、ロックボタンを押しながら取り外してくだ さい。
.....※To remove Sabre, open back panel and press the lock release button.

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Yup. Got him out.

I think It's because it's a bit cold, so pointed a hairdryer at him to warm him up a little bit and he popped out.

[ZoonMaster5000]

Just found out my mp-11 thundercracker has had a piece put in back to front meaning he can't transform without the head removed probably the only one out of the 2000 made, lucky me! Maybe I could think of it as a one of a kind rarity or not!

[Jaxius._]

My cat died... To take my mind away I decided to recount all my Transformers. I have 10 autobots to every Decepticon... Hasbro needs to make a massive sweep army builder pack :D

[UltimateGalvatron]

My cat died... To take my mind away I decided to recount all my Transformers. I have 10 autobots to every Decepticon... Hasbro needs to make a massive sweep army builder pack :D

RIP Cat :(

[UltraMarginal]

My cat died... To take my mind away I decided to recount all my Transformers. I have 10 autobots to every Decepticon... Hasbro needs to make a massive sweep army builder pack :D

sorry to hear that mate.

[DELTAprime]

Don't you just hate it when the delivery driver assumes nobody is home because you don't have a car and the door is closed to keep the AC in. Oh well, just have to go down to TNT on Wednesday to pick up UW Devastator.

[GoktimusPrime]

My Soundwave bust fell down this morning and the shoulder cannon snapped off. :(

[Mythirax]

My Soundwave bust fell down this morning and the shoulder cannon snapped off. :(

That's so cruddy man :(

[UltraMarginal]

My Soundwave bust fell down this morning and the shoulder cannon snapped off. :(

That sucks.

[Krayt]

Damnit....

Just got Onslaught.... Went to take combaticon limbs off Grand Scourge.... But they look too good!!!

Gonna have to get another set of limbs tomorrow

[UltraMarginal]

Damnit....

Just got Onslaught.... Went to take combaticon limbs off Grand Scourge.... But they look too good!!!

Gonna have to get another set of limbs tomorrow

First world problems:D:cool:

[DELTAprime]

First world problems:D:cool:

+1

[GoktimusPrime]

:p
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/FB_ruinedforever_zpscncjbgcx.jpg

[UltraMarginal]

To be fair, I've found the excessive use of the same/extremely similar transformation design over the combiner wars deluxes to be tiring. there are a few differences here and there but overall if you've transformed a single unique toy from one of each team you aren't going to see anything new anywhere else.

I understand that there is a certain need for consistency with size of combiner modes but it is possible to get equivalent sizes with different engineering. Just look at the different transformations on the original combaticons. they were all unique.

Perhaps it's because we've been so spoiled over the last decade with extremely interesting transformation schemes that this consistency in the combiner wars line is more of a stark comparison.

I have still been enjoying the line and think the combined modes and alt modes of the figures look great. I'm also very impressed with the expressiveness of the individual robot modes.

[GoktimusPrime]

Sure, but it's hardly enough to make the entire Combiner Wars series "suck." There are lots of redecos that I've skipped and future ones that I plan on skipping; mostly the ones that are based on characters that I already have as Classicsverse figures (e.g. Prowl, Sunstreaker, Ironhide, Optimus Prime, Mirage etc.). The only exceptions I've made are when the characters were originally gestalts in G1, so I've replace some previous non-combining CHUGUR figures with combinable CW counterparts (e.g. Silverbolt, Hot Spot, Onslaught).

But I still regard CW as a pretty awesome series. :)

[prjkt]

I think the Combiner Wars series has done really well for what it is.
Sure a lot of the bots transform in a similar manner, but they need to - have to have the core with combiner plug, and fold up into a sturdy leg, along with extending legs to form a working arm.

Even the G1 Aerialbots were pretty much the same design, just slightly different shells.

Speaking of G1 they could get away with being more different to each other as bot mode articulation was irrelevant (Groove with no legs, Breakdown's legs flipping outwards and Vortex' single foot for example) and the R&D costs had already been paid (Hasbro bought already designed figures.)

To get all the teams and individual members we did, we knew there'd have to be retools to make it worth it, and the differences between ones like Skydive/Air Raid, Rook/Swindle and Dead End/Streetwise are pretty big. Along with the differences with Hot Spot/Onslaught making each of the original combiners look quite different.

I've been impressed.

[philby]

i was mucking about with my takara LG-10 arcee and tried to force one of the swords a bit too far into her hand and broke the hand :( not completely though, the palm part started to break away. argh. FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[philby]

lol was that person's reply about my arcee situation a bit too controversial for the board?

[pleaseexplain101]

seems TF fans are a lot harsher on the whole remold / retool of the modern CW line

There are other toy lines that does the same if not more (ala Marvel 6" waves) where basically everything is a remold / retool or an existing figure with a few exception new mold every now and then.

Yet the fans seems to be more forgiving and enthusiastic about each new release that comes out

[drifand]

To be fair, I've found the excessive use of the same/extremely similar transformation design over the combiner wars deluxes to be tiring. there are a few differences here and there but overall if you've transformed a single unique toy from one of each team you aren't going to see anything new anywhere else.

I understand that there is a certain need for consistency with size of combiner modes but it is possible to get equivalent sizes with different engineering. Just look at the different transformations on the original combaticons. they were all unique.

Perhaps it's because we've been so spoiled over the last decade with extremely interesting transformation schemes that this consistency in the combiner wars line is more of a stark comparison.

I have still been enjoying the line and think the combined modes and alt modes of the figures look great. I'm also very impressed with the expressiveness of the individual robot modes.

One reason I never bothered collecting this range.

[UltraMarginal]

seems TF fans are a lot harsher on the whole remold / retool of the modern CW line

There are other toy lines that does the same if not more (ala Marvel 6" waves) where basically everything is a remold / retool or an existing figure with a few exception new mold every now and then.

Yet the fans seems to be more forgiving and enthusiastic about each new release that comes out

I think you're right and I think there is fairly good reason for it. Traditionally Transformers have been unique often challenging puzzle toys. over the last 30 years we as a fandom have been spoilt rotten with constantly new and interesting ways to change different alt modes into giant robots.

most other figure lines are collections of humanoids, apart from different body shapes and clothing you generally expect them to all have exactly the same set of moving parts across a product line.

the CW line has been exceptionally well engineered and at the same time amazingly reflects many of the consistencies of the original toys it's providing Homage to. Largely due to the restriction of each limb having to be the same length as an arm and the same height as a leg, all the arialbots have almost exactly the same transformation, and the same scheme has been used on several of the car characters as well. Add to that, the retooling of pretty much every character into another in another wave and there is an unprecedented level of consistency in the CW toy line, something that the transformers fandom isn't really used to.

I've been picking up all the UW combiner sets that represent the original teams and i'm going to stop there. All the G2 recolours and G1 non-combining characters that are getting CW moulds I don't feel like I need and in the case of the G1 characters I'm fortunate to have been collecting when the classics/generations versions of these toys were released.

Taking into account all the 'remoulds', the shapes/details on the 'repaints' in this line are better than the repaints we were getting a few years ago. in the past a repaint was just that. something with a new colour scheme (which has always been unpopular with the majority). Then Hastak started moulding alternate heads and in the last couple years we've seen extensive remoulds using very similar core structure. I think the TFPRID Arcee/Generations Chromia are the best examples of this, followed by the TF Prime Vehicon and jet Vehicon.

Like I said above, the line has been excellent outside of this transformation consistency. The toys have nice alt and robot modes, are the most stable and articulated combiners we've ever seen and the individual robot modes have fantastic pose ability and character.

I also don't think we'll ever see this level of transformation consistency again, simply due to the nature of the scramble city combiners. I do expect we'll see more creative 'remoulding' along the lines of Arcee and Chromia with less of the traditional direct repaint.

Don't forget, the Transformers fandom in general is possibly one of the more vocal easily cranky fandoms out there, at least that's what I've seen from personal experience.


edit{ oh wow, that turned into a screed, apologies}:o

[Seraphim Prime]

seems TF fans are a lot harsher on the whole remold / retool of the modern CW line

There are other toy lines that does the same if not more (ala Marvel 6" waves) where basically everything is a remold / retool or an existing figure with a few exception new mold every now and then.

Yet the fans seems to be more forgiving and enthusiastic about each new release that comes out

I think the issue is a matter of distinctiveness.

Marvel Legends, GIJoe, and similar lines have the benefit of a consistent scale and the ability to mix and match parts from existing figures and possibly only one or two new parts to create a new distinct figure. (EG - The FunPub Marissa Faireborne and Old Snake and proposed Only Human Hot Rod and Arcee are all unique figures for mix and match parts and intelligent use of paint apps)

TFs are different in that there is limited scope to reuse toolings as each part has to serve both an aesthetic and an engineering function, which means there is limited scope to mix and match in the same way.

The general rule used to be that each mould required at least two uses to justify the tooling costs (think Cybertron Hot Shot & Excellion, Animated Ironhide & Ratchet). With the Thrilling 30 line it seems that they moved to a mentality of apportioning this balance across the whole line, which is why some moulds got three or four uses to justify the ones that only got a single use.

Combiner Wars has extended this idea across 26 separate deluxes (not including the G2 recolours), and is really been the first line which has seen some of the mix and matching seen elsewhere (Offroad and Trailbreaker) and extended the idea of unique moulds with shared engineering (Silverbolt / Cyclonus , Swindle / Rook)

[pleaseexplain101]

If one needs to collect them all then yes the fatigue would definitely kick in

However like some mention if only sticking with a few e.g just the UW line then the whole line is actually pretty good given so many choices

And they are simple relaxing fun, as a collector of CW MP & 3P there are many times when I'm just glad to pick up a CW TF , transform it under 1 minute and just enjoy the toy

[BigTransformerTrev]

If one needs to collect them all then yes the fatigue would definitely kick in

However like some mention if only sticking with a few e.g just the UW line then the whole line is actually pretty good given so many choices

And they are simple relaxing fun, as a collector of CW MP & 3P there are many times when I'm just glad to pick up a CW TF , transform it under 1 minute and just enjoy the toy

I've been meaning to ask pleaseexplain101 - is your user name paying homage to Pauline Hansen, mocking her or has nothing to do with her? Just curious. Probably many of our younger users have no idea what I'm talking about :p

[pleaseexplain101]

I've been meaning to ask pleaseexplain101 - is your user name paying homage to Pauline Hansen, mocking her or has nothing to do with her? Just curious. Probably many of our younger users have no idea what I'm talking about :p
all of the above lol, but feel the 'phrase' is more relevant nowadays in a different way where many people can't be bothered to google or search for information themselves and simply asks others to "please explain " on anything everything :)

[BigTransformerTrev]

all of the above lol, but feel the 'phrase' is more relevant nowadays in a different way where many people can't be bothered to google or search for information themselves and simply asks others to "please explain " on anything everything :)

People can't be bothered to use Google?!? Holy hell - in my day we had to use a library :p

[GoktimusPrime]

seems TF fans are a lot harsher on the whole remold / retool of the modern CW line
Also this... ;)
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/meme_redecos_zpsgvch60lk.jpg

[pleaseexplain101]

People can't be bothered to use Google?!? Holy hell - in my day we had to use a library :p
Or borrow someone else's set of britannica encyclopedia ... :-P

[Paulbot]

"I used to look up the Funk and Wagnalls."

"Paulbot please there's no need to swear."

[DaptoDog]

"I used to look up the Funk and Wagnalls."

"Paulbot please there's no need to swear."

Yep we had those crappy encyclopedia's at home too. Now kids just take laptops and tablets to school. Easier to plagiarise, at least we had to type out what it said in the book. Now they can just copy paste lol.

[GoktimusPrime]

Forget plagiarism, I encounter senior students who cannot even engage in a discussion without having to whip out a device to Google stuff because they just don't retain knowledge in their brains! :rolleyes:

[drifand]

Problem I have is people rely too much on google and too much on evidence based on studies even though it shows the studies are outdated.

I always see people challenging only based on what they googled but have not used life experience or choose to ignore someone who has new facts but yet to be studied.

Back to vent tf thread, is so quiet for MPs now.

[Jetfire in the sky]

Back to vent tf thread, is so quiet for MPs now.

It's Laserwave month!! :D

[ampoldj]

It's Laserwave month!! :D

dont forget Ramjet :D

[BigTransformerTrev]

Back to vent tf thread, is so quiet for MPs now.


It's Laserwave month!! :D


dont forget Ramjet :D

Yeah and Hot Rod just came out last week :D

Geez if this is 'quiet time' for MPs I'd hate to see the busy season :eek: As it is I've had to cancel my Ramjet preorder as with the other MPs being released I can't afford him.

[kup]

Sure, but it's hardly enough to make the entire Combiner Wars series "suck." There are lots of redecos that I've skipped and future ones that I plan on skipping; mostly the ones that are based on characters that I already have as Classicsverse figures (e.g. Prowl, Sunstreaker, Ironhide, Optimus Prime, Mirage etc.). The only exceptions I've made are when the characters were originally gestalts in G1, so I've replace some previous non-combining CHUGUR figures with combinable CW counterparts (e.g. Silverbolt, Hot Spot, Onslaught).

But I still regard CW as a pretty awesome series. :)

Combiner Wars concept is awesome but that's it for me. Design wise they are just 'ok' and some bordering on mediocre. There isn't much in Combiner Wars that is compelling in the design or engineering to make them truly special.

I have bought only a few toys of this line because I didn't find their designs compelling enough. The only combiner I bought was Superion because none of the 3Ps had offered one that I was truly happy with and even so, not that blown away with the Combiner Wars Superion either - It is just 'alright'.

[GoktimusPrime]

I agree with Trev's sentiments. Meanwhile, in the land of facts...
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/masterpiece_stats_zpsveaoo7lo.jpg
I've never seen a year so busy for MP collecting! These toys naturally come out at a slower rate because they are a more quality-focused line over the mainline stuff. Just looking at the crazy degree of engineering that was poured into MP Ironhide is mind boggling. That level of technical wizardry doesn't happen overnight. And remember that this the same creative team who are also simultaneously working on other TF lines, such as Combiner Wars, RiD, Titans Returns etc. It's not as if there's a team who are solely dedicated to developing MPs and nothing else for TakaraTOMY.

Guess they can't make everyone happy. :rolleyes:

[5FDP]

Combiner Wars concept is awesome but that's it for me. Design wise they are just 'ok' and some bordering on mediocre.

Even that's being generous.

[Seraphim Prime]

I always see people challenging only based on what they googled but have not used life experience or choose to ignore someone who has new facts but yet to be studied.


But then it's not a fact supported by peer review, and has less formal standing in a debate.

The issue with a google search (more so the internet in general) is that there is enough information out there that can be contorted to support whatever you want it to say.

[drifand]

dont forget Ramjet :D

I actually waiting for news beyond primal ATM .

[drifand]

But then it's not a fact supported by peer review, and has less formal standing in a debate.

The issue with a google search (more so the internet in general) is that there is enough information out there that can be contorted to support whatever you want it to say.

A lot of ignorance. All I have to say people are blinded by what they know but have no balls to open to what new findings.

Just because some one made a study it suddenly became more credit? Ffs a lot need to open up more.

I am facing an issues with doctors who think steroid cream on skin has no after effects. Australia has no freaking clue what the cream does to some people. There is almost zero study here where only now US have opened to such withdraw symptoms on people do happen.

It looks as if I must do a study just to shoot all the doctors here. And even today tonight has open up to it but doctors refuse to recognise such thing. What a f up system

[drifand]

I agree with Trev's sentiments. Meanwhile, in the land of facts...
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/masterpiece_stats_zpsveaoo7lo.jpg
I've never seen a year so busy for MP collecting! These toys naturally come out at a slower rate because they are a more quality-focused line over the mainline stuff. Just looking at the crazy degree of engineering that was poured into MP Ironhide is mind boggling. That level of technical wizardry doesn't happen overnight. And remember that this the same creative team who are also simultaneously working on other TF lines, such as Combiner Wars, RiD, Titans Returns etc. It's not as if there's a team who are solely dedicated to developing MPs and nothing else for TakaraTOMY.

Guess they can't make everyone happy. :rolleyes:

Why do you think 3p are making money?
And is not that, they know what the people want. Not remould another mp-11 or ramjet to trust when they made all in a hit.
People who love MPs are mostly getting old, I don't want to turn 50 just for jazz.

[kup]

A lot of ignorance. All I have to say people are blinded by what they know but have no balls to open to what new findings.

Just because some one made a study it suddenly became more credit? Ffs a lot need to open up more.

I am facing an issues with doctors who think steroid cream on skin has no after effects. Australia has no freaking clue what the cream does to some people. There is almost zero study here where only now US have opened to such withdraw symptoms on people do happen.

It looks as if I must do a study just to shoot all the doctors here. And even today tonight has open up to it but doctors refuse to recognise such thing. What a f up system

What does steroid cream have to do with Transformers? Do you use it on Legends to make them bigger?

[BigTransformerTrev]

Why do you think 3p are making money?
And is not that, they know what the people want. Not remould another mp-11 or ramjet to trust when they made all in a hit.
People who love MPs are mostly getting old, I don't want to turn 50 just for jazz.

Given what seemed to be a severe dislike of Masterpiece Tracks on your part (I gotta admit I did not find him the greatest MP myself, still liked him but like most of the others better) I'm surprised to find you so adamant that so many more MP's should be getting released, especially given we've just had Hot Rodimus last month, Ironhide the month before that, getting Laserwave and Ramjet this month and getting Ratchet the month after (apologies - cant remember when Primal is getting released as wont be getting him).

Given past disappointments with your fav TF toyline and your dislike of the movies, have you ever given any thought to maybe another hobby might bring you more joy than Transformers? The kids of today seem to be really into the Marvel and DC superhero movies, you might like them better than the Transformers ones and they come with action figures and comics too. Star Wars is pretty big at the moment, you might like that one. Or maybe something different altogether - I enjoy gardening and travel myself, but there are plenty of other pursuits that bring pleasure - sport, music etc. Or of course maybe you could meet a nice girl and have a few kids - I find family life very rewarding indeed. Maybe one or more of these things might make you happier than Transformers does in the long run and introduce you to some new internet chat sites to have fun on :)

[Sinnertwin]

*closes door slowly & walks away*

[Paulbot]

Went to buy MTMTE #50 today but the store looked it up and it said it was in next week. Left work early for nothing and suspect it might actually be released today. Can't really look up to check on the delay as people have been posting spoilers as the digital copy got pirated out early.

[Megatran]

Went to buy MTMTE #50 today but the store looked it up and it said it was in next week. Left work early for nothing and suspect it might actually be released today. Can't really look up to check on the delay as people have been posting spoilers as the digital copy got pirated out early.
Appears not to be a total waste. You might have to leave work early & try tomorrow, Friday & all of next week. ;)

[AJ_Prime]

What those steroid cream have to do with Transformers? Do you use it on Legends to make them bigger?

I regularly skip leg day at the gym. Do you think if I rub steroid cream on them, they'll catch up to the rest of my body? :p

Also, I'd like to vent. I'm really excited about the amount of MP's being released so close to each other this year, however my wallet is crying and my wife is complaining. What's the best way to keep them both quiet, keeping in mind that ceasing to collect is not an option? :D

[UltraMarginal]

Went to buy MTMTE #50 today but the store looked it up and it said it was in next week. Left work early for nothing and suspect it might actually be released today. Can't really look up to check on the delay as people have been posting spoilers as the digital copy got pirated out early.

huh, Kings comics don't seem to get their stock until Thursdays. I did note that the weekly release newsletter from them this week only has one comic from IDW and it's not transformers related.


Appears not to be a total waste. You might have to leave work early & try tomorrow, Friday & all of next week. ;)

haha, I don't know how many workplaces would consider that as reasonable cause.

[Paulbot]

It's definitely delayed, in physical and digital stores.

[prjkt]

It's definitely delayed, in physical and digital stores.

Apparently March 9 is the new date, due to "distribution issues" - which can mean anything really

[drifand]

I think people misunderstand what i meant.

I said mp news have been quiet. Other than primal I heard zero about what's for the rest of the year.

As for Tracks, yes is a major dislike. I am disappointed but I kept it as is one of my G1 wants. I do not need to care what you guys think about the masterpiece line. However maybe it helps if you know I get them very cheap and in some cases free. I do however judge each mp toy for what it is. I don't sugarcoat bs .
If the toy fits to be a mp then it should be a good guideline.

Nobody here needs to tell me "if you don't like masterpiece don't buy one"
I didn't need to buy some and I do not just collect tfs. All the talk about Tracks have indeed change my feelings about MPs and indeed I am no longer as hungry to buy everything.

Fort max was not my cup, and I left it as that. There is nothing wrong with it but it does not excite me as what devy or metroplex did.

I do feel however the 3p company are doing a better job in pushing out pretty decent mp like products. Though I have not buy one, I am not one sighted TT fan.

[DaptoDog]

Late last year we were spoilt rotten with Masterpiece announcements. They all just came in a flurry. So now we're in a little air pocket but I don't doubt there will be another rush of announcements in the next month or two.

But the upside is that we are now getting so many of the previously announced Masterpieces hitting our doorsteps so I'm just enjoying that and not just looking forward to the next release. Personally, the Combiner Wars and now Titans Return announcements are a nice supplement to Masterpiece that I don't find myself getting bored. I'm grateful that I've gotten more serious about the hobby only in the last couple years when the Masterpiece release schedule has really ramped up as shown by Goki.

[drifand]

Late last year we were spoilt rotten with Masterpiece announcements. They all just came in a flurry. So now we're in a little air pocket but I don't doubt there will be another rush of announcements in the next month or two.

But the upside is that we are now getting so many of the previously announced Masterpieces hitting our doorsteps so I'm just enjoying that and not just looking forward to the next release. Personally, the Combiner Wars and now Titans Return announcements are a nice supplement to Masterpiece that I don't find myself getting bored. I'm grateful that I've gotten more serious about the hobby only in the last couple years when the Masterpiece release schedule has really ramped up as shown by Goki.

I think we will have another Tokyo exclusive, it just depends on which mp gets it.
I would expect another two MPs by end of this year just like Tracks and Road Rage. A yellow bee would have helped to fill the gaps.

The cw series and new head masters are great , provided I am a teenage kid which is why I am not into them personally. This does not mean they are bad toys.

[GoktimusPrime]

One of my main sources of G1, G2 and later BW Transformers (http://www.hillsnews.com.au/story/3779564/exclusive-castle-towers-kmart-to-shut-down/?cs=1454) is now shutting down. :(

[Sinnertwin]

One of my main sources of G1, G2 and later BW Transformers (http://www.hillsnews.com.au/story/3779564/exclusive-castle-towers-kmart-to-shut-down/?cs=1454) is now shutting down. :(

not permanently though :)

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

One of my main sources of G1, G2 and later BW Transformers (http://www.hillsnews.com.au/story/3779564/exclusive-castle-towers-kmart-to-shut-down/?cs=1454) is now shutting down. :(

Not a fan of Kmart North Rocks I take it? :p

[prjkt]

I think we will have another Tokyo exclusive, it just depends on which mp gets it.
I would expect another two MPs by end of this year just like Tracks and Road Rage. A yellow bee would have helped to fill the gaps.

The cw series and new head masters are great , provided I am a teenage kid which is why I am not into them personally. This does not mean they are bad toys.

Didn't we already get a yellow bee? or are you referring to the rumoured potential Hasbro release?

[GoktimusPrime]

not permanently though :)
That's what I get for not reading to the end of the article (I've had a loooooong day :rolleyes:) :p

Not a fan of Kmart North Rocks I take it? :p
I think I've purchased one Transformer from there... my Combiner Wars Rodimus. Never bought any G1 Transformers from there, so it doesn't really hold any nostalgic meaning for me. The first Transformer that I got from Kmart Castle Hill in 1988 was Waverider.

[Handsprime]

One of my main sources of G1, G2 and later BW Transformers (http://www.hillsnews.com.au/story/3779564/exclusive-castle-towers-kmart-to-shut-down/?cs=1454) is now shutting down. :(

Bugger, and that's my closest Kmart (unless north rocks is, I'm not too certain). Oh well most stores haven't been good with Transformers stock ever since Age of Extinction came out

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

The first Transformer that I got from Kmart Castle Hill in 1988 was Waverider.

Most of my G1 stuff I remember getting from Big W Macquarie all the way back in the '80's, but I do remember getting some Machine Men from Kmart North Rocks back in the day, plus some Machine Wars stuff on heavy discount in the '90's/early 2000.

[drifand]

Didn't we already get a yellow bee? or are you referring to the rumoured potential Hasbro release?

We have a orange bee. I mean come on, we are not colour blind here are we?
Yellow would be lemon yellow.

There is nothing wrong about the current colour, I am just preferring the yellow.

Unsure with hasbro and their quality isn't as great .

[prjkt]

No, definitely not colour blind here, and MP21 is definitely within the yellow part of the light spectrum, it's just Volkswagen's signature deeper yellow, and matches his G1 cartoon and toy colours. A bright lemon yellow beetle would just look... Odd. Also lemon yellow figures just look tacky imo (see CW Sunstreaker)

[BigTransformerTrev]

Well a week of 41 degree temperatures took its toll. The upper jaw fell off my Grimlock AOE display stand yesterday :(. Seems every 6 months a piece falls off the big bugger.

Don't know if he's going to survive until our house extention with the Transformatorium room is ready.

[GoktimusPrime]

Bugger, and that's my closest Kmart (unless north rocks is, I'm not too certain). Oh well most stores haven't been good with Transformers stock ever since Age of Extinction came out
North Rocks is closer to you. I was there on Monday and they had the new RiD Warriors.

Most of my G1 stuff I remember getting from Big W Macquarie all the way back in the '80's, but I do remember getting some Machine Men from Kmart North Rocks back in the day, plus some Machine Wars stuff on heavy discount in the '90's/early 2000.
Until 1987, most of my TFs came from Roselands; Toyworld, Target and Grace Bros. In 1988 we moved to Castle Hill, and from then a good chunk of my TFs came from Kmart Castle Hill.

Gah... Machine Wars! I imported that entire line from the U.S. to Japan (whereas I was living at the time) because initially they were a U.S. KB Toys and Kay Bee exclusive line. Then when I moved back to Australia, I shipped all my TFs back (in many BIG boxes), including all of my MWs. It was cool for a while, but then in 1999 MW came out here and shelfwarmed badly, then, as you've rightly recalled, were discounted. :rolleyes: Was it Kmart who had the exclusive MW Versus Sets*?


No, definitely not colour blind here, and MP21 is definitely within the yellow part of the light spectrum, it's just Volkswagen's signature deeper yellow, and matches his G1 cartoon and toy colours. A bright lemon yellow beetle would just look... Odd. Also lemon yellow figures just look tacky imo (see CW Sunstreaker)
^Correct. Cadmium yellow (http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0584/5277/products/cadmium_lemon_large.jpg?v=1407272093) ≠ orange (http://www.colorcombos.com/images/colors/FF9900.png).

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*Where they literally stuck an Autobot and Decepticon together with shrink wrap. ;)

[drifand]

No, definitely not colour blind here, and MP21 is definitely within the yellow part of the light spectrum, it's just Volkswagen's signature deeper yellow, and matches his G1 cartoon and toy colours. A bright lemon yellow beetle would just look... Odd. Also lemon yellow figures just look tacky imo (see CW Sunstreaker)

If I were post on Facebook the majority will say is orange.

To be honest is all down to preference , this isn't a deal breaker for me.

Have not seen VW in this colour either.

And here are pics showing the colour accurate that the current mp isn't accurate either.

http://i65.tinypic.com/bhzog8.jpg

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

If I were post on Facebook the majority will say is orange.


Have not seen VW in this colour either.


You need to hang out in place where more crappy VW bugs drive by Drifand. ;) I've seen plenty of yellow dubs in this colour. Cheese mobiles!

Dammit Transformers, ever time I think I'm out, you pull me back in again!

[drifand]

You need to hang out in place where more crappy VW bugs drive by Drifand. ;) I've seen plenty of yellow dubs in this colour. Cheese mobiles!

Dammit Transformers, ever time I think I'm out, you pull me back in again!

Well I am not against the colour, I am just wondering if they were going to do a yellow bee that's all.

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

Well a week of 41 degree temperatures took its toll. The upper jaw fell off my Grimlock AOE display stand yesterday :(. Seems every 6 months a piece falls off the big bugger.

Don't know if he's going to survive until our house extention with the Transformatorium room is ready.

You poor sod! Here's hoping the temperature gets into manageable territory soon!


Was it Kmart who had the exclusive MW Versus Sets*?

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*Where they literally stuck an Autobot and Decepticon together with shrink wrap. ;)

Yep! Got my shrink-wrapped Autobot and Decepticon together with a nice discount sticker! :D

[GoktimusPrime]

You need to hang out in place where more crappy VW bugs drive by Drifand. ;) I've seen plenty of yellow dubs in this colour. Cheese mobiles!
VW Beetles come in all variety of colours, including:

Punch Buggy Cadmium Yellow!
http://car-from-uk.com/ebay/carphotos/full/ebay752909.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/fa/ce/54/face54c92cfa7e757426911d1457c172.jpg
http://car-from-uk.com/ebay/carphotos/full/ebay752908.jpg
http://beststockphotos.net/resources/Yellow%20VW%20Beetle.jpg
http://gomotors.net/photos/c7/db/19723-volkswagen-type-1-39beetle39-1300-s-rea-385l39-at-foxfield-colliery-on_c5a64.jpg?i

or Punch Buggy Lemon Yellow!
http://www.classiccarsseller.com/media/uploads/cars/2014/5/2/1979-volkswagen-beetle-classic-lemon-yellowtan/0.jpg
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/uploads/cars/volkswagen/3747175.jpg
http://www.classicvwbugs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Krystins68_2.jpg

The original Bumblebee toy was more of a cadmium yellow:
http://www2.unicron.com/images/igallery/resized/10801-10900/DSC02072-10876-1300-1300-90-wm-left_top-100-Unicroncomwatermarkpng.jpg
http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/1/14/Bumblebeeg1toy.jpg
http://www.tfu.info/1984/Autobot/Bumblebee/bumblebee.htm
As was the original Microman toy (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_YLoM1U82W7c/TJao3DjxjyI/AAAAAAAAAIY/mO8A46eiclw/s1600/tar_17hitmiss04.jpg).
http://www.microforever.com/MC04MiniCAR.htm

Pretender Bumblebee and the Bumblebee reissues have been done in brighter shades of lemon yellow rather than cadmium, but MP Bumblebee's cadmium yellow more approaches that of the original Bumblebee as well as real life cadmium yellow coloured VW Beetles.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/Masterpiece%20Bumblebee/mp_bumble00g_zps56927a7a.jpg
I know that my G1 Bumblebee appears to be a lighter shade in this picture, but bear in mind that:
a. It's still not lemon yellow like the reissues.
b. My G1 Bumblebee is 30+ years old! It's not-so-custom faded. :p
c. Even if the original Bumblebee was a lighter shade, it's possible that TakaraTOMY wanted to use a more realistic shade of cadmium yellow. This may be due to the T&Cs of their licence with VW, and/or possibly because TakaraTOMY just wanted a more realistic looking vehicle mode. After all, MP Bumblebee's alt mode has all sorts of crazy realistic detailing, such as the VW logo on each hubcap, the single driver-side only wing mirror etc.

I personally don't think that it's worth TakaraTOMY's time/money to reissue this toy in a lighter shade of yellow for the one person in the world who cares about it. :o

[ampoldj]

Well I am not against the colour, I am just wondering if they were going to do a yellow bee that's all.

with licensed cars Hasbro or TT wont be able to do anything if the car manufacturer chooses their color shade for their car being licensed. This is what happened with Lamborghini choosing the yellow shade for Tigertrack

[drifand]

May not be lemon yellow but is sure not orange. As I provided pics that it wasn't orange either is still a valid argument .

The name bumble bee suggest it to be yellow like a bee, last checked I took some close ups of a bee is yellow not orange.

$5 says the yellow has zero to do with licensing. Is just what TT picked and not what VW is going to have a last say in it.
I know very well I am not the only person who feels this way, but is not end of the world. I will live with it.

Btw not really crazy over it. Only felt TT would have done one just like silver streak.

[GoktimusPrime]

with licensed cars Hasbro or TT wont be able to do anything if the car manufacturer chooses their color shade for their car being licensed. This is what happened with Lamborghini choosing the yellow shade for Tigertrack
Also why the first BT Tracks was yellow. It was later when Hasbro managed to convince Chevy to allow them to use blue for Alternators Tracks that Takara were then able to release BT Tracks in blue. Given the incredible amount of realistic detail on MP Bumblebee's alt mode (e.g. driver side only wing mirror, VW logos on every hubcap etc.), it wouldn't surprise me if the shade of yellow required pre-approval from Volkswagen.

[Jetfire in the sky]

VW Beetles come in all variety of colours, including:

Punch Buggy Cadmium Yellow!
http://car-from-uk.com/ebay/carphotos/full/ebay752909.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/fa/ce/54/face54c92cfa7e757426911d1457c172.jpg
http://car-from-uk.com/ebay/carphotos/full/ebay752908.jpg
http://beststockphotos.net/resources/Yellow%20VW%20Beetle.jpg
http://gomotors.net/photos/c7/db/19723-volkswagen-type-1-39beetle39-1300-s-rea-385l39-at-foxfield-colliery-on_c5a64.jpg?i

or Punch Buggy Lemon Yellow!
http://www.classiccarsseller.com/media/uploads/cars/2014/5/2/1979-volkswagen-beetle-classic-lemon-yellowtan/0.jpg
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/uploads/cars/volkswagen/3747175.jpg
http://www.classicvwbugs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Krystins68_2.jpg

The original Bumblebee toy was more of a cadmium yellow:
http://www2.unicron.com/images/igallery/resized/10801-10900/DSC02072-10876-1300-1300-90-wm-left_top-100-Unicroncomwatermarkpng.jpg
http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/1/14/Bumblebeeg1toy.jpg
http://www.tfu.info/1984/Autobot/Bumblebee/bumblebee.htm
As was the original Microman toy (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_YLoM1U82W7c/TJao3DjxjyI/AAAAAAAAAIY/mO8A46eiclw/s1600/tar_17hitmiss04.jpg).
http://www.microforever.com/MC04MiniCAR.htm

Pretender Bumblebee and the Bumblebee reissues have been done in brighter shades of lemon yellow rather than cadmium, but MP Bumblebee's cadmium yellow more approaches that of the original Bumblebee as well as real life cadmium yellow coloured VW Beetles.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/Masterpiece%20Bumblebee/mp_bumble00g_zps56927a7a.jpg
I know that my G1 Bumblebee appears to be a lighter shade in this picture, but bear in mind that:
a. It's still not lemon yellow like the reissues.
b. My G1 Bumblebee is 30+ years old! It's not-so-custom faded. :p
c. Even if the original Bumblebee was a lighter shade, it's possible that TakaraTOMY wanted to use a more realistic shade of cadmium yellow. This may be due to the T&Cs of their licence with VW, and/or possibly because TakaraTOMY just wanted a more realistic looking vehicle mode. After all, MP Bumblebee's alt mode has all sorts of crazy realistic detailing, such as the VW logo on each hubcap, the single driver-side only wing mirror etc.

I personally don't think that it's worth TakaraTOMY's time/money to reissue this toy in a lighter shade of yellow for the one person in the world who cares about it. :o

That G1 Bee needs a bath :D:p;)

[drifand]

And the g1 bee is obviously different shade of yellow. Reissue or first release is clearly different from the mp version.

[GoktimusPrime]

That G1 Bee needs a bath :D:p;)
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/avatars/meme_customfaded_zps2b0zjkaq.jpg

[Seraphim Prime]

And the g1 bee is obviously different shade of yellow. Reissue or first release is clearly different from the mp version.

You're not incorrect. I've just had a look at my MP Bumblebee, and it is quite a deep yellow - strangely it's deeper in person than pictures seem to be able convey. It's not orange (which would require red pigmentation) but it is deeper than the cartoon.

I think the yellow you're looking for is more akin to the Tigertrack release, which is more vibrant and approaches the lemon colour moreso than Bumblebee.

HOWEVER when I look at Bumblebee, the his finish looks more like the finish I would expect to see on a production car, thus closer to the vehicle mode source than the cartoon or toy (based on photos - see above).

Is the potential for an MP-21A (Animated Ver)? Yes
Do I think it is likely? No

Ultimately it comes down to personal taste, and I am very happy with the solid glossy finish that we got.

[drifand]

Technically I am just looking for a lighter shade it doesn't need to be lemon yellow. Strangely enough I didn't find the current one as toon accurate in colour.
But that's probably because I been used to seeing the g1 toy.

Is only a wish actually not a big vent. It does becomes a vent when TT comes out with red and gold and I don't think hasbro is going to change it either .

[Mythirax]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/avatars/meme_customfaded_zps2b0zjkaq.jpg

Hahahhaa, well played :D:D:D

[GoktimusPrime]

Today I was gently picking up Dune Runner off its shelf, and the toy just snapped in half at the waist in my hand! :eek: Thankfully SMHFConvoy has graciously offered to give me a spare. :o

...I wonder if Dune Runner is a descendant of G1 Mirage or Metroplex. :p

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

That G1 Bee needs a bath :D:p;)

Or maybe it needs to go through a car wash

OF DOOOM!

[Skullcruncher]

Uh when you think you have a spare to sell, but turns out there is a difference in the boxes which makes it a variant #g1collectorproblems :mad::o:D

[TAAUBlaster]

Uh when you think you have a spare to sell, but turns out there is a difference in the boxes which makes it a variant #g1collectorproblems :mad::o:D

Oooo, what figure, and what's the difference? :D

[Skullcruncher]

Oooo, what figure, and what's the difference? :D

Just some Walkie Talkies. Turns out there is an autobot box and a deception box.

[Jaxius._]

Jhiaxus' orange-ness is worth venting about...

[GoktimusPrime]

Jhiaxus' orange-ness is worth venting about...
Because he's Dutch (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-K0cLniXPgMY/UZigaWDeYHI/AAAAAAAAEM8/_OaZHE5h_AU/s1600/oranjefans2.jpg). :p

[philby]

I wanted to take a photo of MP Ironhide and Generations Chromia together but they are way out of scale lol. Anyone have any tips on how to do forced perspective?

[DELTAprime]

I wanted to take a photo of MP Ironhide and Generations Chromia together but they are way out of scale lol. Anyone have any tips on how to do forced perspective?

There's a guy in New Zealand you should ask, goes by the name Peter Jackson.:p

Seriously the forced perspective behind the scenes stuff on Lord of the Rings is where I'd start.

[UltraMarginal]

smaller one closer, larger one further away, large depth of field to ensure both stay in focus.

that's the concept, I'm not sure exactly how to execute.

[pleaseexplain101]

what others have mention above where the larger one is much further back, also take the pic from a lower angle

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Also set up an "infinite horizon" background. (Is that what they are called?)
ie put up a piece of paper on the wall spreading down to the table (or whatever yo've put the toys on) so it'll look like there's no horizon behind them.

[philby]

cool thanks i will give it a try this week :D

[BruiseLee]

cool thanks i will give it a try this week :D

Great! Now let's get this thread back on track by venting folks! :D

I've got nothing...

[Megatran]

I want one.
I want it so badly.
I can put it in my shopping basket but can't checkout.
Now can't even open page. Site crashes. Says error page.
It's not fair. I've waited long long time for one.
Urgh. So close yet so far.
;)

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

I want one.
I want it so badly.
I can put it in my shopping basket but can't checkout.
Now can't even open page. Site crashes. Says error page.
It's not fair. I've waited long long time for one.
Urgh. So close yet so far.
;)

Oh you flirtatious dirty minx!

[Trent]

I want one.
I want it so badly.
I can put it in my shopping basket but can't checkout.
Now can't even open page. Site crashes. Says error page.
It's not fair. I've waited long long time for one.
Urgh. So close yet so far.
;)

Rage harder.

[Kapryiath]

Technically I am just looking for a lighter shade it doesn't need to be lemon yellow. Strangely enough I didn't find the current one as toon accurate in colour.
But that's probably because I been used to seeing the g1 toy.

Is only a wish actually not a big vent. It does becomes a vent when TT comes out with red and gold and I don't think hasbro is going to change it either .

The reason the yellow is off is due to the VW licensing , they had to use the actual color coded paint that was used on the original VW car rather than a toon accurate yellow

[GoktimusPrime]

Picked up the latest issues of IDW's RiD and MTMTE today, and yet again, both issues contained basic errors. Unless there are no native English speakers on their writing and editorial staff (as is the case with TakaraTOMY etc.), then I cannot fathom why their comics so routinely contain mistakes.

This issue's MTMTE was even more surprising because the mistake came from Ultra Magnus. No, not the hanging participle -- that was deliberate -- I'm talking about using "that" instead of "than." The T and N keys aren't even next to each other on the keyboard, and doesn't anyone every proof read these things before they're approved for printing?! :confused: I know that I've made some errors in my translations for Hasbro, but that's because I have no one to proof read my work (re: non-disclosure clause). And even then, it's been a rare occurrence; I don't make these blatant mistakes in every booklet. Plus my brain is literally thinking in two languages when I'm doing that stuff and I still have to do my day job and family commitments (e.g. I translated LG10 Arcee and MP Sideswipe's booklets right in the middle of an assessment marking/report writing period, and I was teaching a student teacher!). But I'm assuming that writing is what these writers do as their actual paid day jobs... and don't they have editors?!?

I wanted to huddle into foetal position when I read Sunstreaker saying, "my brother and me..." No! It's "my brother and I"! You only say "my brother and me," if you're referring to yourself as the object of a verb or preposition (e.g. "The Ark granted Lamborghini alt modes to my brother and me."), but this was not what Sunstreaker was doing. Gah! And Sunstreaker is not the type of character who would speak in broken English like say the Dinobots or Rumble and Frenzy. Most Transformers actually speak properly.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/avatars/meme_english_samjackson_zpshywenlyr.jpg

[SuspectimusPrime]

Picked up the latest issues of IDW's RiD and MTMTE today, and yet again, both issues contained basic errors. Unless there are no native English speakers on their writing and editorial staff (as is the case with TakaraTOMY etc.), then I cannot fathom why their comics so routinely contain mistakes.

These basic errors has been there since the early issues right? Perhaps a combination of spell-check plus underpaid & overworked entry-level QC sub-editors.


Gah! And Sunstreaker is not the type of character who would speak in broken English like say the Dinobots or Rumble and Frenzy.

Too late! It's canon now! :p

[UltraMarginal]

I wanted to huddle into foetal position when I read Sunstreaker saying, "my brother and me..." No! It's "my brother and I"! You only say "my brother and me," if you're referring to yourself as the object of a verb or preposition (e.g. "The Ark granted Lamborghini alt modes to my brother and me."), but this was not what Sunstreaker was doing. Gah! And Sunstreaker is not the type of character who would speak in broken English like say the Dinobots or Rumble and Frenzy. Most Transformers actually speak properly.



I totally get your point about Magnus, since he is a stickler for doing everything properly, however, a lot of people who are considered to speak 'properly' still have idiosyncrasies in their speech. Personally I've observed very few people ever refer to themselves as 'I' in the sense you are describing.

Perhaps it's an intentional error, a reflection on the imperfections of society.

[Dimi194]

When you find out Pyra Magna's legs are missassembled so she has floppy knees... :(

[GoktimusPrime]

Perhaps it's an intentional error, a reflection on the imperfections of society.
That might be plausible if these errors were consistently made (much like the deliberate speech imperfections in the Dinobots' and Frenzy/Rumble's speech patterns), but it's not. It's entirely haphazard across different characters without rhyme or reason, so it appears to just be sloppy writing and editing. Much like Michael Bay's film editing. But really, these people are professional writers and editors... it's their paid day job to write correctly.

[Zommael]

That might be plausible if these errors were consistently made (much like the deliberate speech imperfections in the Dinobots' and Frenzy/Rumble's speech patterns), but it's not. It's entirely haphazard across different characters without rhyme or reason, so it appears to just be sloppy writing and editing. Much like Michael Bay's film editing. But really, these people are professional writers and editors... it's their paid day job to write correctly.

"My brother and me" is a fairly common usage in day to day speech despite being technically incorrect. In fact, "my brother and I" would normally be seen as a rather stuffy way of phrasing something even if it is technically correct, and would indicate the speaker is a linguistic pedant or snob. I would suggest that the writers' and editors' concern was to avoid Sunstreaker being seen as a snob rather than having him speak "broken" English. No-one ever says "my brother and I" or similar in day to day conversation.

[UltraMarginal]

"My brother and me" is a fairly common usage in day to day speech despite being technically incorrect. In fact, "my brother and I" would normally be seen as a rather stuffy way of phrasing something even if it is technically correct, and would indicate the speaker is a linguistic pedant or snob. I would suggest that the writers' and editors' concern was to avoid Sunstreaker being seen as a snob rather than having him speak "broken" English. No-one ever says "my brother and I" or similar in day to day conversation.

exactly what I was trying to say but said so much better than I.

[Omega Metro]

Bought a MP-11SW over a month ago for $350. But I will never recieve it as the train that it was on derailed in Kalgoorlie and the package 'is not salvageable' according to the courier company. I've been refunded but still peeved.:mad:

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Bought a MP-11SW over a month ago for $350. But I will never recieve it as the train that it was on derailed in Kalgoorlie and the package 'is not salvageable' according to the courier company. I've been refunded but still peeved.:mad:

That's work-lingo for

"A dingo stole my Transformer"

[GoktimusPrime]

But there isn't any consistent pattern of usage to suggest that it's a deliberate choice to represent this character's style of speech. The G1 Dinobots incorrectly switch the use of subject and object pronouns too, but it's done consistently, so it's evident that writers have deliberately done this to create the Dinobot's speaking mannerism. Language errors in the IDW comics appear to just be totally haphazard, which suggests that it's not intentional. I can deal with stylistic language mistakes in stories if it's done consistently to establish that character's idiosyncrasy.

Further linguistic discussion here (http://otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?p=524918#post524918).

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

Idiot Startrack courier dropped my package off at the wrong house! :mad: Luckily the kind people over there decided to call me to tell me about it!

Oh well, plastic crack hit tomorrow, rather than tonight...

[GoktimusPrime]

Et tu, MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!e? (http://otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=21536&page=35)

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

Et tu, MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!e? (http://otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=21536&page=35)

I think in my case it was a just case of incompetence on the courier's part as my address details were correct.

Plus your items could still reach you -- maybe give Startrack a call to confirm which address it's going to?

[GoktimusPrime]

Plus your items could still reach you -- maybe give Startrack a call to confirm which address it's going to?
StarTrack only operates on weekdays, so I can't do anything (except freak out :p) until Monday.

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

StarTrack only operates on weekdays, so I can't do anything (except freak out :p) until Monday.

I managed to get my complaint call in before 6pm, so at least have that satisfaction, plus PC is going to raise the issue with StarTrack as well.

Just relax, it's still in transit and hasn't been delivered -- although after reading Omega Metro's tale of woe, i'd be more worried about the rain screwing up the delivery from QLD to NSW... :p

[GoktimusPrime]

Guh... my PC whoas never end, although this time it's not PC's fault, but the courier's. Was meant to receive MP Ramjet today, but because the consignment arrived at the depot late, they're telling me that I won't get it until tomorrow. :rolleyes: There must be some demon out there determined to stop me from ever punctually receiving any orders from PC. I call this demon Tardor*!

*tardus is Latin for "slow."

[Zommael]

Guh... my PC whoas never end, although this time it's not PC's fault, but the courier's. Was meant to receive MP Ramjet today, but because the consignment arrived at the depot late, they're telling me that I won't get it until tomorrow. :rolleyes: There must be some demon out there determined to stop me from ever punctually receiving any orders from PC. I call this demon Tardor*!

*tardus is Latin for "slow."

It's more likely to be Astaroth, demon of laziness. Although Verrine, demon of impatience, may also be playing a role here... :p

[GoktimusPrime]

At last! (http://otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=525515&postcount=20) It appears I was saved at the last hour by Latrina, the smelly angel of relief! :D :p

[davieanix]

Dammit. My G1 Apeface has broken.

Seems something has happened to the ratchet joint in his ape arm. I tried unscrewing the two halves to try and fix it, but I really have no clue. It's strange, because when the two halves are separated the joint seems to work properly again. But as soon as I tighten them it becomes a floppy mess.

Anyone have any idea how to fix?

[GoktimusPrime]

:( No idea. At least you had a good 29 years with it though. I'd retire it as a display piece and get the Titans Return figure. I know the upcoming one is small, but hopefully they'll release a larger figure later. Doesn't look like a reissue is likely but who knows. :o

[davieanix]

Cheers dude. I actually reckon I've had about 6 months with him though as it was an eBay purchase. I may try take a better look tomorrow and see what I can do.

Pretty happy he's getting a Titans Return fig though! Looking forward to it :)

[GoktimusPrime]

Just be aware that it's only a little Titan Master which looks like this (http://www.ajstoychest.com/assets/images/TF115-04.jpg). The ape accessory can also transform into a jet (http://www.ajstoychest.com/assets/images/TF115-01.jpg), but it's effectively Classicsverse Spasma. I hope that they'll release the "Transtector" later as a Voyager or something. Perhaps the Voyager would only come with 'Spasma' who just transforms into the ape head, and thus you would use the Titan Master Apeface for the robot head. That's what I'd do if I were Hasbro anyway...

Not true... if I were Hasbro, I'd just release the Voyager with a single two-faced Titan Master who can become either head, just like the G1 toy. :p

[Sparks]

Pretty cool for such a small figure, captures the Apeface essence. My favourite of the Titan masters so far :)

[BigTransformerTrev]

My 17 month ok just climbed onto the kitchen table and threw my DOTM coffee mug like a shot put onto the tiles where it exploded. :mad::(:mad:

Didn't know I could still yell that loud. So pissed - I had a mug from each movie. And I can't find one the exact same on eBay. :(:mad::(

[Krayt]

My 17 month ok just climbed onto the kitchen table and threw my DOTM coffee mug like a shot put onto the tiles where it exploded. :mad::(:mad:

Didn't know I could still yell that loud. So pissed - I had a mug from each movie. And I can't find one the exact same on eBay. :(:mad::(

Any pics so the collective can assist the search?

[BigTransformerTrev]

Any pics so the collective can assist the search?

I put a pic on my FB Transformatorium page but I'll pop one up here later - good idea mate

[griffin]

I put a pic on my FB Transformatorium page but I'll pop one up here later - good idea mate

When and where did you get it from?

EDIT - Looks like the Christmas 2010 re-release (noted below) is the version you have, as I can just see in my photo that it is missing the ROTF wording under the TFs logo... which I didn't keep, as I didn't notice it was any different to the version from Easter that I kept.


(what I originally posted before the edit above)
I have one with the same artwork from one of the Easter packs, but it says Revenge of the Fallen under the TFs logo, and has a 2010 copyright date on it. It must have been re-released by the same people (Park Avenue) after that, but I either didn't see it, or didn't get it because it looked the same as my 2010 cup.

http://www.otca.com.au/easter10.jpg
.
http://www.otca.com.au/easter11.jpg
.
http://www.otca.com.au/easter12.jpg

It was also re-released later that year for Christmas (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?p=211801#post211801) with a lolly bag instead of an egg...

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5125/5287608804_bdd9e1b784_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/20439770@N02/5287608804/)
Transformers coffee mug with lollies (http://www.flickr.com/photos/20439770@N02/5287608804/) by griffinofoz (http://www.flickr.com/people/20439770@N02/), on Flickr

Unfortunately it is one of the few Park Avenue TFs mugs that I don't have a spare I could give you (after the first few I would only get one for the collection).... otherwise, someone else might have the non-ROTF version if it is one of those licensed Christmas/Easter ones.

[Jaxius._]

I might have that one. If i do I'll pm you and wash it :)

[BigTransformerTrev]

When and where did you get it from?

EDIT - Looks like the Christmas 2010 re-release (noted below) is the version you have, as I can just see in my photo that it is missing the ROTF wording under the TFs logo... which I didn't keep, as I didn't notice it was any different to the version from Easter that I kept.


(what I originally posted before the edit above)
I have one with the same artwork from one of the Easter packs, but it says Revenge of the Fallen under the TFs logo, and has a 2010 copyright date on it. It must have been re-released by the same people (Park Avenue) after that, but I either didn't see it, or didn't get it because it looked the same as my 2010 cup.

http://www.otca.com.au/easter10.jpg
.
http://www.otca.com.au/easter11.jpg
.
http://www.otca.com.au/easter12.jpg

It was also re-released later that year for Christmas (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?p=211801#post211801) with a lolly bag instead of an egg...

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5125/5287608804_bdd9e1b784_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/20439770@N02/5287608804/)
Transformers coffee mug with lollies (http://www.flickr.com/photos/20439770@N02/5287608804/) by griffinofoz (http://www.flickr.com/people/20439770@N02/), on Flickr

Unfortunately it is one of the few Park Avenue TFs mugs that I don't have a spare I could give you (after the first few I would only get one for the collection).... otherwise, someone else might have the non-ROTF version if it is one of those licensed Christmas/Easter ones.

Yep - that's the mug my daughter used as a ceramic missile. I didn't know the origins of it as it was given to me by a coworker. Mine didn't say ROTF on it so I had assumed it was from DOTM - it must just have been a reissue.

I'll keep an eye out online, I've already got friends on my FB Transformatorium page offering to send me their mugs but that means they wouldn't have one and I dont wanna deprive anyone's collection (so thank you Jaxius but hang onto yours mate) :)

[Jaxius._]

Yep - that's the mug my daughter used as a ceramic missile. I didn't know the origins of it as it was given to me by a coworker. Mine didn't say ROTF on it so I had assumed it was from DOTM - it must just have been a reissue.

I'll keep an eye out online, I've already got friends on my FB Transformatorium page offering to send me their mugs but that means they wouldn't have one and I dont wanna deprive anyone's collection (so thank you Jaxius but hang onto yours mate) :)

Will do then :)
Always happy to help

[Krayt]

.....

I'll keep an eye out online, I've already got friends on my FB Transformatorium page offering to send me their mugs but that means they wouldn't have one and I dont wanna deprive anyone's collection....

You do realise that some of us are TOY collectors.... Mugs are superfluous to the collection and go in the back of the cupboard and never see the light of day (until everyone is sick and a mug is needed for eucalyptus oil hot water combination reasons at bed time)

[Jaxius._]

You do realise that some of us are TOY collectors.... Mugs are superfluous to the collection and go in the back of the cupboard and never see the light of day (until everyone is sick and a mug is needed for eucalyptus oil hot water combination reasons at bed time)

You live in australia in winter! Where's the Milo's, the coffee, the tea?!? :D

[Krayt]

You live in australia in winter! Where's the Milo's, the coffee, the tea?!? :D

In man sized mugs that hold 3 times the volume of these tiny crucibles!

[Deonasis]

You live in australia in winter! Where's the Milo's, the coffee, the tea?!? :D

Not much winter up here (i'll have a cold milo though).

[drifand]

The reason the yellow is off is due to the VW licensing , they had to use the actual color coded paint that was used on the original VW car rather than a toon accurate yellow

I find that is not the case, red alert plus has proved is nothing to do with licensing.

You only need license for the car not colour. Of course nobody wants to say that different.

[BigTransformerTrev]

You do realise that some of us are TOY collectors.... Mugs are superfluous to the collection and go in the back of the cupboard and never see the light of day (until everyone is sick and a mug is needed for eucalyptus oil hot water combination reasons at bed time)

Yeah I know, but I don't wanna take advantage of others generosity. As it is I already have one certain bugger in Melb who keeps giving me free stuff and not accepting anything in return ;)

[Jaxius._]

Yeah I know, but I don't wanna take advantage of others generosity. As it is I already have one certain bugger in Melb who keeps giving me free stuff and not accepting anything in return ;)

Hook me up! ;)

[davieanix]

So just to follow up about my broken Apeface, I actually fixed the ratchet joint!

To keep it brief, there is basically a screw that holds the two crank style pieces together. Somehow it came undone. Anyway, it was a simple fix in the end, as I used a screw driver angled through his cockpit to reach the screw head, and just rotated his arm until it became firm and started clicking again.

Although I'm curious now, does this mean that over rotating ratchet joints is potentially no good for them?

But yeah, I'm so happy!

[GoktimusPrime]

Hazar! :D


Although I'm curious now, does this mean that over rotating ratchet joints is potentially no good for them?
I have no idea. Might be best to ask that here (http://otca.com.au/boards/forumdisplay.php?f=40), and I suspect that kup may be best qualified to answer this question. :)

[UltraMarginal]

So just to follow up about my broken Apeface, I actually fixed the ratchet joint!

To keep it brief, there is basically a screw that holds the two crank style pieces together. Somehow it came undone. Anyway, it was a simple fix in the end, as I used a screw driver angled through his cockpit to reach the screw head, and just rotated his arm until it became firm and started clicking again.

Although I'm curious now, does this mean that over rotating ratchet joints is potentially no good for them?

But yeah, I'm so happy!

Nice work!,
If you mean by over rotating, moving it a lot, there will be some wear, though only noticeable over decades. In this case I'd suggest that over time the friction of the joint has slowly unwound the screw until it came loose. What you've done is most likely the best solution short of installing a spring washer which probably wouldn't fit in the space available.

[Trent]

I find that is not the case, red alert plus has proved is nothing to do with licensing.

You only need license for the car not colour. Of course nobody wants to say that different.

It's good to know you were involved in the licensing negotiations and can tell us all the conditions that VW put on it.

Please tell us more...

[drifand]

It's good to know you were involved in the licensing negotiations and can tell us all the conditions that VW put on it.

Please tell us more...

Unless I am shown a document that says bumble bee is to be this orange colour, I am not convinced it has anything to do with it. It's an old design toy.

And since red alert had no significant boundaries of how a Lamborghini white should be I think the plus version has basically shows is not a colour license issue.

Of course I can be wrong, but I very much doubt Vw is going to cry over what colour they decided to paint as they did red gold with no issues

I grow out of it anyway. I find it funny how people can go one end of the spectrum saying TT is going for screen accuracy and then when is not is said because of license colour?

Another example is Optimus prime, he has solid yellow on his waist but TT does those translucent pieces but hey nobody cares to say is a license thing or is just bad screen accuracy?

[prjkt]

Pretty sure this issue has been ridden so hard it's now barely the dust of an equine skeleton.

With the Lambor mould, the red and yellow editions had to be a set colour due to the licensing conditions to match the colours used by production cars. As Red Alert's colour scheme does not match a standard production car's colour, there's no need to pick a particular shade.

With BB, as the license was issued to Takara by a completely different company, the above info isn't really relevant, but again it seems that VW dictated that if they wanted to use their branding/likeness, they had to do it properly with the correct shade of yellow.

And when bringing up MP10, well, as there's no "official" colour scheme for that vehicle, and there's far less prestige to the brand, it seems quite clear the license was much more open to Takara (if the indeed actually got one.)

[drifand]

I think what I am saying is if it's not from a TT representatives spokesman, I don't think we really know the actual reason or deal within the colour.

Imo we are making them up as they are possible answers but it's not a confirm answer. Mind you it is possibly correct but I do open my speculation if that's is actually the case.

[griffin]

I think what I am saying is if it's not from a TT representatives spokesman, I don't think we really know the actual reason or deal within the colour.

Then please stop bringing it up (please), as it has been discussed at length before, and each time it resurfaces, it just annoys others who have since moved on from the discussion.

[BigTransformerTrev]

If I'd resisted I could have Victorion today. But nope, sitting in my BBTS pol.

At leAst even with conversion rates and postage the price works out the same. And having her in does lower the postage overall for other figures

[UltraMarginal]

If I'd resisted I could have Victorion today. But nope, sitting in my BBTS pol.

At leAst even with conversion rates and postage the price works out the same. And having her in does lower the postage overall for other figures

As my Wife says 'you're practically saving money!:rolleyes:'

yes, the roll eyes is inside the quotes. :D

[Krayt]

Huge first world problem....

Stupid funpub exclusives....

Works sending me away again.... I get to Italy on the last day of the uk con that is stocking the sold out Botcon exclusives and attending.

So so so so tempted to try and fly to London, go to the hotel (right outside airport) and then back to where I need to be.... But gah I might get delayed.... But man I want those toys... But damn about 1k for toys and flights...

[BigTransformerTrev]

Huge first world problem....

Stupid funpub exclusives....

Works sending me away again.... I get to Italy on the last day of the uk con that is stocking the sold out Botcon exclusives and attending.

So so so so tempted to try and fly to London, go to the hotel (right outside airport) and then back to where I need to be.... But gah I might get delayed.... But man I want those toys... But damn about 1k for toys and flights...

Good luck weary traveller - hope it works out for ya :D

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Dammit, got my unite warriors Conbaticons and liking them. But Onlsaught's funky knees annoy me.

Work out hat to do. Yay. One done. The other one is seriously seized up. It's like its got some goddamn glue in the bloody thing:mad:

[Sinnertwin]

whip out the ol' hair dryer and give it a quick blast

[GoktimusPrime]

Or considering that you're in Japan, you could just bring it back to the store for an exchange. ;) And if the store are unable to do so, contact TakaraTOMY'sｓcustomer care and request a replacement part.

0570-041031 (http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/support/other.html)

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Can't be arsed messing aroind with it, so going to return it. I got it fron amazon, so that'll be the way to go.

[BigTransformerTrev]

Played my arse off to get a Premium crystal in the event in the TF Earth Wars game and all it gave me was a double of a lvl 2 character I already had :mad:

[UltraMarginal]

Played my arse off to get a Premium crystal in the event in the TF Earth Wars game and all it gave me was a double of a lvl 2 character I already had :mad:

I really wanted to like that game but I've been struggling to bother playing it lately.

[Jaxius._]

Stopped playing after a day

[MayzaPrime]

I have given up on it... It was fun to begin with, but now I am sick it, since they made the changes to the battles and energon resources.

[BigTransformerTrev]

I really wanted to like that game but I've been struggling to bother playing it lately.


Stopped playing after a day


I have given up on it... It was fun to begin with, but now I am sick it, since they made the changes to the battles and energon resources.

In still mucking about with it but running out of patience at the higher levels - takes forever to get enough Energon to upgrade anything and if you don't play for a day your reserves get raiding down to nothing

[ampoldj]

I have given up on it... It was fun to begin with, but now I am sick it, since they made the changes to the battles and energon resources.

yeah it is just too difficult getting resources you end up stuck waiting and battling where you have to wait again for your bots to be ready...too much time consuming game.

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

whip out the ol' hair dryer and give it a quick blast
Good idea, I always forget about that easy solution.
but...

Just gave that a crack and sadly not a budge. It's way too humid here for exerting this much effort on a toy's knee. Back he goes.

[Bladestorm]

Has anyone found the Titans Returns figures limbs become "loose" and "floppy" very quickly?

We've has Skullsmasher for a few days and his legs sway (and he can't support himself to stand in robot mode) the limbs are so loose. None of our Combiner Wars figures have the issue and they're much older.
Similarly my son got Hardhead today and even out of the plastic his legs seem quite floppy although he can at least stand up on his own.

I noticed this on the tape figures too when I got to test drive them the other day at the Hasbro HK event.

Just wondering if we're unlucky or others are experiencing this too...

[Mythirax]

Has anyone found the Titans Returns figures limbs become "loose" and "floppy" very quickly?

We've has Skullsmasher for a few days and his legs sway (and he can't support himself to stand in robot mode) the limbs are so loose. None of our Combiner Wars figures have the issue and they're much older.
Similarly my son got Hardhead today and even out of the plastic his legs seem quite floppy although he can at least stand up on his own.

I noticed this on the tape figures too when I got to test drive them the other day at the Hasbro HK event.

Just wondering if we're unlucky or others are experiencing this too...

Out of curiosity are they Hasbro or Takara? I've not purchased any CW or TW yet. So if this holds true, and the hasbro ones are a bit eh. I might just buy it all as Takara, when I burst buy at some point.

[Bladestorm]

Out of curiosity are they Hasbro or Takara? I've not purchased any CW or TW yet. So if this holds true, and the hasbro ones are a bit eh. I might just buy it all as Takara, when I burst buy at some point.

I haven't seen any Takara ones yet... only Hasbro are available at the moment.
I'm just surprised given CW figures are so robust... and believe me my son plays with his CW figures in active play every single day and they are all still going strong. Yet after 2 days of play the Skullsmasher legs swing around.

[UltraMarginal]

I'm pretty sure most of the TW stuff isn't available in Oz yet. if I remember I'll comment when I finally get hold of some.

[Sinnertwin]

Yah, it's just the 1st wave of Legends class figures at Toymate stores

[Bladestorm]

I'm pretty sure most of the TW stuff isn't available in Oz yet. if I remember I'll comment when I finally get hold of some.

Ah ok... I just assumed because Fort Max is out there most of wave 1 would also be available since Wave 1 came out here and Fort Max a few days after the wave 1 TR figures.

Please do comment on looseness of limbs to anyone get gets any of the figures as I'm curious if we're just getting an unlucky batch of figures here in HK.

[Mythirax]

Hopefully Takara's turn out better then :)

[prjkt]

The bloody TFCC club sent out the "free" figure to Americans on the 2nd of June. To everyone else? The 24th. You'd think that they'd want everyone to get them about the same time and send the international ones first
Dammit, got my unite warriors Conbaticons and liking them. But Onlsaught's funky knees annoy me.

Work out hat to do. Yay. One done. The other one is seriously seized up. It's like its got some goddamn glue in the bloody thing:mad:

My copy is the same, didn't want to force it too much and break him, so it'll just be combined mode only for this guy.

[GoktimusPrime]

Is a refund/exchange out of the question?

[Krayt]

The bloody TFCC club sent out the "free" figure to Americans on the 2nd of June. To everyone else? The 24th. You'd think that they'd want everyone to get them about the same time and send the international ones first


What's worse.... every thing i've had from ebay global that did this (fedex to here, then auspost) had an imaginary, made up "delivery due date" which was basically the last day of the "takes xxx days to arrive".

What's this mean? well my stuff always got to AUS nice and quick.... then was sat at Fedex until 2 days before "xxx date", which is when they hand over to Auspost.

At least with those i had tracking number to watch.... and i'd drive to Fedex and collect myself... but this could wait for ages!!

[Krayt]

I think I hate travelling!!!

Wave 1 of TR is in Hong Kong airport except blaster..... As well as nearly all the movie anniversary packs... And even YOTX starscream!

Must be patient......

[Bladestorm]

I think I hate travelling!!!

Wave 1 of TR is in Hong Kong airport except blaster..... As well as nearly all the movie anniversary packs... And even YOTX starscream!

Must be patient......

Blaster was probably there but sold. He's shelf warming in most stores here while Optimus is flying off the shelves. :) Don't pay too much for YOTH Starscream as he too is a shelf warmer and retails for around HK$300.

[Krayt]

Blaster was probably there but sold. He's shelf warming in most stores here while Optimus is flying off the shelves. :) Don't pay too much for YOTH Starscream as he too is a shelf warmer and retails for around HK$300.

Couldn't take with me for the start of the trip.. And store won't be open on the way home....


But 300 is cheaper than the 30% off they said.... You should start supplying us Aussies with screamers!

[Chewbs]

Just had my MP Loud Pedal's shin panel snap clean off on the first transformation out of the box.

[Bladestorm]

Couldn't take with me for the start of the trip.. And store won't be open on the way home....


But 300 is cheaper than the 30% off they said.... You should start supplying us Aussies with screamers!
If I could figure out an easy way to ship the big stuff over to Oz without costing a fortune I would gladly do it in a heartbeat.

[kup]

Why are MP StarSaber's elbows so damn weak!

[griffin]

It really annoys me to see parts of toys stolen, spoiling the whole thing, or ruining a child's enjoyment when their parent buys it not realising something is missing...

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/blog/d218.jpg

Both should have a dog in that space on the right side.

[GoktimusPrime]

Question for those who work in retail: does this sort of thing happen more frequently during school hols?

[Handsprime]

Is it just me, or is sentinel prime's Titan masters head in the wrong way?

[GoktimusPrime]

Link?

[griffin]

My Combiner Wars Gen2 Menasor arrived a little crushed, most likely from the postal service (here or in America, as it was from Amazon)... :(

It had so much pressure on the top of the front surface of the box, it pushed one of Motormaster's exhausts through the box and pushed up one of the front wheels so that it snapped off two of the three tabs that hold it in the hole.

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/blog/d287.jpg

At least the wheel is the same colour as the regular Motormaster, so one day I might come across a cheap junker to replace it.
(I'm not going to try to get it replaced by Amazon because it doesn't look like it was done before it was sent, and it wouldn't be right to get it replaced by an Australian retailer, as it would waste a whole set just for one wheel that I can eventually get from a regular Motormaster.)

[Krayt]

My Combiner Wars Gen2 Menasor arrived a little crushed, most likely from the postal service (here or in America, as it was from Amazon)... :(

It had so much pressure on the top of the front surface of the box, it pushed one of Motormaster's exhausts through the box and pushed up one of the front wheels so that it snapped off two of the three tabs that hold it in the hole.

....

At least the wheel is the same colour as the regular Motormaster, so one day I might come across a cheap junker to replace it.
(I'm not going to try to get it replaced by Amazon because it doesn't look like it was done before it was sent, and it wouldn't be right to get it replaced by an Australian retailer, as it would waste a whole set just for one wheel that I can eventually get from a regular Motormaster.)

Bossman.... I have some white primes here I got to cannibalise the hip ratchets... Wheels are yours if you want them

[griffin]

Bossman.... I have some white primes here I got to cannibalise the hip ratchets... Wheels are yours if you want them

Only if you aren't going to need them... that would be great if I can have one.
I wonder if it would be thin enough to go in a letter envelope and not cost more in postage. If it is too fat, I can get it off you next time I'm in Melbourne (which would be Toyfair in March).
Let me know if you need my address.
Thanks. :)

[UltraMarginal]

Surely it's at least worth notifying Amazon, I realise that they ship cheaply to save money but seriously, damage is damage and it's theirs and the postal systems responsibility.

[GoktimusPrime]

^Agreed, I think it's worth giving the feedback. If it were purchased from Amazon themselves then I don't think that it's unreasonable to enquire about a replacement.

[millhouse]

I would contact Amazon politely. Every time I've had something damaged in transit, they've been super great to deal with, even if I've had to send the damaged one back and be reimbursed.

[philby]

+1 for talking to amazon. they sent me replacement IDW hardcover volumes because my order was damaged in transit. the replacements weren't really packed any better and still seemed damaged but but i can now choose the least bad of the bunch...

[GoktimusPrime]

Part of my garage where I keep my Transformers board games got wet and I didn't see it because the game boxes covered it up. Some of my game boxes got damp and mouldy, not to mention some warping on the boxes from being wet. :( Some of the Transformers boxes that I decided to keep are also against the same wall but along a different part -- I pulled one box out and inspected the side that sits against the wall and there's no sign of water damage there.

My daughter has allowed me to keep my TF board games in her room (since I mostly just play them with her anyway)... but still frustrating.

[Bladestorm]

I have decided as a parent I really HATE the Titans Return figures. Sorting my son's room out and finding numerous new figures WITHOUT their heads and thus having to hunt through his containers to find the darn things is incredibly frustrating! :o
He, of course, thinks it is funny to pose 'headless' figures... and that mummy will find the heads for him. Sigh!

[Golden Phoenix]

I have decided as a parent I really HATE the Titans Return figures. Sorting my son's room out and finding numerous new figures WITHOUT their heads and thus having to hunt through his containers to find the darn things is incredibly frustrating! :o
He, of course, thinks it is funny to pose 'headless' figures... and that mummy will find the heads for him. Sigh!

Could turn it around on him and hide the heads from him :P

[GoktimusPrime]

Or let him find all of his own Titan Master heads and tell him that he won't be getting any more Transformers until he can find them all and take care of his toys. My daughter likes Shopkins and a few weeks ago I discovered that her collector's case was missing about 80% of her toys. She told me that she had "traded" them, and by trade I mean she gave away almost all of her collection in exchange for two figurines. :eek: I explained to her that this wasn't a fair trade and told her that she would not be allowed to buy any more Shopkins until she trades them all back from her school friends. She managed to retrieve most of what she lost, but not all of them. So we no longer buy Shopkins for her. Now if she wants any she'll have to use her own money. The most I'll do is buy one for her but she has to pay me back when we get home. And the only reason that I agreed to this was because the mother of the friend who took most of the Shopkins said that they had searched their house for as many as they could find to give back to my daughter - so her friend has probably lost the Shopkins that weren't returned.

I also took her into my Transformers room and pointed out my 1984 figures and said that I was the same age as her when I started collecting Transformers and that the reason why I still have all of my childhood toys still in my collection is because I tried my best to take care of them. I told her that if she really cared about her Shopkins then she should take care of them, and if not then she clearly can't be that interested in them in which case there's no point in collecting any more. So I gave her a choice - either take care of them and keep on collecting, or stop collecting them if she doesn't want to take care of them properly.

[Bladestorm]

I like the idea of 'no more figures until you put all the heads back'. Think I'll use that one!
Don't get me wrong - he takes good care of his Transformers; he just thinks "losing" the heads of the headmasters elsewhere than their bodies is funny and I don't... especially when I stood on the head of Hardhead today walking into his room - it's as bad as the dreaded Lego! ;)

We had a similar experience to you with Moshi Monsters a few years back Gok. I think unfortunately our kids are too nice and get taken advantage of until we step in and teach them sometimes it is ok to keep things for yourself.
After the Moshi experience my son is very watchful of his Transformers and would never consider taking them to school as he's too paranoid about other people breaking them. He even moves his favourite figures into my bedroom when friends come over to ensure they won't get damaged.

[Chevron Action Flash]

I have decided as a parent I really HATE the Titans Return figures. Sorting my son's room out and finding numerous new figures WITHOUT their heads and thus having to hunt through his containers to find the darn things is incredibly frustrating! :o
He, of course, thinks it is funny to pose 'headless' figures... and that mummy will find the heads for him. Sigh!

You should hide the bodies and just leave the heads on the shelf. That'll cause some panic.

Anyway, good to know I'm not the only parent who spends too much time hunting for their kids' misplaced toys and accessories.

[UltraMarginal]

I have decided as a parent I really HATE the Titans Return figures. Sorting my son's room out and finding numerous new figures WITHOUT their heads and thus having to hunt through his containers to find the darn things is incredibly frustrating! :o
He, of course, thinks it is funny to pose 'headless' figures... and that mummy will find the heads for him. Sigh!

That's Hilarious! (I say as a collector without kids)


You should hide the bodies and just leave the heads on the shelf. That'll cause some panic.

Anyway, good to know I'm not the only parent who spends too much time hunting for their kids' misplaced toys and accessories.

This is also Hilarious!

[SharkyMcShark]

You should hide the bodies and just leave the heads on the shelf. That'll cause some panic.


Meawhile, in this week's edition of "Things Said On OTCA That Should Never Be Repeated Without Context"...

[prjkt]

Meawhile, in this week's edition of "Things Said On OTCA That Should Never Be Repeated Without Context"...

:D:D

[VERT]

I NEED A LIKE BUTTON :D