Bay to do TMNT

[kup]

My guess is if you're asking people on this forum which they prefer the majority are going to select the first picture because it's what most of us grew up with (if going by Trev's 'Average age of your Transformers Fan/Ozformers Member'). I would too. But I'm open to change and interpretation. We went through the same thing when images of TF1 were released and Optimus Prime had a mouth. We're all used to it by now. It's a generational thing.

I am not used to Prime's mouth ;)

I reposted that from FB. I think the comparison is interesting to say the least.

[Lint]

We went through the same thing when images of TF1 were released and Optimus Prime had a mouth. We're all used to it by now. It's a generational thing.

The mouth is the least of the problems I have adjusting to the movieverse Prime. It's the fact that he's a bloodthirsty, merciless and extremely destructive killing machine that only sees issues in black and white.

The biggest problem I have with this new April is that she is a journalist/reporter that's using a cameraphone to record the scoop of the century :p

[Paulbot]

The biggest problem I have with this new April is that she is a journalist/reporter that's using a cameraphone to record the scoop of the century :p

Don't worry, Will Arnett's in the movie as Vern, April's cameraman. Proper cameraman, not smartphone user. He's just not in this trailer.

[Trent]

The mouth is the least of the problems I have adjusting to the movieverse Prime. It's the fact that he's a bloodthirsty, merciless and extremely destructive killing machine that only sees issues in black and white.

This attitude amuses me. How would you have someone who has watched his enemies destroy his entire planet and race over a period of millennia act?

You'd be out there claiming decepticon faces left right and centre too ;)

[Gutsman Heavy]

The biggest problem I have with this new April is that she is a journalist/reporter that's using a cameraphone to record the scoop of the century :p

So an accurate interpretation of the newest generation of journalists?

[griffin]

This attitude amuses me. How would you have someone who has watched his enemies destroy his entire planet and race over a period of millennia act?

You'd be out there claiming decepticon faces left right and centre too ;)

But Optimus Prime in the original cartoons and comics was our Generation's Superman - he stood for everything that was right, and taking a life was a last-resort... even to the point of sacrificing his own life if it was the honourable thing to do (Marvel Gen1 #24).
If a new Superman movie was produced that had him killing offenders, or even trying to kill Lex Luthor, there would be an outrage, because that is not the "pure" character that Superman stands for that inspired so many kids (and some grown-ups).
You trust him because he has never broken that faith in him.
The character of Optimus Prime in probably every incarnation before Bay got his hands onto it, was similarly one that fans could look up to, as a "hero" who never compromised his honour to defeat the enemy.
To Bay, Optimus was just another "wild west, gun-toting American".

[Trent]

But Optimus Prime in the original cartoons and comics was our Generation's Superman - he stood for everything that was right, and taking a life was a last-resort... even to the point of sacrificing his own life if it was the honourable thing to do (Marvel Gen1 #24).
If a new Superman movie was produced that had him killing offenders, or even trying to kill Lex Luthor, there would be an outrage, because that is not the "pure" character that Superman stands for that inspired so many kids (and some grown-ups).
You trust him because he has never broken that faith in him.
The character of Optimus Prime in probably every incarnation before Bay got his hands onto it, was similarly one that fans could look up to, as a "hero" who never compromised his honour to defeat the enemy.
To Bay, Optimus was just another "wild west, gun-toting American".

And that is awesome about Prime, but how many cybertronian and human lives have his morals cost? Prime has had countless chances to kill Megatron in every continuity, but his inaction has ALWAYS gone on to cost many more lives. Quite personally while I admire Prime's values, I wouldn't follow him. He is an ineffective leader, time and again putting his morals above the lives of those he is trying to protect.

Hence why I love Dai Atlas. There was a bot who could get shit done! (http://youtu.be/C3PYqjveSgM) :cool:

[Paulbot]

Some Splinter action in this new TV ad for the movie http://youtu.be/LKj86rl4gPQ

[kup]

Some Splinter action in this new TV ad for the movie http://youtu.be/LKj86rl4gPQ

I can barely see him but from what I could make out, he seems to be a Chinese 'Fu-ManChu' stereotype.

[Lint]

This attitude amuses me. How would you have someone who has watched his enemies destroy his entire planet and race over a period of millennia act?

You'd be out there claiming decepticon faces left right and centre too ;)

So our champion is a mentally scarred war-hero? A robotic Frank Castle? :D
Frank Castle is the Punisher to save some a google search :p


And that is awesome about Prime, but how many cybertronian and human lives have his morals cost? Prime has had countless chances to kill Megatron in every continuity, but his inaction has ALWAYS gone on to cost many more lives. Quite personally while I admire Prime's values, I wouldn't follow him. He is an ineffective leader, time and again putting his morals above the lives of those he is trying to protect.

By your logic the best thing Prime could ever have done was simply to step aside and let Megatron win. Honestly this would save the most lives however the quality of those lives may be brought to question. Many real-world leaders and un-sung heroes have done this in our history. Anyway makes for a crap movie and we're not here to debate philosophy:p

Back to TMNT

I hope Splinter gets some decent screen time and doesn't become a macguffin the turtles need to rescue. It would be great if we get a master yoda type treatment where we see him completely dominate some foot.

[BigTransformerTrev]

I've seen the odd trailer for the movie. Sorta interested and sorta not. As it is I've missed the last couple of Turtle flicks.

What's with the latest TMNT cartoon though? :confused: I saw it this morning - using the TMNT cartoon I grew up with as a reference, Donatello now has Raphael's voice and April O'Neil has gone from a reporter who had a rack so huge it's a wonder she didn't have back problems to a teenager with latent psychic abilities - it totally weirded me out! :eek: I will say though, it's the first time that the TMNT have really been obviously animated as teenagers so I thought that was kinda cool.

[kup]

I've seen the odd trailer for the movie. Sorta interested and sorta not. As it is I've missed the last couple of Turtle flicks.

What's with the latest TMNT cartoon though? :confused: I saw it this morning - using the TMNT cartoon I grew up with as a reference, Donatello now has Raphael's voice and April O'Neil has gone from a reporter who had a rack so huge it's a wonder she didn't have back problems to a teenager with latent psychic abilities - it totally weirded me out! :eek: I will say though, it's the first time that the TMNT have really been obviously animated as teenagers so I thought that was kinda cool.

There is a big following for the new Nick Ninja Turtles but I frankly don't see the appeal. I am more of a fan of 2003 Turtles.

I don't think you need to have watched anything before seeing Bay Turtles. You probably don't even need to see the beginning of the movie to follow the plot as there will likely not be any.

[i_amtrunks]

New trailer (#3) looks very good, and it would seem that the focus falls a fair part on my favourite turtle!

Megan Fox looks like she will be struggling through most of this film, like a fish gaping on the bottom of a boat.

[Sinnertwin]

i just want some new turtle toys

[5FDP]

Megan Fox looks like she will be struggling through most of this film, like a fish gaping on the bottom of a boat.

She's eye candy in this movie, nothing more, nothing less. I'm comfortable with that :D

[TAAUBlaster]

Just saw on IMDB that we don't get the movie until September. Kinda suprised we are getting it so late.

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Just saw on IMDB that we don't get the movie until September. Kinda suprised we are getting it so late.

For school holidays? Or it could mean they don't expect it to do well. The months before and after Christmas (sept/oct/nov/Feb/mar)are really quiet in cinemas and when the majority of either crappy or smaller movies are released so they don't compete with the big ones.

[millhouse]

For school holidays? Or it could mean they don't expect it to do well. The months before and after Christmas (sept/oct/nov/Feb/mar)are really quiet in cinemas and when the majority of either crappy or smaller movies are released so they don't compete with the big ones.

As someone who managed a cinema, I can tell you that any time around school holidays is premium when it comes to films appealing to ten year olds.

Definitely a delay because of the school holidays.

Shame really, I refuse to pay premium prices for a month old movie.

[Burn]

Not to mention how many people will download it before then.

[TAAUBlaster]

Ah, right. I didn't even think about school holidays. :/
Can't really imagine TMNT doing too well with the younger kids (who go to see school holiday movies) judging by the tone of the movie from the trailers.

[Paulbot]

Ah, right. I didn't even think about school holidays. :/
Can't really imagine TMNT doing too well with the younger kids (who go to see school holiday movies) judging by the tone of the movie from the trailers.

I think people would have said the same thing 24 years ago, when I was that younger kid going to school holiday movies and the original TMNT movie came out and critics were going on about how it was too violent and a bad influence and unsuitable for kids.

I also can't believe how long ago that was.

[TAAUBlaster]

I think people would have said the same thing 24 years ago, when I was that younger kid going to school holiday movies and the original TMNT movie came out and critics were going on about how it was too violent and a bad influence and unsuitable for kids.

I also can't believe how long ago that was.

You have a good point ;)
And back then we had the original toon that got us interested first, and gave us a reason to want to see the movie.
I guess the new Nick toon will do the same thing for today's kids too.

[kup]

Not to mention how many people will download it before then.

I can't wait for the next corporate Fatcat stooge to complain why Australians pirate so much.

[drifand]

I think people would have said the same thing 24 years ago, when I was that younger kid going to school holiday movies and the original TMNT movie came out and critics were going on about how it was too violent and a bad influence and unsuitable for kids.

I also can't believe how long ago that was.

Thats because TMNT was initially release for mature audiences in the comics. None of this blue, red, orange and pruple bs.

[VGMStudios]

how is giving them colored bandanas taking away from the maturity of what TMNT was initially targeted to?
I know why they did give them colors but I dont get why you think its BS?

*purple.

Edit: For some reason Bay's Donnie reminds me to much of Ghostbusters. I think its the head gear.... I just cant take him seriously when he looks like that.
Im always thinking he is going to fight ghosts and isnt a ninja. ha.

[loophole]

Well the new figures are out!! And they look absolutely horrible!!

[Spiritprime]

From the looks of the tv spots and short clips... this is turning out to be the Turtles movie I've always wanted! And I heard during a behind the scenes video... COWABUNGA!

[GoktimusPrime]

I think people would have said the same thing 24 years ago, when I was that younger kid going to school holiday movies and the original TMNT movie came out and critics were going on about how it was too violent and a bad influence and unsuitable for kids.

I also can't believe how long ago that was.
I remember my teacher advising us against watching that movie and how it "contains 172 acts of violence" or something like that. Made us want to watch it more. ;) I remember joining a really long line that went around the street corner to buy tickets, then after that going to play the TMNT arcade game until the session time started. :D

[Paulbot]

You can't blame Michael Bay for this, but today Paramount released a poster that included: the Turtles, a New York City building being destroyed and a date of September 11 (http://mumbrella.com.au/paramount-pictures-removes-controversial-911-ninja-turtles-poster-social-media-241539).

Good one.

[kup]

You can't blame Michael Bay for this, but today Paramount released a poster that included: the Turtles, a New York City building being destroyed and a date of September 11 (http://mumbrella.com.au/paramount-pictures-removes-controversial-911-ninja-turtles-poster-social-media-241539).

Good one.

Somehow not surprised. A lot of sociopaths in Hollywood so they would not understand how something like that would affect people. Anything to make a buck.

I know the poster is Australian but it needs to be approved first. They just thought they could get away with it in another region.

[Sinnertwin]

That's worse than "music to crash your car to" by mötley crüe

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/razzle-hanoi-rocks-killed/

I don't know anymore...

[Defcon]

So the US gets this movie in August, and we have to wait till September, well thats just sad. So they want to release it a month later and make more money, good for them :D I guess they don't want to lose sales to Guardians of the Galaxy.

[5FDP]

These studios never learn. If it's not a worldwide simultaneous release, you're just inviting people to download the movie instead. Do they not get it? It's called the 'world wide web' for a reason. Local distribution means nothing these days ;)

[Bartrim]

I think people would have said the same thing 24 years ago, when I was that younger kid going to school holiday movies and the original TMNT movie came out and critics were going on about how it was too violent and a bad influence and unsuitable for kids.

I also can't believe how long ago that was.

On that note I present...

The Honest Trailer for TMNT 2:D

[5FDP]

On that note I present...

The Honest Trailer for TMNT 2:D

I'm guessing that there was supposed to be a link posted with that comment ;) :p

[Bartrim]

I'm guessing that there was supposed to be a link posted with that comment ;) :p


Exit stage left :o:o:o:o:o:o

Here it is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSvTkMPB9mI

[millhouse]

Saw the new dubstep trailer. Looks shite. Disappointing, because I liked the first trailer.

[Jay-Tron]

Exit stage left :o:o:o:o:o:o

Here it is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSvTkMPB9mI

LMAO at that trailor.

[Paulbot]

With just preview screenings last weekend, TMNT is number one at the Aussie box office. Pretty good effort.

The more I've seen in trailers/ads etc the more I think it could be okay. Sure there's a Bay-filter over the top of the film, the noses and clothes are weird but the general forms are okay, and April is unlikely to be well served compared to her first film outing, but it still appears to be more consistent to the original properties than TF films.

I'm going to be checking it out as soon as I can and hope for the best.

[VERT]

I saw it a few weeks ago........internet....

It is better than I expected. But they did make a few changes to tmnt law im not happy about. Mirage studios or old tmnt toon law both ignored for new even more hard to believe one.

[Paulbot]

I started this thread because I was a naysayer. I saw this movie today and am now a yay-sayer.

Will avoid plot, joke and easter egg spoilers here...

I really enjoyed this. I think it did everything right that Transformers did wrong. It was clearly respectful of and inspired by what went before. I feel like there's a bit of everything in the mix here (original comics, original cartoon, original movie, modern
cartoons) and it works. The individual easter egg-style nods are great to spot.

The movie is fun, and funny (without needing toilet humour and "happy time" jokes). The action was good, easy to follow and the Turtles are tough. Shredder was a tough opponent, a little gimmicky but a threat. Splinter got to shine. The Turtle designs worked. The clothes, noses etc don't look good as static toys but they work in the movie.

Going in I was most concerned about April, but Megan Fox was great. Her April was proactive and a driver of the plot. Although an object of desire she is no one's love interest and barely a damsel in distress. If she'd only played this character in the TF films, and the Witwickys had been ditched. (I never mind her in TF really, she's just over made up and the Bay controlled camera too sleezy).

On the con side, there is a bit of over-the-top product placement (but not at the TF film level). It's probably just a little bit too long, and it's a little violent for the little ones. Also not enough Whoopi.

I'm a lapsed TMNT fan and I hear more recent takes are really good too, but this really worked for me.

[drifand]

It's okay, still not what I have portrayed in the real comics. I welcome chris Nolan to have a take in this instead.

[Lint]

I started this thread because I was a naysayer. I saw this movie today and am now a yay-sayer.

Will avoid plot, joke and easter egg spoilers here...

I really enjoyed this. I think it did everything right that Transformers did wrong. It was clearly respectful of and inspired by what went before. I feel like there's a bit of everything in the mix here (original comics, original cartoon, original movie, modern
cartoons) and it works. The individual easter egg-style nods are great to spot.

The movie is fun, and funny (without needing toilet humour and "happy time" jokes). The action was good, easy to follow and the Turtles are tough. Shredder was a tough opponent, a little gimmicky but a threat. Splinter got to shine. The Turtle designs worked. The clothes, noses etc don't look good as static toys but they work in the movie.

Going in I was most concerned about April, but Megan Fox was great. Her April was proactive and a driver of the plot. Although an object of desire she is no one's love interest and barely a damsel in distress. If she'd only played this character in the TF films, and the Witwickys had been ditched. (I never mind her in TF really, she's just over made up and the Bay controlled camera too sleezy).

On the con side, there is a bit of over-the-top product placement (but not at the TF film level). It's probably just a little bit too long, and it's a little violent for the little ones. Also not enough Whoopi.

I'm a lapsed TMNT fan and I hear more recent takes are really good too, but this really worked for me.

Wow I thought this would be a write-off for sure. Might have to give it a go after such high praise!

[Sinnertwin]

It's okay, still not what I have portrayed in the real comics. I welcome chris Nolan to have a take in this instead.

Christopher Nolan? You're kidding, right?

[Paulbot]

Wow I thought this would be a write-off for sure. Might have to give it a go after such high praise!

It's possible my Turtles nostalgia combined with going in with low expectations put me in a good spot to enjoy this. I've read some reviews since that point out some of the flaws but I still had a good time watching it.

[Starscream77]

It's okay, still not what I have portrayed in the real comics. I welcome chris Nolan to have a take in this instead.

Why not Martin Scorcese?

Really ??? :rolleyes:

[Dead End]

The thing I hate most about Bay movies are the cringeworthy Bay invented comic relief characters (that everyone else in the cinema cacks themselves over) Hopefully Mikey means that spot's already taken it.

Might have to give it a go after reading this though, and yes...low expectations.

[VGMStudios]

So is April still Shredders daughter?
Is Shredder Japanese?

About Splinter, where did he come from?

[loophole]

This movie was horrible, I'll stick to the original live action film...

[Paulbot]

So is April still Shredders daughter?
Is Shredder Japanese?

About Splinter, where did he come from?

Maybe spoilers, so

Is April still Shredders daughter? No, was she ever?

Is Shredder Japanese? Yes

About Splinter, where did he come from? Pretty much the same place as in the current IDW comics, a lab, but without the past life reincarnation stuff

[VGMStudios]

Thanks Paulbot.
I remembered in one of the earlier trailers some guy was telling April that Shredder was her father. I was like O_o`

Did they change anything from the original story?
I know, I know, I can watch it and find out, but I dont want to watch this until I find out more about it. My disgust with it is already borderline with the designs of the turtles.

[Paulbot]

If by original story you mean the black and white comics, then yes they changed a lot of things. There's inspiration from most (maybe all) of the various versions of TMNT.

On the plus side, they are definitely not aliens. On the downside, Daredevil is not involved in their origin.

As I say I think it's closest to the current IDW comic origin but the general broad strokes origin is still in play. It's much closer than the TF movie is to the original TF story(s).

[VGMStudios]

Alright. Glad to know its not to different. I knew it wouldnt follow the true origin story but be some incarnation of it.

I just learned that there will be a squeal.. Not sure how I feel about that yet.

[5FDP]

I watched this last weekend and it's easily the best Turtles movie to date.

[UltraMarginal]

I tried for weeks to get My wife or friends to come watch this with me, the weekend I was going to go see it on my own and it's no longer showing. looks like a rental some time down the track.

[Hursticon]

It was indeed an enjoyable film, however I was constantly taken out of the film whenever Mikey would talk/refer to April: WTF was up with that? - "Hello baby, Oh! - My shell's getting tighter!"... !?! :confused::mad:

How they explained the whole Ninjitsu/Ancient Japanese Teachings of the Turtles and (More so) Splinter was just ridiculous and a last-minute thought which clearly few neurons were committed. :rolleyes:

There were also some scenes that were very obviously "3D"-scenes and in a 2D viewing looked like bad '90s CG composition, like, "Next Mutation" level! - Specifically one where it's Splinter & April standing face to face, April wasn't even looking in Splinter's direction for Pete's sake! :rolleyes::p

I also agree with those that felt the film was too April-centric; it damn well was and though the Brothers Green got more screen time than any Transformer did in a film of the last decade, they still deserved more I feel. :o

Beyond those issues I quite enjoyed it and am looking forward to its sequel, hopefully with less Mikey/April sexual innuendo and more Turtles in general - I will also say that the guy doing Donnie's voice sure does do a good Rob Paulsen impersonation. :cool:

[Paulbot]

How they explained the whole Ninjitsu/Ancient Japanese Teachings of the Turtles and (More so) Splinter was just ridiculous and a last-minute thought which clearly few neurons were committed. :rolleyes:


Is Splinter being "a pet of my master Yoshi, mimicking his movements from my cage and learning the mysterious art of Ninjitsu" much better? Or the reincarnation stuff in the IDW comics?

At least 2014Movie Splinter learnt from a book by some talented guys I believe... ;)

[Hursticon]

Is Splinter being "a pet of my master Yoshi, mimicking his movements from my cage and learning the mysterious art of Ninjitsu" much better? Or the reincarnation stuff in the IDW comics?

At least 2014Movie Splinter learnt from a book by some talented guys I believe... ;)

I feel the original cartoon's origins would've worked better, as I just can't see 15 years being enough time to master an art to a "Miyagi"-level, you know?... Plus that little Rat puppet in the cage in the original was just cool! :D

It was the weakest part of the film for me and I feel it's likely a result of that mid-production halt the film experienced. :o