Bay to do TMNT

[Paulbot]

Sorry this is not funny anymore. :(

Here's what Michael Bay had to say (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/03/18/cue-outrage-for-their-new-movie-the-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-apparently-wont-even-be-mutant-turtles/) about the new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie he's producing:


When you see this movie, kids will believe one day that these turtles do exist, when we’re done with this movie. These turtles are from an alien race, and they’re going to be tough, edgy, funny and completely loveable.

[Sky Shadow]

Here's what Michael Bay had to say (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/03/18/cue-outrage-for-their-new-movie-the-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-apparently-wont-even-be-mutant-turtles/) about the new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie he's producing:

Does he know what 'mutant' means?

[kup]

My condolences to Turtles fans everywhere.

[i_amtrunks]

Sorry this is not funny anymore. :(

Here's what Michael Bay had to say (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/03/18/cue-outrage-for-their-new-movie-the-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-apparently-wont-even-be-mutant-turtles/) about the new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie he's producing:

The string of expletives I just uttered will be hard to top.

[kup]

The string of expletives I just uttered will be hard to top.

And he absolutely will not stop, EVER! Until our childhoods are DEAD!

[Doubledealer]

And he absolutely will not stop, EVER! Until our childhoods are DEAD!

Why is Michael Bay the most terrifying Terminator yet? Because he doesn't have to use time travel to ruin peoples childhoods.

[Bartrim]

And he absolutely will not stop, EVER! Until our childhoods are DEAD!

FFS Did Michael Bay molest you as a child? Did he sneak into your house at night and kill your parents while you watched? Did he swindle your parents of all their money and forced to grow up on the street? If the answer to the above 3 questions is no then MICHAEL BAY DID NOT RUIN OR KILL YOUR CHILDHOOD!!!!. You like the old cartoons, fine go and watch them. It's what I do. Since I own the G1 collection I have lost count of how many times I have watched theMore then meets the Eye 3 part episode. Michael bay is not going to change the way he makes movies. If you don't like them then don't watch them and do us all a favour a STFU:mad:

[kup]

FFS Did Michael Bay molest you as a child? Did he sneak into your house at night and kill your parents while you watched? Did he swindle your parents of all their money and forced to grow up on the street? If the answer to the above 3 questions is no then MICHAEL BAY DID NOT RUIN OR KILL YOUR CHILDHOOD!!!!. You like the old cartoons, fine go and watch them. It's what I do. Since I own the G1 collection I have lost count of how many times I have watched theMore then meets the Eye 3 part episode. Michael bay is not going to change the way he makes movies. If you don't like them then don't watch them and do us all a favour a STFU:mad:

Someone missed the joke entirely and got their panties in a knot for no good reason..:rolleyes:

[Bartrim]

Someone missed the joke entirely and got their panties in a knot for no good reason..:rolleyes:

Oh well maybe if you added one of these fellows:p I would known you were joking. Oh FYI I don't wear underwear.

[i_amtrunks]

Oh well maybe if you added one of these fellows:p I would known you were joking. Oh FYI I don't wear underwear.

I don't even think about Bay ruining childhoods and all that tripe, but I do wonder how he could come out and say something so totally stupid about a very popular series that explains exactly what you get in the brand name! :rolleyes:

And c'mon, being a normal turtle than gets mutated into a humanoid turtle by ooze and then trained in the martial arts is waaaaay better than being a plain old alien.

Plus there are plenty of alien species to play around with in the TMNT universe, without the need of turning the turtles into one. The 2000 series showed that.

[Sky Shadow]

I do wonder how he could come out and say something so totally stupid about a very popular series that explains exactly what you get in the brand name!

Well Mr Bay did make three 'Transformers' movies that could have easily been called 'Humans'. And the one called 'Dark of the Moon' didn't seem 100% sure if it was about the dark side of the moon or the far side of the moon. (The far side is a constant; the dark is not.) So it is not too surprising that he could make a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles film without mutants. Or turtles. Or teenagers. But I can guarantee that there will be ninjas. :)

[Robzy]

Someone missed the joke entirely and got their panties in a knot for no good reason..:rolleyes:
Don't worry... some of us got the joke!! ;)


I don't even think about Bay ruining childhoods and all that tripe, but I do wonder how he could come out and say something so totally stupid about a very popular series that explains exactly what you get in the brand name! :rolleyes:

Yeah, exactly. Bay is not ruining the past ("our childhoods") he's ruining the present by trying to control popular franchises that he has no understanding of. He loves turning Gold in to Lead! He's like the George W Bush of Film Directors. Every time he opens his mouth he says something stupid. Every time he takes on a franchise, he just can't comprehend what's actually good about it.

So, yeah... I'm p!ssed that *it appears* Bay is gonna ruin yet another one of my beloved franchises, simply by just not 'getting it'! :rolleyes: :mad:

[kup]

Oh well maybe if you added one of these fellows:p I would known you were joking. Oh FYI I don't wear underwear.

Have you seen the first Terminator movie? The joke is from a line in that movie, I thought everyone had seen Terminator 1 so I figured no further explanation was needed. Also Doubledealer clearly understood it and his post was also a hint.


Don't worry... some of us got the joke!! ;)

:)

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

FFS Did Michael Bay molest you as a child? Did he sneak into your house at night and kill your parents while you watched? Did he swindle your parents of all their money and forced to grow up on the street? If the answer to the above 3 questions is no then MICHAEL BAY DID NOT RUIN OR KILL YOUR CHILDHOOD!!!!. You like the old cartoons, fine go and watch them. It's what I do. Since I own the G1 collection I have lost count of how many times I have watched theMore then meets the Eye 3 part episode. Michael bay is not going to change the way he makes movies. If you don't like them then don't watch them and do us all a favour a STFU:mad:Who told you?!:eek: My psychiatrist said all that stuff was strictly confidential! :( :p

Seriously, I'm not one of the 'ruined/raped my childhood' crowd and will quite happily ignore the most of the Bay offerings along with Beast Machines and anything else that doesn't take my fancy, but this is a TF board and it's perfectly legitimate to vent about franchises we like getting redone in a pretty shoddy (IMO) way. I'm not a massive Turtles fan so I don't really care, but it is kinda lame to do Teenage Ninja Mutant Turtles without them being ninjas, mutants, or turtles (and even teenagers is kinda iffy).

However, this is a thread for giving the Bay treatment to inappropriate movies/franchises as opposed to a 'Michael Bay Raped Donatello' b!tchfest, so please, people - can we have some more Bay-ised movie ideas as well as the griping?

[Bartrim]

Have you seen the first Terminator movie? The joke is from a line in that movie, I thought everyone had seen Terminator 1 so I figured no further explanation was needed. Also Doubledealer clearly understood it and his post was also a hint.



But you can understand how it could easily be confused with gee-whun fanboy rantage too right?

[kup]

But you can understand how it could easily be confused with gee-whun fanboy rantage too right?

Not really since I got another form of unwarranted over the top fanboy rage in return but anyways, let's move on.

[Demonac]

But I can guarantee that there will be ninjas. :)

No you can't. They'll probably be samurai.

[kup]

No you can't. They'll probably be samurai.

I will go with US military recruited Turtles - Someone needs to be there to wave the flag or it's not a Bay movie.

Teenage Alien Marine Turtles.

They will also not eat Pizza anymore because that's not American enough, they'll be eating Hamburgers.

Personalities:

Splinter - An alien Kangaroo that only speaks 'inspirational quotes' and rips off people's faces.

Leonardo - A young marine with a wife and baby in their alien home.

Donatello - A stereo type fat geek who leaves in the basement (of the space ship) that can do magical things with computers like causing a tree to fall over by injecting it with a computer virus. His brothers make fan of him because he is such a nerd and nobody likes nerds unless it's for comedy relief.

Raphael - A Turtle with a gangsta attitude and always wants to 'cap some bitches'.

Michaelangelo - A hippy Turtle who always acts high and gets excited when he hears people talking about pot for comedy value.

Sam Jones (loosely based on Casey Jones) - A geeky kid who thinks himself as a sports enthusiast, the main protagonist. About 75% of movie revolves around him trying to score with next door girl May O'Neil.

May O'Neil - A girl who is only there for the mandatory soft porn shots and may have a line or two (purely optional). Sam's love interest.

Plot: Much of the movie will be about Sam finding all forms of hilarious ways to score with May. The Turtles then show up from space in an epic introductory scene and then fall into the background until the final battle where they can fight in the background while the camera focuses on Sam and May's butt.



You know what? This could actually happen!! :eek:

[Paulbot]

He's a nerdy new recruit in the army, a laughing stock who has no luck with the ladies, with his eye on a fellow recruit, the too beautiful for the army daughter of the tough army base general. During overnight training exercise in the woods, a series of huge explosions(tm) seperates him from his fellow troops and stumbles upon a shack by a spooky grey skull shaped cave, in which an old woman in a red cloak with an O on it, lives with her odd green housecat, and is drawn to a mysterious sword she's protecting. Strange powers are revealed to him when he holds the sword aloft. Suddenly he's not a nerdy kid anymore: he's a man! Adam returns to the battle field, impressing Leela and her father by taking on a tank with his bare hands.

But the activation of the power sword is noticed, and soon the spacecraft of the Master of the Universe, led by the evil Lynn (who wears the skimpiest costume you can imagine) arrive. They've been searching for the sword and now they've tracked it down. Years ago their great leader disappeared while searching for the fabled sword. She sends her hoards of Beast Men down to attack the planet. The army responds but it's a series of brutal battles with the new stronger Adam in the thick of it, maiming and decapitating beast after beast.

The evil Lynn tracks down the old woman's cave by the old grey skull shaped cave and the woman reveals her true stunningly beautifully form, naked by for a few subtle feathers to protect her dignity (skimpier than even Lynn's costume!). The two battle with their magic powers until eventually enough magic has hit the cave, and a skeleton emerges, what's left of the evil true master of the universe. He immediately kills Lynn and uses the overflow of magic to rebuild his form. But it's not enough. His face remains just a skull, but once her kills the sorceress Lynn was fighting, all power will be his. *"Not so fast Skeletor" says the mighty He-Man with Leela, her father and a whole bunch of US Armed Forces behind him, "I will fight you to become the true Master of the Universe!!!"



However, this is a thread for giving the Bay treatment to inappropriate movies/franchises as opposed to a 'Michael Bay Raped Donatello' b!tchfest, so please, people - can we have some more Bay-ised movie ideas as well as the griping?
sorry my bad, just seemed like Bay was playing along himself. ;) :o

[kup]

He's a nerdy new recruit in the army, a laughing stock who has no luck with the ladies, with his eye on a fellow recruit, the too beautiful for the army daughter of the tough army base general. During overnight training exercise in the woods, a series of huge explosions(tm) seperates him from his fellow troops and stumbles upon a shack by a spooky grey skull shaped cave, in which an old woman in a red cloak with an O on it, lives with her odd green housecat, and is drawn to a mysterious sword she's protecting. Strange powers are revealed to him when he holds the sword aloft. Suddenly he's not a nerdy kid anymore: he's a man! Adam returns to the battle field, impressing Leela and her father by taking on a tank with his bare hands.

But the activation of the power sword is noticed, and soon the spacecraft of the Master of the Universe, led by the evil Lynn (who wears the skimpiest costume you can imagine) arrive. They've been searching for the sword and now they've tracked it down. Years ago their great leader disappeared while searching for the fabled sword. She sends her hoards of Beast Men down to attack the planet. The army responds but it's a series of brutal battles with the new stronger Adam in the thick of it, maiming and decapitating beast after beast.

The evil Lynn tracks down the old woman's cave by the old grey skull shaped cave and the woman reveals her true stunningly beautifully form, naked by for a few subtle feathers to protect her dignity (skimpier than even Lynn's costume!). The two battle with their magic powers until eventually enough magic has hit the cave, and a skeleton emerges, what's left of the evil true master of the universe. He immediately kills Lynn and uses the overflow of magic to rebuild his form. But it's not enough. His face remains just a skull, but once her kills the sorceress Lynn was fighting, all power will be his. *"Not so fast Skeletor" says the mighty He-Man with Leela, her father and a whole bunch of US Armed Forces behind him, "I will fight you to become the true Master of the Universe!!!"



sorry my bad, just seemed like Bay was playing along himself. ;) :o

Sorry Paulbot but your 'Bay of the Universe' plot fails because it actually has a plot with too much coherence thrown in :p

Also not enough explosions ;)

[liegeprime]

No you can't. They'll probably be samurai.

LOL!:D:D

[Prowl]

Sorry this is not funny anymore. :(

Here's what Michael Bay had to say (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/03/18/cue-outrage-for-their-new-movie-the-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-apparently-wont-even-be-mutant-turtles/) about the new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie he's producing:

I just vomited in my mouth a lil.

[Sky Shadow]

Childlike Renaissance Alien People!
Childlike Renaissance Alien People!
Childlike Renaissance Alien People!
Heroes in a spaceship. Alien power!

(Since Mr Bay will need a new acronym for TMNT, I'm offering him the above intellectual property for free.)

Anyway, we all know what franchise Mr Bay is most suited for next...

My Big Brony: Bromance is Explosive.

Spike - a dragon played by Shia LeBeouf - has lived his life as Twilight Sparkle's bitch. Prince Blueblood tells Spike to stop being such a pussy and learn how to be a man. Spike shoots Twilight Sparkle in the face, then escapes on a hero's journey to find himself some balls. On his way he meets Big Macintosh, Iron Will, Soarin', Chief Thunderhooves and Tank. They teach him the bromance of bronyism and - most of all - the unbridled joy of just blowing shit up.

Rated MA15+.

[GoktimusPrime]

Reading that link about the Juvenile Renaissance Extra-Terrestrials made me :eek: - but the greater concern is whether or not Bay will bother to treat the "Turtles" as characters or just as creatures with little to no character depth. Cos that's basically what he did with the Transformers where the humans got way more character development than any Cybertronian. (-_-)

If it's gonna be like Transformers, then April O'Neil's not gonna get much characterisation... she'll be some "hawt" girl in tight clothes with lots of gratituous shots of her body but otherwise little character substance; she'll be a supporting character to the protagonist - Casey Jones. There ya go.

The recent CGI TMNT movie had what I thought was fairly decent character development and story line considering it was targeted at the kids market. I like how the movie started off with the Turtles at a "down point" -- Raphael's in self-imposed exile and the other turtles retreat into themselves as a means of coping with the breakdown of their family. Then we had the epic fall-out between Leonardo and Raphael, both expressing their anger and hate toward each other - but when Leonardo is abducted then we see Raphael rise to the occasion as he rejoins the other Turtles, Splinter, April and Casey in mounting a rescue mission. Also the story's antagonist turns out to actually be a good guy trying to undo his past sins. This animated kids' cartoon movie had way more story & character integrity than the entire Bay TF trilogy combined.

P.S.: Michael Bay's response to TMNT fan rage (http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/20/michael-bay-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-relax/#.T2ilh3KwUtk)

[VGMStudios]

First our beloved transformers now our beloved tmnt.
whats next?
I really hope this doesn't go through. A lot of ppl will be angry.
I'd be angry at nicolodean for allowing him to destroy my childhood hero's in a half shell.
http://www.flixist.com/michael-bay-the-turtles-are-an-alien-race-in-tmnt-reboot-207900.phtml

Vgm out...

[Skullcruncher]

destroy my childhood huh? so Michael Bay is going back in time to wipe your childhood from existance?

[kristofferrer]

First our beloved transformers now our beloved tmnt.
whats next?
I really hope this doesn't go through. A lot of ppl will be angry.
I'd be angry at nicolodean for allowing him to destroy my childhood hero's in a half shell.
http://www.flixist.com/michael-bay-the-turtles-are-an-alien-race-in-tmnt-reboot-207900.phtml

Vgm out...

FRACK!

teenage mutant ninja turtles implies THEY'RE MUTANTS AND THEY'RE TURTLES (it's in the theme song)- hence should be from EARTH!

Shame on nicktoons for allowing this, and damn bay for working with it.

[Skullcruncher]

FRACK!

teenage mutant ninja turtles implies THEY'RE MUTANTS AND THEY'RE TURTLES (it's in the theme song)- hence should be from EARTH!

Shame on nicktoons for allowing this, and damn bay for working with it.

So Mutants and Turtles can't be from any other planet? Expand your horizons son.

I loved the turtles when I was younger and this is only good news about the movie for me. :cool:

[griffin]

TMZ did a feature on it, on their TV show, referring to some of there website articles.

Here (http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/20/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-michael-bay-michaelangelo-sodomizing/#.T2lUENnklio)
Here (http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/20/tmz-live-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-michael-bay-rosie-odonnell-martina-navratilova-dancing-with-the-stars/#.T2lUEdnklio)
and here (http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/20/michael-bay-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-relax/#.T2lUGtnklio)

[gantz]

I hate this as much as you guys, but the guy ain't writing or directing this movie though, is he?

Platinum Dunes is simply producing?

[VGMStudios]

huh? so Michael Bay is going back in time to wipe your childhood from existance?

Try reading the whole sentence next time. Your comment has nothing to do with what I said. :)

@ kristofferrer
Totally agree. They are from earth not outer space aliens. End of story.

Vgm out...

[Bartrim]

So Mutants and Turtles can't be from any other planet? Expand your horizons son.

I loved the turtles when I was younger and this is only good news about the movie for me. :cool:

Mutants from another planet!?!?!??!?!?!?! We are through the looking glass here people:eek::p

I'll still watch it, and if it's any good I'll watch it again and if it isn't I wont.

[i_amtrunks]

I only wonder where they are going to fit the A for alien in the acronym...

It seems like a wasteful change to a well established series that has the perfect description of what you get in the title of the series. Plus there are enough aliens in the TMTN lore without making the titular heroes aliens as well.

[Golden Phoenix]

May O'Neil - A girl who is only there for the mandatory soft porn shots and may have a line or two (purely optional).

May be the only good thing about the movie.

[Slag]

Bit late on this one, but he could always fit in cyborg and vampire.
TAMNVCT..
seems to flow quite nicely...

Mutants in/ from space. eg. Total Recall :p

[Lord_Zed]

So Michael Bay is going to make TMNT awesome?!! BOOM!


No you can't. They'll probably be samurai.

I'm hoping they will be milliners.

[kurdt_the_goat]

No you can't. They'll probably be samurai.

Too late!
http://i.imgur.com/ai0I9.jpg

[Skullcruncher]

Try reading the whole sentence next time. Your comment has nothing to do with what I said. :)

@ kristofferrer
Totally agree. They are from earth not outer space aliens. End of story.

Vgm out...

Try understanding that Michael Bay cannot destroy your childhood hero's, you are the only one who can really do that. Unless you have Alzheimer's in which I am truly sorry.


Mutants from another planet!?!?!??!?!?!?! We are through the looking glass here people:eek::p

I'll still watch it, and if it's any good I'll watch it again and if it isn't I wont.

Hey who knows, I couldn't care what he or anyone does to the TMNT story/lore its time for another interpretation with bigger and better explosions.

[King Atlas]

I wonder which turtle will receive the "What's Cracking, Little Bitches?" dialogue from Bay. Probably Splinter :p

I've learned my lesson and will stick with the 200x show :)

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

This link (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ellie-dawes/women-need-quotas-because_b_1366903.html) posted not because of the article itself, but for the in-article link to a Bay Victoria's Secret ad...with military vehicles and explosions.
Didn't post the direct link since it might be a little racy/NSFW for Griff's comfort.

EDIT - ooh, maybe we could have a TF VS TMNT&A crossover! Then there could be twice as many aliens to ignore in favour of the US Army!

[5FDP]

I'll still watch it, and if it's any good I'll watch it again and if it isn't I wont.

+1 :)

I wanna see the fanboy rage when Bay announces a MOTU movie

If people are seriously this pissed off about a TMNT Bay movie, I'd hate to see what you're all like when you really have something to be pissed off about. It's called perspective people - get some ;)

[kup]

+1 :)

I wanna see the fanboy rage when Bay announces a MOTU movie

If people are seriously this pissed off about a TMNT Bay movie, I'd hate to see what you're all like when you really have something to be pissed off about. It's called perspective people - get some ;)

Just because you are unhappy with the direction of a movie about a franchise you are fond of doesn't mean that one has "lost perspective".

[kristofferrer]

EDIT - ooh, maybe we could have a TF VS TMNT&A crossover! Then there could be twice as many aliens to ignore in favour of the US Army!

LOL

here's a favourite of mine - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IXCK1EyP4s

[GoktimusPrime]

Peter Laird has now weighed into this discussion! (http://peterlairdstmntblog.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/few-musings-on-turtles-as-aliens.html) :)

[Bartrim]

+1 :)

I wanna see the fanboy rage when Bay announces a MOTU movie

If people are seriously this pissed off about a TMNT Bay movie, I'd hate to see what you're all like when you really have something to be pissed off about. It's called perspective people - get some ;)


LOL. Michael Bay has the power!!!!!!!:p

I agree about the whole perspective thing. To be honest I'm not too thrilled about the whole alien thing but I haven't uttered one expletive over the situation because like you said there are worse things in life to be upset about. I'll just wait for the end result.

[kup]

Peter Laird has now weighed into this discussion! (http://peterlairdstmntblog.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/few-musings-on-turtles-as-aliens.html) :)

Hopefully Bay will not 'ghost direct' and make this into 'Tenage Alien Ninja Turtles: Revenge of the Shredder' or 'Dark of Dimension X'.

If it was any other person involved with this film, I would have given more of a benefit of the doubt but this is Michael Bay who we are talking about here.

[GoktimusPrime]

<removes fanboy goggles>

When you think about it, the original origin story of the turtles is pretty ridiculous. Four pet turtles drop into a sewer and swim in radioactive goo that does more than just mutate them -- it evolves them into these anthropomorphic humanoid turtle things. Oh, and a rat who happens to know ninjutsu because his owner was a ninja master and the rat copied his master's katas (cos ya know, imitating forms alone will teach you mastery in a martial art :rolleyes:). W h a t ? ? Mind you, the 80s cartoon's Splinter origin where he was the ninja master who had his genes crossed with a sewer rat makes more sense insofar as why he knows ninjutsu and can teach it (the biological side on the other hand is just as ridiculous, if not even more so (-_-)).

If you look at it from the POV of someone who knows nothing about ninja turtles... it's a lot to swallow. It might work for a comic book, kid's cartoon and kid's movies, but if you want to "mature" it and expand it for a wider audience, then it might need to be tweaked. Aliens and mythological creatures is a more convenient/plausible excuse because they can be almost anything and you don't need to create an excuse of why they look like that. Why are they giant humanoid animals? Cos they're aliens.

But the problem of making them aliens creates a new set of issues.
1/ Are they still mutants? If everyone from their planet looks like humanoid animals, then isn't that just normal for them? What's that? They're lactose intolerant?? Okay, they're mutants then. :p
2/ The concept of being teenagers is a rather humancentric concept, particularly based on a base 10 counting system (because humans have 10 fingers - the 6 fingered Sontarans in Doctor Who use a 6-base counting system; so it stands to reason that 6 fingered alien turtles would be more like to use a 6-base numeric system wouldn't it?) Teenagers for humans represent the transition from juveniles to adulthood, whereas marine turtles can take decades before reaching physical maturity (which isn't too surprising considering that many species can live for over 100 years).
3/ How are they ninjas? Don't tell me that their planet just happens to have a martial art identical to Ninjutsu and they just happen to call their practitioners ninjas. Oh, and they happen to wield Japanese peasant weapons. Unless: (a) they learn ninjutsu after arriving on Earth, or (b) a human just refers to them as ninjas because that's what it looks like to them (kinda like how "Superman" was a name given to Kal-El by Lois Lane - it wasn't originally his idea). But then... what's with the bandana-masks?? I've never quite understood why the ninja turtles hide their faces. But I think the cartoon explained it as Splinter^the audience being able to tell them apart easier. :p (although originally they all wore red bandanas)

[Bartrim]

<removes fanboy goggles>

When you think about it, the original origin story of the turtles is pretty ridiculous. Four pet turtles drop into a sewer and swim in radioactive goo that does more than just mutate them -- it evolves them into these anthropomorphic humanoid turtle things. Oh, and a rat who happens to know ninjutsu because his owner was a ninja master and the rat copied his master's katas (cos ya know, imitating forms alone will teach you mastery in a martial art :rolleyes:). W h a t ? ? Mind you, the 80s cartoon's Splinter origin where he was the ninja master who had his genes crossed with a sewer rat makes more sense insofar as why he knows ninjutsu and can teach it (the biological side on the other hand is just as ridiculous, if not even more so (-_-)).

If you look at it from the POV of someone who knows nothing about ninja turtles... it's a lot to swallow. It might work for a comic book, kid's cartoon and kid's movies, but if you want to "mature" it and expand it for a wider audience, then it might need to be tweaked. Aliens and mythological creatures is a more convenient/plausible excuse because they can be almost anything and you don't need to create an excuse of why they look like that. Why are they giant humanoid animals? Cos they're aliens.

But the problem of making them aliens creates a new set of issues.
1/ Are they still mutants? If everyone from their planet looks like humanoid animals, then isn't that just normal for them? What's that? They're lactose intolerant?? Okay, they're mutants then. :p
2/ The concept of being teenagers is a rather humancentric concept, particularly based on a base 10 counting system (because humans have 10 fingers - the 6 fingered Sontarans in Doctor Who use a 6-base counting system; so it stands to reason that 6 fingered alien turtles would be more like to use a 6-base numeric system wouldn't it?) Teenagers for humans represent the transition from juveniles to adulthood, whereas marine turtles can take decades before reaching physical maturity (which isn't too surprising considering that many species can live for over 100 years).
3/ How are they ninjas? Don't tell me that their planet just happens to have a martial art identical to Ninjutsu and they just happen to call their practitioners ninjas. Oh, and they happen to wield Japanese peasant weapons. Unless: (a) they learn ninjutsu after arriving on Earth, or (b) a human just refers to them as ninjas because that's what it looks like to them (kinda like how "Superman" was a name given to Kal-El by Lois Lane - it wasn't originally his idea). But then... what's with the bandana-masks?? I've never quite understood why the ninja turtles hide their faces. But I think the cartoon explained it as Splinter^the audience being able to tell them apart easier. :p (although originally they all wore red bandanas)

I forgot aboout the rat mimicking his owners katas. Even though I've only got just over 2 years martial arts training under my belt I still majorly loled at this.

Thinking about your last paragraph. Do you think it would be feasable that they dont call themselves Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? Maybe they think the are normal arrive on earth and by the way they look and behave a human coins the name? They look like mutant turtles who have awesome fighting skills that some uneducated (in martial arts) human generalises as ninja skills and they act abit immature like teens. Just throwing it out there.

[5FDP]

I don't recall aliens in the boardgame 'Battleship' but they're in the movie. Grrrr :mad: ;) :D

[Jay-Tron]

Just noticed this thread. Ninja Turtles from space. Hmmm the idea dosen't blow my mind but I'll give it a chance if it does happen just for the sake of a different movie to watch...

Maybe the turtles can be chased to Earth by that pink brain thing from the old cartoon or something...

[Bartrim]

I don't recall aliens in the boardgame 'Battleship' but they're in the movie. Grrrr :mad: ;) :D

I've been thinking about that movie. Apart from the title and it involves boats how else is that movie linked to the board game?

[GoktimusPrime]

I know! They should totally have gigantic red and white pegs falling from the sky and impaling sections of boats and submarines! Keeled my childhoodz!! :p :p

Edit: Unless the aliens are those red and white pegs! :eek:

[SMHFConvoy]

I don't even think about Bay ruining childhoods and all that tripe, but I do wonder how he could come out and say something so totally stupid about a very popular series that explains exactly what you get in the brand name!

Bay said it to get everyone talking about it. And now we are. I've hemmed and hawed about this. I'm just not going to see this film. Laird's comment is quiet level headed and as he said, he doesn't own the turtles any more. So Nickelodeon and Paramount can do as they please.

[Slag]

Just noticed this thread. Ninja Turtles from space. Hmmm the idea dosen't blow my mind but I'll give it a chance if it does happen just for the sake of a different movie to watch...

Maybe the turtles can be chased to Earth by that pink brain thing from the old cartoon or something...

Krang.. my favourite..

[Slag]

I just vomited in my mouth a lil.

if you can dodge a wrench...;)

[VGMStudios]

Naw your wrong. He can and will destroy my childhood hero's.
I'm just hoping Peter will set him straight.
aliens ...what a concept, cause you know THATS more believable.

[Lord_Zed]

Meh! Everyone knows the Toxic Avenger is the earths true mutant hero.

And stop reminding me how ludicrous all my favourite old childhood shows are. No wonder it's hard to get into new kids shows, my suspension of disbelief is no longer preconditioned to accept such ridiculous premise.

Anyway absolutely tragic having Bay attached to this new movie, cause the old live actions were such awesome examples of film in their day, how will Bay ever compete? :p

[Gutsman Heavy]

The first film was genuinely awesome, and one of the most successful independent films of the time.

[Paulbot]

The first film was genuinely awesome, and one of the most successful independent films of the time.

I thought it was totally tubular. ;)

[kup]

I thought it was totally tubular. ;)

I forgot that people used to say tubular..OH THE HORROR! :eek:

[GoktimusPrime]

I remember when the first movie came out - my teacher said to us, "That film has 172 acts of violence" and we were all like, "Cccooooolll!" :D The line just to see that movie was hectic -- went around the block! :eek:


And stop reminding me how ludicrous all my favourite old childhood shows are. No wonder it's hard to get into new kids shows, my suspension of disbelief is no longer preconditioned to accept such ridiculous premise.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/avatars/roflcopter.jpg

[kristofferrer]

**shake fist in the air**


YOU SEE WHAT YOU DID MICHAEL?... YOU SEE WHAT YOU DID?

YOU'RE DESTROYING OUR COMMUNITY!

*** SOB ***










Lol

[Hursticon]

Has there been a date attached to this rad flick yet? - I thoroughly enjoyed Bay's Transformers flicks, as well as Platinum Dunes' re-envisionings of various Horror film classics. :)

[Demonac]

Has there been a date attached to this rad flick yet? - I thoroughly enjoyed Bay's Transformers flicks, as well as Platinum Dunes' re-envisionings of various Horror film classics. :)

The name 'Platinum Dunes' must be ironic. A more appropriate name for that production company would be 'Barrel Bottom'. :P

[GoktimusPrime]

Another comment from Peter Laird (http://blastr.com/2012/03/misunderstood-tmnt-creato.php) <---clarifying his previous one

[kup]

Another comment from Peter Laird (http://blastr.com/2012/03/misunderstood-tmnt-creato.php) <---clarifying his previous one

Well I am pretty sure that we all know what this movie will be as Bay seems to involve himself too much (even as a producer) and he is very 'consistent' in his ways and attitudes when dealing with established franchises and film making. As Laird mentioned, it is indeed 'possible' that the movie may turn out good but given Bay's track record, I think that the possibility is as remote as the end of the world on the 21st of December.

[Skullcruncher]

Well I am pretty sure that we all know what this movie will be as Bay seems to involve himself too much (even as a producer) and he is very 'consistent' in his ways and attitudes when dealing with established franchises and film making. As Laird mentioned, it is indeed 'possible' that the movie may turn out good but given Bay's track record, I think that the possibility is as remote as the end of the world on the 21st of December.

Why always so negative kup? You should be hopeful that you will enjoy the movie or at least TMNT is making a comeback. With all your hate towards the TF movies I am really wonder why you still even have an interest in transformers at all.

[kup]

Why always so negative kup? You should be hopeful that you will enjoy the movie or at least TMNT is making a comeback. With all your hate towards the TF movies I am really wonder why you still even have an interest in transformers at all.

TMNT went away to require a comeback? Wow, I must have gone into hibernation or something for like 20 years as I thought that there was a theatrically released movie only a couple of years ago along with a long running cartoon series and ongoing toyline.

And also, I didn't know that liking Bayformers was a mandatory requirement to enjoying the Transformers franchise.

[GoktimusPrime]

And also, I didn't know that liking Bayformers was a mandatory requirement to enjoying the Transformers franchise.
It is. <throws.a.boxload.of.Bumblebees@you> :p :p

P.S.: This (http://www.letsbefriendsagain.com/2012/03/26/april-onooooooo/) :)

[kup]

@Skullcruncher

Sorry if I sounded annoyed but this is the sort of ill informed attitude that was used by Bay and co with Transformers. Their attitude was all about 'This was a dead franchise until Bay picked it up and saved it from oblivion' when the line had been perfectly healthy and successful for about 20 years.

[Skullcruncher]

TMNT went away to require a comeback? Wow, I must have gone into hibernation or something for like 20 years as I thought that there was a theatrically released movie only a couple of years ago along with a long running cartoon series and ongoing toyline.

And also, I didn't know that liking Bayformers was a mandatory requirement to enjoying the Transformers franchise.

Wow that must have been a pretty blockbuster movie, I don't even recall seeing a preview for it at the theaters. Actually I was referring to the amout of attention TMNT is now receiving - its getting a lot more attention many people will feel likes its coming back as it did when it originally was popular.

No you dont have to like bayformers but I don't know how anyone can constantly spill out hate towards them and cannot accept them for what they are.


@Skullcruncher

Sorry if I sounded annoyed but this is the sort of ill informed attitude that was used by Bay and co with Transformers. Their attitude was all about 'This was a dead franchise until Bay picked it up and saved it from oblivion' when the line had been perfectly healthy and successful for about 20 years.

No apology needed but as above the movies breathed fresh life into transformers no matter what you think of them.

[kup]

Wow that must have been a pretty blockbuster movie, I don't even recall seeing a preview for it at the theaters. Actually I was referring to the amout of attention TMNT is now receiving - its getting a lot more attention many people will feel likes its coming back as it did when it originally was popular.

No you dont have to like bayformers but I don't know how anyone can constantly spill out hate towards them and cannot accept them for what they are.



No apology needed but as above the movies breathed fresh life into transformers no matter what you think of them.

I guess overwhelmingly negative attention could be seen as positive by some.

BTW, the last Turtle movie was pretty high profile and it had a lot of things attached including merchandising, specials and whatnot. The cartoon series was also well known and ran from 2003 and fairly prominent with attached toy lines that ran for years.

Just because you have not heard of them doesn't mean the world hasn't. ;)

When it comes to "fresh life" for Transformers..all I will say is: Bumblebees for everyone! :p

[GoktimusPrime]

Yeah, TMNT did get a lot of promotion. I remember seeing the trailers in cinemas and I did go watch it in a theatre (while on honeymoon :p). I found it to be a quite enjoyable film given its young target audience. :) There were also lots of toys pumped out for it too -- I personally picked up the four Turtles.

I personally wouldn't say the movies "breathed fresh life" into Transformers (I would reserve that honour for Beast Wars*) -- but it certainly has massively boosted the popularity of Transformers and thrust it into the mainstream public consciousness. Sales of TF toys doubled after the 2007 movie came out.

-------------------------------------
*Transformers was already a popular and successful brand before the movies came along. In fact, it was because of the Transformers' increasing strength that Hasbro decided to have a live action movie made. Beast Wars came along after the Transformers brand had nearly completely died after the fall of G1 and the failure of G2 to adequately restore the brand - about a year after Beast Wars came out Transformers changed from being a near-extinct toy brand to being the 3rd best selling boys' toyline in the U.S. (next to Toy Story and Star Wars).

[Skullcruncher]

I guess overwhelmingly negative attention could be seen as positive by some.

BTW, the last Turtle movie was pretty high profile and it had a lot of things attached including merchandising, specials and whatnot. The cartoon series was also well known and ran from 2003 and fairly prominent with attached toy lines that ran for years.

Just because you have not heard of them doesn't mean the world hasn't. ;)

When it comes to "fresh life" for Transformers..all I will say is: Bumblebees for everyone! :p

Dunno, I just did a quick survey in my work place of 9 people, only one person knew there was a tmnt movie in the works yet 8 people remembered the original turtles cartoon and only 1 knew it had been continuing over the last few years.
Please forgive me for not knowing there was a cartoon series in 2003 -
at that particular time I was at uni, studing and enjoying my time with uni related activities the last thing I would want to do is concern myself with any cartoons.

Stating that someone hasn't heard of something but the world has is quite offensive, but actually in this case laughable considering I'd consider myself quite active in the world. If you want to get personal please continue.

Yes we know bumblebee is everywhere.....whats your exact point? Kids, Mums and dads can easily identify him. If it wasn't bumblebee it would be a different character.

[Skullcruncher]

I personally wouldn't say the movies "breathed fresh life" into Transformers (I would reserve that honour for Beast Wars*) -- but it certainly has massively boosted the popularity of Transformers and thrust it into the mainstream public consciousness. Sales of TF toys doubled after the 2007 movie came out

Well you've been keeping up with transformers since day 1 so I can see your point. But to me who had nothing to do with transformers since g1 ended it gave new life to my interest in transformers.

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

And also, I didn't know that liking Bayformers was a mandatory requirement to enjoying the Transformers franchise.I've got some bad news for you Kup. We all took a vote and if you don't immediately profess your undying and all-consuming love for Beast Machines then we're kicking you out of the Transformers True Fan Club (Patent Pending) and confiscating all your Bayverse Bumblebees.

[gantz]

OzFormers needs to implement a 'like' function :D

[kup]

I've got some bad news for you Kup. We all took a vote and if you don't immediately profess your undying and all-consuming love for Beast Machines then we're kicking you out of the Transformers True Fan Club (Patent Pending) and confiscating all your Bayverse Bumblebees.

hmmm...I kind of like Beast Machines...:o

[kup]

Dunno, I just did a quick survey in my work place of 9 people, only one person knew there was a tmnt movie in the works yet 8 people remembered the original turtles cartoon and only 1 knew it had been continuing over the last few years.
Please forgive me for not knowing there was a cartoon series in 2003 -
at that particular time I was at uni, studing and enjoying my time with uni related activities the last thing I would want to do is concern myself with any cartoons.

Stating that someone hasn't heard of something but the world has is quite offensive, but actually in this case laughable considering I'd consider myself quite active in the world. If you want to get personal please continue.

Yes we know bumblebee is everywhere.....whats your exact point? Kids, Mums and dads can easily identify him. If it wasn't bumblebee it would be a different character.

Very subjective since some time ago I randomly asked a guy if he knew what Alice in Wonderland was and he only knew the story existed from them Johnny Depp movie :rolleyes:

However, based on my little exercise, I am not going to assume that everyone only knows 'Alice in Wonderland' from Johnny Depp and not from Lewis Carol or even the Disney animated movie based only on what whoever is immediately around me knows.

However all this is irrelevant. The last Turtle movie was well marketed and promoted so just because you and your co-workers have never heard of it, doesn't mean that TMNT is not already an active and successful franchise.

However I will agree that TMNT was not as popular as Bayformers:

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100917201732/en.futurama/images/2/29/Bender_the_Offender.png
"In fact, you're more than popular - you're pure lowest common denominator!"

[Skullcruncher]

Very subjective since some time ago I randomly asked a guy if he knew what Alice in Wonderland was and he only knew the story existed from them Johnny Depp movie :rolleyes:

However, based on my little exercise, I am not going to assume that everyone only knows 'Alice in Wonderland' from Johnny Depp and not from Lewis Carol or even the Disney animated movie based only on what whoever is immediately around me knows.

However all this is irrelevant. The last Turtle movie was well marketed and promoted so just because you and your co-workers have never heard of it, doesn't mean that TMNT is not already an active and successful franchise.

However I will agree that TMNT was not as popular as Bayformers:


I must of missed the bit where I said TMNT is an inactive and unsuccessful franchise. But I will leave this here as some people will always be over judgemental and overly critical of everything but this is the society that we all live in today.

[kup]

Stating that someone hasn't heard of something but the world has is quite offensive

I will apologize if you were offended, that was not the intention but I too was a little offended when you implied those things about me on your response to my post. I took that as a bit of an attack so I responded against what I believe to be flawed arguments based on insular personal perceptions when it comes to your views of the TMNT franchise. I also had to respond to you passing judgement that I shouldn't be a TF fan if I don't like Bayformers.



I must of missed the bit where I said TMNT is an inactive and unsuccessful franchise. But I will leave this here as some people will always be over judgemental and overly critical of everything but this is the society that we all live in today.

You did say that I should be hopeful that TMNT is making a "comeback" which strongly implies that it went away and was no longer active. Your following posts also seemed to build on that argument.

But anyways as you said, let's leave it be.

Edit: I just realized that I have been saying 'However' a lot :o

[i_amtrunks]

So TMNT or derivitives it is no more.

It is now just Ninja Turtles...
source (http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showthread.php?10402-The-Title-NINJA-TURTLES)

So not only can we now expect alien heritage, but Bay cannot even man up and take credit for his part in the name change.

[GoktimusPrime]

Turtles aren't aliens - they're Earthlings. And if the aliens happen to resemble turtles, then isn't calling them turtles kinda insulting?? That'd be like calling Ithorians "Hammerheads," or referring to the Aqualish (http://www.theforce.net/timetales/tt1-1/aqualish.jpg) as "bumfaces"! Who'd do that?!? :p

[kristofferrer]

Turtles aren't aliens - they're Earthlings. And if the aliens happen to resemble turtles, then isn't calling them turtles kinda insulting?? That'd be like calling Ithorians "Hammerheads," or referring to the Aqualish (http://www.theforce.net/timetales/tt1-1/aqualish.jpg) as "bumfaces"! Who'd do that?!? :p

LOL:p - i read that the "ithorians" found the term "hammerheads" derogatory.

semantics is a fine topic in this part eh?

"who would do that?" you ask? ... somebody is doing that right now! :rolleyes:

i think the decision has been made. it will be PG and it will be a family movie involving the recent nuclear incident in japan. Thats the only way i can see this fitting into a nice little package.

lol:p

[SkyWarp91]

Eh, I'll probably just wait till a trailer comes out and then make further judgements on it.

Might be a guilty pleasure, might not. Ah well :rolleyes:

[Gutsman Heavy]

It'll be guilty alright.

[Sky Shadow]

A long and pretty article (http://techgnotic.deviantart.com/art/The-Future-of-Storytelling-Has-Arrived-293860261?utm_source=elnino&utm_medium=messagecenter&utm_campaign=040312_NET_Storytelling&utm_term=title) on Ninja Turtles and Mass Effect 3 and the relationship between creators and consumers. (Scroll down the page to keep reading.)

[kup]

Bay's Alien Turtles Cancelled!



Michael Bay's "Ninja Turtles" reboot has had rough sailing since its announcement. Whether it was negative fan fallout over the initial announcement of the Turtles being from an alien race, "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" creator Peter Laird addressing the updated origin or Kevin Eastman's endorsement, the film has certainly garnered a cornucopia of media attention. However, it looks like the heroes in a half shell will have remain on their home planet for the time being as The Hollywood Reporter reveals Paramount Pictures has shut down the reboot, pushing the December 2013 release date to May 2014. THR reports the studio has laid off pre-production staff for an "indefinite" work stoppage.

The news comes after a number of notable film delays for Paramount following the release of box-office dud "Battleship," including "G.I. Joe: Retaliation" and Brad Pitt's "World War Z." "Ninja Turtles" is produced by Bay's Platinum Dunes with Jonathan Liebesman attached to direct a script written by Kevin Eastman and Andre Nemec.

"Kids are going to believe, one day, that these turtles do exist, when we are done with this movie," said Bay at the revelation of the Turtles' new origin. "These Turtles are from an alien race, and they are going to be tough, edgy, funny and completely lovable."

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...ticle&id=39211



The heroes on the half shell are getting put on the shelf indefinitely.

Paramount has pulled the plug on the Jonathan Liebesman-helmed reboot of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, pushing its release back indefinitely... and, no, it's not for 3D post-conversion and/or more Channing Tatum.

The Hollywood Reporter reports that Paramount, already gun shy with the delays the studio is facing with G.I. JOE: RETALIATION and WORLD WAR Z, is willing to take its time with NINJA TURTLES in order to iron out what it feels are script problems. Rather than rush it out there in order to make its December 2013 release date and potentially damage the future of the franchise with a poor showing, Paramount is learning their lesson of putting forth a subpar product that may come back to bite them in the ass later. Better late than never.

In the meantime, Platinum Dunes will have to chill with the reboot, and, once the script is ready to go, NINJA TURTLES will move forward again... but when that will be is right now anyone's guess.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/56447

[SkyWarp91]

On the upside the TMNT can remain in its nostalgic glory.....for now.

On the downside, a supermodel will not be hired to play April. Then again, perhaps Hasbro will get Carly Rae Jepsen to be April!

[Golden Phoenix]

Phew.

Dodged a bullet there.

[5FDP]

It makes you wonder where we would be today if the live-action Transformer movies were cancelled due to negative reception...

[SkyWarp91]

It makes you wonder where we would be today if the live-action Transformer movies were cancelled due to negative reception...

I'd certainly wouldn't be here. It was because of the Bay movies that I joined this site, I was into Transformers in my younger years but lived with KOs till I found out there were real toys from ROTF.

[Paulbot]

It makes you wonder where we would be today if the live-action Transformer movies were cancelled due to negative reception...

Transformers Animated was the back up plan if the first movie flopped. Maybe we'd have season five instead of TF:Prime. Generations and Animated and War for Cybertron toys would be on the shelf and Bumblebee could still speak.

And I believe Ninja Turtles is only on hold because of budget issues not forever cancelled. I wonder of the Turtles in Time costumes are still available? Or the ones from the TV series with Venus De Milo?

[kup]

It makes you wonder where we would be today if the live-action Transformer movies were cancelled due to negative reception...

It would have continued a similar relatively successful course as the 15 years prior.

The Bay movies did put Transformers in the foreground, that cannot be denied but the franchise was by no means struggling just before that. As Gok would mention, the franchise only came in danger of terminating after G2 but it massively picked up during Beast Wars and was steady since.

[Spiritprime]

I'm trying so hard not to choke on my tongue here...

Bay doing TMNT? Absolutely shocking, even if he's producing it. Come on, TMNT was the hits for me during the 2003 run and the live action trilogy. Obviously... I've got a very bad feeling if he keeps on claiming that they're going to be aliens.

Listen, excuse my language, but... no fucking way!

[GoktimusPrime]

Aww come on, remember when news first hit about Michael Bay to direct Transformers, and so many fans were negative -- saying how the movies will just be action packed explosions with hackneyed storylines... but look how they turned out!

D'OH! XO :p

[Robzy]

Great news! The new TV series is enough for me. I don't want another half baked Bay-associated movie about yet another franchise I love (he's already ruined TFs, Nightmare on Elm St, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and potentially Monster Squad).

Get him the hell away from this good stuff, and let him ruin Bad Boys or Pearl Harbor 2.

[kup]

Here is a review of Bay's (supposedly aborted) Ninja Turtle script with a link to the actual script:

http://tmntnottant.blogspot.ca/2012/08/the-tant-script-reviewed.html?m=0


In a movie about larger-than-life creatures fighting evil, a stupid-ass teenager and his drama-filled relationship take the front seat. Sound familiar?

We may not have dodged this bullet yet!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/jun/18/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-film

Since it's ambiguous if Bay's movie has been completely cancelled or delayed, expect the above to change little once the movie actually is released.

[Trent]

Boo!!!!!!!!

[kup]

Boo!!!!!!!!

I really hope it gets permanently cancelled. The 'Colonel Schrader' angle with the Foot as a wing of the military truly sucks balls.

With that and much of the movie revolving around a teen Casey Jones trying to score with April who is just there as the 'love interest', you can see that this would be TMNT in name only.

[Bartrim]

I am a fan of the Bay Transformers movies and even though they could of been better I will defend them. But this sounds just terrible. I can't even describe how terrible this sounds.

[Trent]

I am a fan of the Bay Transformers movies and even though they could of been better I will defend them. But this sounds just terrible. I can't even describe how terrible this sounds.

It sounds like the transformers movies… with turtles.

[Bartrim]

It sounds like the transformers movies… with turtles.

Atleast the Transformers were from Cybertron. Yeah his movies could of focused more on the Transformers but atleast he didn't mess up their backstory that bad.

[kurdt_the_goat]

I for one was hoping for more Casey Jones origin story. We could find out that his mother is a pothead, which would explain why he lashes out at society!

[kup]

I for one was hoping for more Casey Jones origin story. We could find out that his mother is a pothead, which would explain why he lashes out at society!

That could happen only that it will be for comedic reasons only. Bay's Casey Jones appears to just be another version of Sam from Bayformers.

[kurdt_the_goat]

A bay TMNT may have actually made TMNT3 seem good as well, so it's a shame!

[kup]

The leaked script has been pulled:



Cease and Desist

"Earlier today, I received an email from a law firm that represents Paramount Studios. It demanded that I cease and desist from hosting the screenplay on this blog. Here's the notice in full.

To whom it may concern:

This letter is being written to you on behalf of Paramount Pictures Corporation (“Paramount”). Paramount is the owner of copyright and other intellectual property rights in and to the unreleased “Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles” motion picture (hereinafter referred to as "TMNT"). No one is authorized to copy, reproduce, distribute, or otherwise use “TMNT” without the express written permission of Paramount.

Notwithstanding this, Paramount has learned that you are reproducing excerpts of the unreleased TMNT screenplay at the URL located at http://tmntnottant.blogspot.com/2012...wed.html#more; and are distributing the screenplay as a .PDF file located at https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B22Z...pli=1&sle=true.

Paramount hereby demands that you immediately cease all distribution of the TMNT screenplay and remove the TMNT screenplay from this website and any other website where you may have reproduced and/or distributed it. Please further remove or disable the link to the .PDF file referenced above.

We further demand that you immediately provide us with written confirmation that you have complied with Paramount’s demands.

Please contact me at [withheld] to discuss the source from which you obtained the screenplay and the scope of your distribution.

This letter is not a complete statement of Paramount’s rights in connection with this matter, and nothing contained herein constitutes an express or implied waiver of any rights, remedies, or defenses of Paramount in connection with this matter, all of which are expressly reserved."



Very truly yours,
/s/
Dennis L. Wilson
Keats McFarland & Wilson LLP

Now you know this script at some point or is currently being seriously considered!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9-qjeQLIrA&feature=related

[kup]

This is a cool T-Shirt:

http://a1.s6img.com/cdn/box_004/prev_14/416491_37478474-tsclms118_l.jpg

[kurdt_the_goat]

That may in fact be the greatest t-shirt of all time.

[Robzy]

Kup, that is an AWESOME t-shirt :eek::D

Man, I can't stand Bay! He has no idea about telling a story - his films are like fireworks displays... lots of noise and flashy, pretty colours, but absolutely zero emotional investment. His TF movies are dreadful, and his Production Company just keeps doing sh!tty remakes of old movies. Hasn't he got any ideas of his own (that don't suck)? :rolleyes:

[Trent]

The leaked script has been pulled:



Now you know this script at some point or is currently being seriously considered!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9-qjeQLIrA&feature=related

Could still be fake. But if it's not I weep for the future.

[kup]

Could still be fake. But if it's not I weep for the future.

No, it's pretty real.

Here is a video review:

http://latino-review.com/2012/08/28/exclusive-bays-failed-ninja-turtles-script-review/

[Robzy]

Wow... if that script is real it's dreadful! Talk about paint by numbers.

[kup]

Since the video I linked has been pulled, here is another link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O75-NAsJxlM

[5FDP]

Regardless if this script is real or not, we already know the direction that Bay will go with April O'Neil ;) There was a great article in the JB HI FI magazine (Stack) titled 'Recipe on how to make a Michael Bay movie'; read it if you can find a copy.

[gantz]

:o

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=72588

Productions is going ahead and filming begins in April (haha) but yeah, I'm just gonna stick with my TMNT 2003 :(

[kup]

:o

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=72588

Productions is going ahead and filming begins in April (haha) but yeah, I'm just gonna stick with my TMNT 2003 :(

:(

[VERT]

:mad: :(

[Bidoofdude]

I don't like it. More like Adult Alien MMA Frogs to me. :mad::( I AM NOT SEEING THIS.

[i_amtrunks]

Like everything Bay says, you cannot believe it. Says it is kaput, then off it goes.

[SharkyMcShark]

Okay I'll give this my best shot...

"OGM MICHEAL BAY IS DIRETCING OMG THIS WILL BE SHIIIIT :mad::mad::mad::mad:"

Am I doing it right?

[Bidoofdude]

Okay I'll give this my best shot...

"OGM MICHEAL BAY IS DIRETCING OMG THIS WILL BE SHIIIIT :mad::mad::mad::mad:"

Am I doing it right?

Just about.:p:D

[i_amtrunks]

Okay I'll give this my best shot...

"OGM MICHEAL BAY IS DIRETCING OMG THIS WILL BE SHIIIIT :mad::mad::mad::mad:"

Am I doing it right?

Don't forget to mention explosions and solar/light flares.

Bay or no Bay, the writers and producers murdered this before a single frame was shot.

[kup]

Don't forget to mention explosions and solar/light flares.

Bay or no Bay, the writers and producers murdered this before a single frame was shot.

It is an orchestra of mediocrity.

[gantz]

Apparently Megan Fox will be April O'Neil

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=74603

[kup]

Yeah I just read about it. This is hilarious and check this:


Variety is now reporting that Fox will star as the classic Turtles character April O'Neil. "Prior to the holidays, the studio began meeting with actresses such as Jane Levy, Anna Kendrick and Elizabeth Olsen," says the trade paper, "and the studio will now aim to find its male lead."
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118066448/

Looks like the Turtles won't even be the leads in their own movie. This is worse than in Transformers as Turtle movies have already been proven to be successful with them in the lead. No 'viewer needs to relate to human characters' excuses for this now - It is clearly just Bay implementing his cookie cutter.

[gantz]

I just dont understand hey... :(

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Apparently Megan Fox will be April O'Neil

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=74603

GROOOOAAAAN

I though Bay and Fox didn't like each other. Sigh. This is getting worse and worse.

I hope they call the movie "April O'Neil and some weird looking guys" Coz the Turtles will just be doing cameos.

[Tober]

Like everything Bay says, you cannot believe it. Says it is kaput, then off it goes.

Yeah, I thought this thing got canned...?

[5FDP]

I'm surprised that she wasn't cast as Splinter... she's got the facial hair for it (http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/3163/1261869544091.jpg) ;)

[SkyWarp91]

For some reason I find this casting hilarious, usually I'd roll my eyes but this for some reason is just LOLcity

[VGMStudios]

First words out of my mouth when reading this was "Oh no!"
F*ck you Bay! Its bad enough your going to ruin them. Now you need to bring the ugly Fox into the fold?
Groan!

[Hursticon]

Sadly, this new TMNT film is going to go exactly the way the Transformers Films did under Michael Bay's involvement; Director or Producer? it doesn't matter. :(:mad:

What we're going to get is a film about Casey Jones & April O'Neil's burgeoning & blossoming love for one another with a recurring cameo by the Teenage ALIEN(!?!) Ninja Turtles - Sadly it'll probably makes hundreds of millions of dollars at the Box Office & be considered successful & yet 2 of the longest lasting Boys Toys franchises will still be without proper movie adaptations. :mad:
(Of course, we will always have the 80s Turtle Movies (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEhA6FfuLt0) though ;):cool:)

Megan Fox's involvement? - I don't think this will do her or anyone else any favours. :rolleyes::p
(Someone/something to look at though :D)

[VGMStudios]

You mean like her toe thumb?
Cause thats the most attractive thing I've ever seen! Lmao.

Someone on another forum said Mary Elizabeth Winstead should be April and i totally agree.

[Skullcruncher]

This is great, at least there is something partially good about this movie, and here I was thinking it would have a shorter run at the box office than Battlefield! :D


You mean like her toe thumb?
Cause thats the most attractive thing I've ever seen! Lmao.


Well you can spend the entire movie looking at it if your so inclined.

[SkyWarp91]

You know who should play April O'Neil?

APRIL O'NEIL (http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxejptgiYR1qhs62co1_400.jpg)

[1orion2many]

I didn't think Meagan Fox was unattractive but I suppose you are less fussy as you get older:rolleyes::D

[kup]

Even when I was excited about TF1, I thought she was rather trashy looking.

[1orion2many]

Even when I was excited about TF1, I thought she was rather trashy looking.

Recyclable trash:confused::D

[Jinto]

What we're going to get is a film about Casey Jones & April O'Neil's burgeoning & blossoming love for one another with a recurring cameo by the Teenage ALIEN(!?!) Ninja Turtles
Yup.


yet 2 of the longest lasting Boys Toys franchises will still be without proper movie adaptations. :mad:
Which two?


Personally I'd like to see how he reconciles advanced aliens with ancient martial arts weapons.

[kup]

Personally I'd like to see how he reconciles advanced aliens with ancient martial arts weapons.

If you think Bay would even bother to explain that, you are giving him too much credit.

[Hursticon]

If you think Bay would even bother to explain that, you are giving him too much credit.

Where's the 'favourite' button? :D

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Personally I'd like to see how he reconciles advanced aliens with ancient martial arts weapons.
In an amazing co-winky-dink, ancient ninja weapons are what the aliens also happen to use.

As well as speaking English.:rolleyes:

Let's just forget about the fact that nunchaku and sai are both okinawan karate weapons... >.>
<.<

[kup]

In an amazing co-winky-dink, ancient ninja weapons are what the aliens also happen to use.

As well as speaking English.:rolleyes:

Let's just forget about the fact that nunchaku and sai are both okinawan karate weapons... >.>
<.<

I thought Karate - 'meeting of hands' was a free handed martial art.

[GoktimusPrime]

Some on set pics:
http://imgur.com/a/9qsiA


I thought Karate - 'meeting of hands' was a free handed martial art.
Karate originally meant "China Hand" (唐手), or literally "Tang" Hand (in reference to China's Tang Dynasty). It was later changed to mean "empty" hand (空手), but empty just means without specifically crafted weapons like swords, spears, bow and arrow etc. The weapons that are used by Karate and Ninjutsu are arms used by peasantry because they're just regular tools.
e.g.
nunchaku - a type of flail used in farming
sai - a compact pitchfork
bo - staff used to transport loads (e.g. buckets, baskets etc.)
tonfa - handle for a mill
kusari-gama - sickle attached to chain
etc.

Katana were only used by ninjas though, not karate. Karate was basically a martial art practised by Okinawans for civil defence, whereas Ninjutsu was practised by Japanese peasantry who took arms in guerrilla warfare against Samurai, so they would used crafted weapons like Katana, shuriken (ninja stars), tetsuboshi (caltrops), bow and arrows etc. They would also used smoke bombs and improvised explosive devices. Basically the Ninja were the feudal Japanese equivalent of the Viet Cong or Taliban in modern times. The word "Ninjutsu" (忍術) itself literally means "The art of stealth." The ninja often saw themselves as kinds of freedom fighters etc., whereas the Samurai saw them as cowards. In a few rare instances there were alliances made between Samurai and Ninja clans, e.g. Hattori Hanzo (hence the reference in Kill Bill (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIr6rEndy0A) ;))

[Bidoofdude]

Some on set pics:
http://imgur.com/a/9qsiA



It looks okay so far, but I've got a bad feeling in my gut that something is going to go terribly wrong. ;)

[SkyWarp91]

Is that Will Arnett in the photos?

[Gutsman Heavy]

So much for having suits with CG faces ala Where the Wild Things Are.

[kup]

http://i.minus.com/idgTh8r0GmYoi.gif

[Trent]

^What am I watching?

[kup]

^What am I watching?

Have a guess ;) We've had a bit of a leak of what Bay's alien turtles will be like.

http://kupscigar.com/misc/tmnt-movie-costume-michel.jpg

It's a Halloween costume but it's legit so it gives you an idea of what Bay is aiming for.

Dude bro Mikey with sunglasses, ripped 'kick-ass' sports leggings and tattoos lol

Actually the 'shorts' kind of look like a ripped version of an 'Enterprise' uniform. Maybe they scavenged up the discarded wardrobe after the series ended.

[Trent]

Have guess ;) We've had a bit of a leak of what Bay's alien turtles will be like.

http://kupscigar.com/misc/tmnt-movie-costume-michel.jpg

It's a Halloween costume but it's legit so it gives you an idea of what Bay is aiming for.

Dude bro Mikey with sunglasses, ripped 'kick-ass' sports leggings and tattoos lol

Actually the 'shorts' kind of look like a ripped version of an 'Enterprise' uniform. Maybe they scavenged up the discarded wardrobe after the series ended.

Well that's just....... horrible.

Excuse me while i vomit in an envelope and email it to Mr Bay :p

[UltraMarginal]

aside from that the rest of that .gif is from the currently running nickelodian Turtles series. excellent in my opinion.

[griffin]

I think I just brought up a little of my lunch.

At least Bay managed to capture an 80s look, as the necklace, sunnies and tatts makes it look like a cross between a bent cop and a street thug from a bad 80s cop drama.

But I think he "forgot" that these are "Teenagers" (about 15 in the original series), so it could encourage kids to get tattoos before they are old enough to understand the consequences of them (being permanent but getting them as part of a short-lived fad, and could make it harder to get a job later at a place that requires a specific public image).

[kup]

I have been reading the TMNT fanboards and they are going through the same emotional cycles as TF fans did with Bayformers. There is denial and anger and some who are uninitiated on what Bay is all about are even putting hope in that the plot may redeem it all.

Poor zaps.

[Lint]

Hopefully this is some kind of joke

Then again I think I made a similar statement when images from the 1st TF film were leaked

[kup]

Hopefully this is some kind of joke

Then again I think I made a similar statement when images from the 1st TF film were leaked

At DM.Net I set up a 100% fool proof way of verifying if anything leaked from Bayformers was accurate: If it's crap, it's real.

[Paul Agnew]

http://kupscigar.com/misc/tmnt-movie-costume-michel.jpg

Ooh, sweet! That's a pretty nifty take on the Toxic Avenger. A little clean facial-wise, but I suppose they'll work that into the script. :p

[UltraMarginal]

keep in mind that this is a flat print of a haloween costume, there was a transformers one leaded this week as well and it looks just as bad and not much like other TF4 movie designs we've seen.

[millhouse]

keep in mind that this is a flat print of a haloween costume, there was a transformers one leaded this week as well and it looks just as bad and not much like other TF4 movie designs we've seen.

I see your point, but to be fair, Optimus Prime wasn't wearing pants on the Halloween costume, and didn't wear pants in the movie.

I don't mind the tattoos, and I quite like the design (that we can see from this costume anyway!) of the turtles.

But seriously, pants?

[Lord_Zed]

Oh noes!!! Michael Bay killed my childhood again by changing the turtles look!


The Turtles get a makeover every time someone makes a new show or movie, so I'm really not to bothered. He does sorta look more like an 80's street tough which sorta makes sense really, and it does look a bit more like the sorta mishmash outfit of something that lives in the sewer.

The face mask looks ugly as hell though.




But seriously, pants?

What? You wanted to see his turtle junk? Have you not seen Scientifically Accurate Ninja Turtles on Youtube? You'll wish you hadn't. All turtles should be wearing pants after that.

[i_amtrunks]

I think they have dropped the "Teenage" from the title so that gets them out of the tattoo problem.

I expect a change in aesthetic every time we get anew turtles story but there is something off with what little I have seen. I liked the change in the Recent Nickelodeon series and loved the 2002 TMNT series and both of those were vast differences from the original.

[millhouse]

What? You wanted to see his turtle junk? Have you not seen Scientifically Accurate Ninja Turtles on Youtube? You'll wish you hadn't. All turtles should be wearing pants after that.

See, I just figured they might stay to the source material enough to, y'know, not show turtle c--k...

Seriously though, I'm not excited for this film. Not pissed off, just not excited, pretty much how I felt about TF3 after seeing TF2. Maybe the trailer will change my mind, maybe it won't. *shrugs*

[millhouse]

I think they have dropped the "Teenage" from the title so that gets them out of the tattoo problem.

I expect a change in aesthetic every time we get anew turtles story but there is something off with what little I have seen. I liked the change in the Recent Nickelodeon series and loved the 2002 TMNT series and both of those were vast differences from the original.

Agreed on all fronts, sir.

[Hursticon]

Seriously though, I'm not excited for this film. Not pissed off, just not excited, pretty much how I felt about TF3 after seeing TF2. Maybe the trailer will change my mind, maybe it won't. *shrugs*

Ditto. :o

At least after this has come and gone, we'll still have the incredibly brilliant Nickelodeon series to continue with. ;):cool:

[Sinnertwin]

Have a guess ;) We've had a bit of a leak of what Bay's alien turtles will be like.

http://kupscigar.com/misc/tmnt-movie-costume-michel.jpg

I'm not fussed either way
I wonder why they've made the head/mask a different colour to the rest of him

[GoktimusPrime]

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/dd/ddd62cd53421b532f9d708ff8f6aa3938d875b6b522521b6a1 e2bb7c1f183b43.jpg ;)

[kup]

I'm not fussed either way
I wonder why they've made the head/mask a different colour to the rest of him

possibly just cheapening on the mask. The head is just plain plastic without detailing. Even with the scale details, it would still look bad.

Bay has some odd ideas and I don't just mean the new face but all the accessories he is sporting including the tattoo. He seems to completely disregard the history and what 'makes it tick' of whatever franchise he absorbs and literally does whatever he feels like.

[griffin]

These were probably thought up at the same time they were going to be aliens instead of mutants... so maybe it was going to be something comedic, to have aliens picking up on random, mis-matched human fashion elements (like gold chains, sunnies, tats, spandex :p ).

Though, if that was indeed part of his original "action-comedy" pitch of the movie's theme, unfortunately it didn't get dropped with the "alien" element.

[VGMStudios]

Miss fox as April...so sad.
Then again this whole movie is sad.
Really sucks that the rights were sold.

[millhouse]

Though, <snip!> unfortunately it didn't get dropped with the "alien" element.

I recall that rumour/statement coming out, and thought with the recent announcement that the ooze is the alien element, could it have possibly come out of miscommunication/misinterpretation?

IIRC, the ooze was all part of the utrons (krang aliens) story in the original book.

[kup]

I recall that rumour/statement coming out, and thought with the recent announcement that the ooze is the alien element, could it have possibly come out of miscommunication/misinterpretation?

IIRC, the ooze was all part of the utrons (krang aliens) story in the original book.

Yes it was but Bay initially did come out and directly and clearly said that the Turtles were now aliens. Has this changed? Don't know but given how Bay works it wouldn't surprise me if it wasn't and that he is just keeping it underwraps to avoid pre-release backlash.

[millhouse]

Yes it was but Bay initially did come out and directly and clearly said that the Turtles were now aliens. Has this changed? Don't know but given how Bay works it wouldn't surprise me if it wasn't and that he is just keeping it underwraps to avoid pre-release backlash.

Hey, I'd honestly just believe that Bay knows little about the properties he options and miscommunicated. I believe he's that ignorant.

[Gutsman Heavy]

Can't be any worse than the 3rd movie.

[Trent]

Can't be any worse than the 3rd movie.

That sounds like a challenge that Bay would be willing to accept :p

[kup]

Can't be any worse than the 3rd movie.


You underestimate Bay ;)

[UltraMarginal]

I honestly thought the third movie was a lot better than the second.

[Paulbot]

I honestly thought the third movie was a lot better than the second.

For a moment I thought you meant "Turtles in Time" was better than "Secret of the Ooze"!

[Trent]

For a moment I thought you meant "Turtles in Time" was better than "Secret of the Ooze"!

The decision to not include Casey Jones for almost all of it was the downfall. Him in ancient Japan would have made it infinitely better ;)

[griffin]

As someone who recently bought a 4-pack from a US DVD ebay-online-store for about $10, the first movie was indeed where it should have ended... but like MMPR, there was just too much money made from the first movie, so it forced a rushed sequel to attempt to cash in before the fad died.
Unfortunately, they were TOO rushed.
The second one should have featured more of the cartoon elements, since that was where the fad was for the movies to feed from. Two mutants that weren't Bebop & Rocksteady? A professor that wasn't Baxter? A missing Casey? There were way too many elements missing for the current TMNT fans (from the cartoon) to have to accept... all the while, trying to understand the awkward plot.
Then the third one came along, and no Shredder, a Casey that doesn't even fulfil his role as a fighter in the movie at all, and an unusual plot device of travelling to ancient Japan when there is still a wealth of contemporary elements (like Dimension X) to play with.
The fourth movie was CGI, but I prefer the Live Action format for "full Movies" when they already have the animation medium for the episodic TV show. But aside from personal taste on the format, we have another movie without the main nemesis - Shredder. It's like having Optimus without Megatron... it just isn't right, and doesn't feel balanced. They have to explain a whole new villain to an audience wanting to see the "TMNT Universe", instead of just getting right into the story and resolution.
And then it felt more like an episode than a movie, with so much left unexplained and unresolved with the Foot Clan.

So aside from the Michael Bay and Megan Fox elements of this fifth movie, there sounds like a lot of the mainstream TMNT elements in it, so if Bay can stay out of the production of this and just bankroll it, we might have a decent movie out of it.
Not sure about having 6 people involved in the script though... that's never a good sign.

[i_amtrunks]

Funny thing about TMNT is that Shredder dies in the first "arc" of the comic and only comes back in sci-fi ways.

It was the cartoon (and subsequent cartoons) that (imo correctly) brought back the Shredder time and time again. I agree that the Shredder transcends the other TMNT villains and should be the focus.

As a kid I always wondered why Bebop, Rocksteady, Baxter etc were not used in the second movie. As I got older I assumed there was an issue with copyright or licensing but they still used April, Shredder, Splinter the Turtles and Casey in the last two films, so that does not make much sense.

Third movie was fun, but massively flawed, should have been material for the 8th or so movie!

I think the 2002 Turtles series got the ideas right for how to make the franchise move onto enemies other than Shredder, and the most recent series is doing a bang up job with the Utrom and Karai being big players on the villain front.

[Gutsman Heavy]

As a kid I always wondered why Bebop, Rocksteady, Baxter etc


Bebop & Rocksteady were replaced at the insistence of Eastman, who hated the cartoon. Scientist wasn't Baxter because he was actually an ultrom before that idea got cut.

[kurdt_the_goat]

I don't mind the 3rd movie but it really serves to show what an incredible job Henson's creature shop did on the original movie Turtles! The 3rd movie's just don't look or animate right. That said, i developed a bit more appreciation for them after seeing The Next Mutation show!

[XMan]

http://http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/notyetamovie/news/?a=93587

It's a smaller image, but does show the final designs, I think they look great from what you can see.

I know I may be alone, but I am looking forward to it.

[kup]

http://http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/notyetamovie/news/?a=93587

It's a smaller image, but does show the final designs, I think they look great from what you can see.

I know I may be alone, but I am looking forward to it.

link is broken

Edit: Looked it up and found a working link - They look like Kaiju with masks.

[XMan]

An image of Shredder has just been shown ok comicbookmovie.com
I'm on my phone so don't wanna post another broken link, but he looks evil great!

[kup]

An image of Shredder has just been shown ok comicbookmovie.com
I'm on my phone so don't wanna post another broken link, but he looks evil great!

Yeah, certainly more passable but still a bit weird:

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=28i5dgl&s=8#.Uuhs2xAzFD8

[fatbot]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/q71/1499566_10152201599551967_90935986_n.jpg

[kup]

ok better than the costume but why are they now so fat?

[Lint]

An image of Shredder has just been shown ok comicbookmovie.com
I'm on my phone so don't wanna post another broken link, but he looks evil great!

I agree, very reminiscent of super shredder from the 2nd film. Hopefully he gets better justice in battle though. If not, at least get voiced by James AveryRIP:( for the laughs :p


ok better than the costume but why are they now so fat?
To better relate with an American audience :rolleyes:

[fatbot]

ok better than the costume but why are they now so fat?

I think muscular is the look they are going for

[Hursticon]

They sort of give off the impression of Gridiron players in semi-ninja-type-getups, with shells on their backs :p - To be honest, I'm not entirely put off on them but nor am I completely sold on 'em either. :o

Shredder on the other hand looks to be a big fan of sharp edges though huh? :D

[Trent]

They sort of give off the impression of Gridiron players in semi-ninja-type-getups, with shells on their backs :p - To be honest, I'm not entirely put off on them but nor am I completely sold on 'em either. :o

Shredder on the other hand looks to be a big fan of sharp edges though huh? :D

Looks like he could make a pretty mean coleslaw doesn't he? ;)

[Sinnertwin]

Apart from his role as producer, how much input would Michael Bay have on this project? Script? Cinematography? Character Design? How involved is Michael with this project?

[millhouse]

Apart from his role as producer, how much input would Michael Bay have on this project? Script? Cinematography? Character Design? How involved is Michael with this project?

No-one really knows. It depends on how much he is a "creative" producer, and how much he is writing the cheques and teeing up the deals. He's not really involved (beyond financing) with a heap of the horror remakes that Platinum Dunes lived off for a while, but... *shrugs* who knows?

[Sinnertwin]

No-one really knows. It depends on how much he is a "creative" producer, and how much he is writing the cheques and teeing up the deals. He's not really involved (beyond financing) with a heap of the horror remakes that Platinum Dunes lived off for a while, but... *shrugs* who knows?


I was doing some reading on some international sites & kept seeing the "Bay ruined my childhood" followed by the "OMG Shredder looks amazeballs" posts & was curious as to how much of the new TmNT is actually a product of Bay's doing
Cheers, Millhouse :)

[Lord_Zed]

All things considered, that Turtle does look like he could kick some ass.

[griffin]

Apart from his role as producer, how much input would Michael Bay have on this project? Script? Cinematography? Character Design? How involved is Michael with this project?

I think his name could just be there since it is his company producing it, so just like Hasbro's "Brian Goldner" being an "Executive Producer" for the Transformers Movies to approve of the instigation of the project and the final product, Michael Bay is probably just rubber stamping/vetoing what his money is paying for.

Since he's so busy with TF4 at the moment, he's probably not too involved in TMNT to do much outside of reviewing the daily updates and pre-production decisions... and would probably only step in if he's worried about the project going off the rails.
The Director and other producers would be taking up most of the workload and creativity.

[Burn]

He probably has as much sway in TMNT as Don Murphy has in Transformers.

But the TF movie haters don't hate on Murphy like they do Bay. But because Bay's name is attached to TMNT, he gets all the blame.

Funny that.

[VERT]

http://www.juanelway.com/first-look-at-the-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles/ Just found this while my son & I were looking for any news

[kup]

http://www.juanelway.com/first-look-at-the-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles/ Just found this while my son & I were looking for any news

Yeah that's what we are discussing.

[Sky Shadow]

Okay, this is going beyond a joke: http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/mar/13/michael-bay-alfred-hitchcock-birds-remake?CMP=fb_gu

[griffin]

Maybe the birds explode like kamikaze-bombers... :p

[VERT]

Okay, this is going beyond a joke: http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/mar/13/michael-bay-alfred-hitchcock-birds-remake?CMP=fb_gu

Oh god no :eek:

[kup]

Okay, this is going beyond a joke: http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/mar/13/michael-bay-alfred-hitchcock-birds-remake?CMP=fb_gu

What an insult to a classic movie. Michael Bay can go and die.

Doesn't he have any respect for the history of his own industry? That is a classic Hitchcock film made by someone who cared about the artistry of film making not some Summer Blockbuster from some years ago or a cartoon franchise.

[UltraMarginal]

He's just bankrolling it, which means he'll have some sway but he's not directing.

[kup]

He's just bankrolling it, which means he'll have some sway but he's not directing.

He can't help himself. He will have his sway.

[5FDP]

He's just bankrolling it, which means he'll have some sway but he's not directing.


He can't help himself. He will have his sway.

I agree with UM. He bankrolled the Friday the 13th reboot as well and reports stated that he ended up walking out of the opening in disgust. Pretty sure he'd be too busy right now working on TF4 anyway.

[drifand]

I missed this entire thread, this is fake right? After all the 2014 movie is megan fox as april in it and she had enough of the bay's directing, so this can't be right.

[Penetrator]

shredder doesnt look too bad. the turtles kinda remind if of toxic avenger :D

anyway, until the trailer/movie is out the we'll see. I remember a lot of people didnt like the character designs when they leaked out before the TF movie was released and we're still continuing to get more TF movies and we're still watching them. :)

[VERT]

shredder doesnt look too bad. the turtles kinda remind if of toxic avenger :D

anyway, until the trailer/movie is out the we'll see. I remember a lot of people didnt like the character designs when they leaked out before the TF movie was released and we're still continuing to get more TF movies and we're still watching them. :)

Only out of some twisted loyalty to the brand. I would not cry if this is the last one.

[kup]

shredder doesnt look too bad. the turtles kinda remind if of toxic avenger :D

anyway, until the trailer/movie is out the we'll see. I remember a lot of people didnt like the character designs when they leaked out before the TF movie was released and we're still continuing to get more TF movies and we're still watching them. :)

That doesn't make Bay's TF films good movies.

[Gutsman Heavy]

The list of bad Turtles adaptions has always out weighed the good. Dayum shame.

[Paulbot]

Trailer tomorrow. You can see some screenshots from the trailer here (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/03/26/two-screenshots-from-the-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-trailer-dropping-tomorrow/) including April O'Neil in her yellow jacket

[griffin]

I like Turtles, but I just don't think I can watch this with Megan Fox in it. She is one "actress" :p I can't stand, especially since getting the cosmetic surgery to give her that plastic face of hers.

[KaRNiV8L PRiME]

http://youtu.be/nCjsWpM9zFU

[XMan]

OMG :eek:

I loved that! I cant wait, it looks great.

[Paulbot]

That's better than I expected. It feels right, more like a modern version of the first film.

[drifand]

hmm...so there isn't any issues with Megan fox and Bay afterall. Looks way....way better than the first ever flim.

But may not be there yet. If any of you ever read the first few real and original TMNT comics, you will know these guys are serious.

[Bartrim]

Pleasantly surprised by that trailer. The last bit with Michaelangelo even gave me a slight chuckle.

[millhouse]

The last bit with Michaelangelo even gave me a slight chuckle.

Agreed. Personality and design wise, the turtles might actually work. Shame about Megan Fox though.

[Hursticon]

Pleasantly surprised by that trailer. The last bit with Michaelangelo even gave me a slight chuckle.

I feel much the same way, although Caucasian Shredder needs a little more "Oroku Saki" :cool: - Definitely a mis-Casting there but overall I'm looking forward to checking it out. ;):)

[5FDP]

This looks good. I'm not on the Megan Fox hate wagon as she's never slighted me personally and I don't buy into the gossip publications, so this is not a deciding factor for me if I see the film or not. I'm a fan of TMNT pure and simple. IMO she's still hot and I wouldn't kick her out of bed for farting :D

[griffin]

They look too fat/chunky/large... which doesn't look right when they are moving so fast. They aren't the right size and build to be so agile and dexterous.

It is likely to spawn sequels, so Megan had better watch what she says publicly if she wants to keep the role (which will be harder to replace than the previous April O-Neil, who was a "nobody" actress, making it easier to replace her).

[kup]

It's a decent trailer but then again, all Bay movies seem to have good trailers. Overall I did not see anything 'new' here and they didn't have Fox delivering any lines for a reason - You won't have that benefit once you are watching the film ;)

The noses are freaky though.

[Gutsman Heavy]

Can someone explain the anti Fox thing? Can't be because she is a crap actor, pretty much everyone in these bay-esc films are

[griffin]

I don't think there is a huge anti-Fox thing... but she was probably the weakest (least important character) element in the first two movies (and wasn't too animated with her acting - she was just there as eye candy).
As you could see in the TMNT trailer, she is like a stunned fish, just standing there, staring in all her scenes.... which seemed to be her primary role in TFs. (probably just told by the Director, "just stand there, keep quiet, and look pretty" :p )

It's also mostly the way she portrays herself as an egotistical celebrity (even biting the hand that fed her, giving her that celebrity status through the TFs movie). There are a lot of movie stars that are humble and charitable, and there are a lot who are fully up themselves, chasing cameras, snubbing their fans at public events and resorting to plastic surgery to regain "beauty" that they think they are already losing.

That's her public image to everyone, but for some members here though, it was our personal interaction with her that we are usually referring to. At the 2007 movie premiere in Sydney, she was the cast/crew member who wanted to spend her time with the media at both movie and media events, while Bay and Taylor were keen to interact with the fans.

[Penetrator]

Dark knight bank guy as The Shredder

He sure looks evil and bad ass enough in most of his movies, but he is no oroku saki

not a complaint, just curious to see where this would go. actually quite excited

would love to see some of the comic characters appear in the sequals :p

[GoktimusPrime]

I'll give Fox credit for one thing -- at least she does see herself as an actress and does try to act. I'm not saying that she succeeds terribly well, but she does view acting as her career. This is different from say Rosie Huntington Whiteley who's primary career is modelling, and her acting stint was just something on the side. RHW's "acting" makes Fox look good. :p

As for the trailer, I'll admit it does look fantastic. But we all know that Bay is really good at creating beautiful trailers that suck audiences into cinemas and pump heaps of money... but it doesn't necessarily mean the films are any good. One of my Year 8 students today referred to the Transformers films as the highest grossing bad movies of all time. ;) I'm not necessarily saying that TMNT will be good or bad... but it's hard to judge a Bay film by its trailer. :rolleyes:

IMO the look of the Turtles themselves remind me of the 1989 computer game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles_(1989_video_game)) (especially the Famicom/NES version) with the longer legs and rounder shells.

[XMan]

It's not a Michael Bay film :mad:

[kup]

It's not a Michael Bay film :mad:

In the trailer, the first name you see is his so I say it is ;)

Directed by some guy with Michael Bay pulling the strings...even the trailer looks Michael Bay.

[XMan]

YOU! look like a Michael Bay movie! :D :p

[drifand]

Some people are hating the new turtle looks but the difference here is I hated the cartoon and all the other movies done so far as they were not like the original comics.

I am going to try and enjoy this one.

[UltraMarginal]

They look too fat/chunky/large... which doesn't look right when they are moving so fast. They aren't the right size and build to be so agile and dexterous.


In my opinion they have always been too chunky fat and large to move around so quick. they're frickin turtles, not known for their grace and agility ever.:D

[drifand]

Watched the trailer again, size does look right to me. I just hope there isn't too many jokes which would spoil it. Raphael is known to be the most defiant.

[Spiritprime]

I'm very excited about the film and I cannot wait to see it. Bring it on!

[XMan]

Watched the trailer again, size does look right to me. I just hope there isn't too many jokes which would spoil it. Raphael is known to be the most defiant.

Personally I am beyond happy with their size and the way Leo flipped and broke the brick laying on the edge :eek:

I think with Nickelodeon being behind it with producing rights (along with Bay) there has to be expected that there will be a little houmor here and there.

From the 1.30min teaser, all I could tell was at least Donny and Mikey seem to have their trademark personalities, Leo looked tough as all nails, and rather silent, but did anyone actually see Raph? ?

[Paulbot]

Raphael is the one that hits the truck with his shell (I saw a freeze frame of that where you could see his sai)

[Sinnertwin]

In the trailer, the first name you see is his so I say it is ;)

Directed by some guy with Michael Bay pulling the strings...even the trailer looks Michael Bay.

I don't know about it being his movie, per se, maybe it is, maybe it isn't. From a promotional point of view, i assume that Bay would be more marketable & would create a greater awareness campaign than Liebesman :)

[bassbot]

Raphael is the one that hits the truck with his shell (I saw a freeze frame of that where you could see his sai)

Yup, that's Raph.

I get the most character from Leo and Mikey in this trailer. Michaelangelo being the one to (apparently) reveal and first talk to April is cool. But the thing I hate (so far) is Megan Fox as April O'Neil... ah well.

Hoping it will be entertaining, seems likely from the trailer.

Also - a sliding snow TMNT action scene - pretty nifty right there!

[Paulbot]

It is likely to spawn sequels, so Megan had better watch what she says publicly if she wants to keep the role (which will be harder to replace than the previous April O-Neil, who was a "nobody" actress, making it easier to replace her).

"Nobody" actress. Poor Judith Hoag.

I had to look it up, and apparently she wasn't in the second movie because she wanted a better script and more money.

The thing I found remarkable though, Judith was only 22 when they shot the first movie, five years younger than Megan Fox now playing the same role. Was it unflattering wardrobe or is my memory off because I recall April in the first movie as looking older than 22!

I haven't seen the first movie in a very long time, although I still quote it from time to time. I only have it on VHS. Need to track down a DVD copy.

[griffin]

"Nobody" actress. Poor Judith Hoag.

I had to look it up, and apparently she wasn't in the second movie because she wanted a better script and more money.

The thing I found remarkable though, Judith was only 22 when they shot the first movie, five years younger than Megan Fox now playing the same role. Was it unflattering wardrobe or is my memory off because I recall April in the first movie as looking older than 22!

I haven't seen the first movie in a very long time, although I still quote it from time to time. I only have it on VHS. Need to track down a DVD copy.

I just bought the 4-pack from this US source (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-Film-Collection-DVD-/301130151634?pt=US_DVD_HD_DVD_Blu_ray&hash=item461cc176d2) for just $21 (plus $5 shipping), or if you prefer Blu-ray, the original 3 movies for $17 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-2-Teena-Blu-ray-/390795696675?pt=US_DVD_HD_DVD_Blu_ray&hash=item5afd3d1a23).
(I bought a few different movies and CDs a couple months back, and they even combined shipping... as if it wasn't cheap enough already)

That actress Judith Hoag certainly plays a lot of one-off guest roles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Hoag), without ever landing a big part in a series or movie. It's funny that her wiki page notes TMNT as being her most known role... and you said she turned down a part in the sequels. I guess it wouldn't have mattered, as the 2nd and 3rd movies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles_%28film_series%29) were fairly cringe-worthy, even by this partial fan.
And yes, she does look a lot older than 22 to me too.

As a kid back then, and even now... all I paid attention to was the turtles, splinter and the bad guys, so never noticed or cared who played April. She wasn't an important character. The demographic being targeted in those 3 movies were pre-teen, so didn't need to show sexy or cleavage* to have her be anything more than the "human element" for the audience to learn about the Turtles (like the role of Sam in the 2007 TFs movie).
(*unlike the cleavage and curves the cartoon series April was drawn with (https://www.google.com.au/search?safe=active&hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=666&q=april+o%27neil&oq=april+o%27neil&gs_l=img.3...2183.7365.0.7729.12.7.0.5.0.0.241.112 4.3j0j4.7.0....0...1ac.1.39.img..8.4.465._RCzTnOmv zk#hl=en&q=april+o%27neil+cartoon&safe=active&tbm=isch)... now THAT was something to notice. :p )

Depending on if you are a fan of Fox, this is either going to ruin some teenage fantasies, or improve them (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-OODS58Old2I/USfcL4NuoFI/AAAAAAAAEYE/azoJgeyDgJI/s1600/Megan+&+April.png). ;)

[5FDP]

Depending on if you are a fan of Fox, this is either going to ruin some teenage fantasies, or improve them (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-OODS58Old2I/USfcL4NuoFI/AAAAAAAAEYE/azoJgeyDgJI/s1600/Megan+&+April.png). ;)

I'm a fan of hot looking women :D

[kup]

I showed the trailer to a friend who was a huge Turtle fan in the 80s and actually likes Michael Bay..

She hated the trailer and raved on on how terrible the Turtles look as they are now all tall and bulky like body builders. Megan Fox as April was also a big negative.

For me, Megan Fox is probably the biggest negative but I am not having any expectations on plot which would be my other big issue due to 'Michael Bay' legacy.

[5FDP]

http://i62.tinypic.com/65qpp2.jpg


;) :D

[Paulbot]

I just bought the 4-pack from this US source (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-Film-Collection-DVD-/301130151634?pt=US_DVD_HD_DVD_Blu_ray&hash=item461cc176d2) for just $21 (plus $5 shipping), or if you prefer Blu-ray, the original 3 movies for $17 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-2-Teena-Blu-ray-/390795696675?pt=US_DVD_HD_DVD_Blu_ray&hash=item5afd3d1a23).
(I bought a few different movies and CDs a couple months back, and they even combined shipping... as if it wasn't cheap enough already)

That actress Judith Hoag certainly plays a lot of one-off guest roles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Hoag), without ever landing a big part in a series or movie. It's funny that her wiki page notes TMNT as being her most known role... and you said she turned down a part in the sequels. I guess it wouldn't have mattered, as the 2nd and 3rd movies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles_%28film_series%29) were fairly cringe-worthy, even by this partial fan.
And yes, she does look a lot older than 22 to me too.

As a kid back then, and even now... all I paid attention to was the turtles, splinter and the bad guys, so never noticed or cared who played April. She wasn't an important character. The demographic being targeted in those 3 movies were pre-teen, so didn't need to show sexy or cleavage* to have her be anything more than the "human element" for the audience to learn about the Turtles (like the role of Sam in the 2007 TFs movie).
(*unlike the cleavage and curves the cartoon series April was drawn with (https://www.google.com.au/search?safe=active&hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=666&q=april+o%27neil&oq=april+o%27neil&gs_l=img.3...2183.7365.0.7729.12.7.0.5.0.0.241.112 4.3j0j4.7.0....0...1ac.1.39.img..8.4.465._RCzTnOmv zk#hl=en&q=april+o%27neil+cartoon&safe=active&tbm=isch)... now THAT was something to notice. :p )

Depending on if you are a fan of Fox, this is either going to ruin some teenage fantasies, or improve them (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-OODS58Old2I/USfcL4NuoFI/AAAAAAAAEYE/azoJgeyDgJI/s1600/Megan+&+April.png). ;)

I find, despite it being at least 15 years since I last watched, I remember the first movie very well and quite fondly. I wouldn't mind a copy of the first and maybe the second, but the third and TMNT not so much. I think I've only seen the third once (when I saw it at the cinema). But I do worry that it won't hold up to my memory of it.. although the Jim Henson Turtles in the first film are still well done.

As a kid I paid attention to April in the first movie, she seemed interesting to me, more so than the jumpsuit reporter version. In the second movie though she seemed more generic and forgettable, and maybe that's to do with the actress. You're right though that she's like Sam in the TF movie, but her story is important to the first movie plot, more so than Casey's involvement. Sure she's get to be someone for exposition to happen to, but her investigation into the Foot is a plot driver, and she mirrors the Turtles story in the loss of a father and home. (Same way that Danny's story too does, but I found him very annoying as a kid.)

[Megatran]

Depending on if you are a fan of Fox, this is either going to ruin some teenage fantasies, or improve them (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-OODS58Old2I/USfcL4NuoFI/AAAAAAAAEYE/azoJgeyDgJI/s1600/Megan+&+April.png). ;)

I like the way she grasps the trophy in her hand. Impressive. :D

[Blink90210]

If you guys have 10 min to spare, my buddy and I have a vlog and we spoke a little bit about the recently released trailer. Feel free to give us your thoughts.

http://tsoetedja.blogspot.com.au/2014/03/the-insert-name-here-show-episode-17.html

I'm hopeful it'll be decent, as I mentioned in the vlog, the movies in the last few years have been pretty enjoyable so it'll have a certain standard to be compared to

[kup]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t31.0-8/p843x403/886454_712224358842187_693918590_o.jpg

Which do you prefer?

[5FDP]

My guess is if you're asking people on this forum which they prefer the majority are going to select the first picture because it's what most of us grew up with (if going by Trev's 'Average age of your Transformers Fan/Ozformers Member'). I would too. But I'm open to change and interpretation. We went through the same thing when images of TF1 were released and Optimus Prime had a mouth. We're all used to it by now. It's a generational thing.