Masterpiece Soundwave and Acid Storm appearing a bit early at US TRU

[UltraMarginal]

It looks like they are turning up a little early in the states. in more (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-masterpiece-47/hasbro-masterpiece-soundwave-at-us-toysrus-retail-178074/)than one location (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/toysrus-exclusive-hasbro-masterpiece-soundwave-sighted-at-retail/27972/)



I might stop past my local this Thursday night for a gander, just in case.:D

Either way I think I'll probably be checking once a week for the next couple months till they hit.

[MayzaPrime]

I cheated and bought Acid Storm off Amazon and got him posted to my friend who lives is Chicago.

[Necare]

My soundwave arrived to my address...in the US. Guess I will see him long after everyone here gets there's from tru australia.

Oh well.

[liegeprime]

Well the online stock at BBTS is already sold out for Acid Storm :(:(, dayuum missed it... I just hope his retail sale here doesn't get botched up like MP 10

[BigTransformerTrev]

My soundwave arrived to my address...in the US. Guess I will see him long after everyone here gets there's from tru australia.

Oh well.

At least you definetly have him and wont have to go through all the stress and searching that the rest of us will have to endure in the upcoming months

[Steve90]

So does anyone know if soundwave is coming to the toys r us here?

Not sure if i should spend 270 online and buy the takara version :(

[1AZRAEL1]

So does anyone know if soundwave is coming to the toys r us here?

Not sure if i should spend 270 online and buy the takara version :(

Yes he is due here in November? But you'll have to hunt and jump on him quick as soon as he is released.

[GoktimusPrime]

So does anyone know if soundwave is coming to the toys r us here?
As 1AZRAEL1 said, it's scheduled to come out here as a Toys R Us exclusive in November. As to how rare or common it will be... hard to tell. Previous TRU exclusive MPs have been common enough (e.g. Grimlock, Rodimus), Starscream was commonly found but sold super quick then became rare, Optimus Prime was initially very rare but then became easier to find a few months later when they released more... but then Thundercracker was heaps hard to find (I personally never found one). So it's kinda hard to predict, though I suppose to err on the side of caution it may be best to assume that it will be uncommon. :o

The price on the TRU database is $149.99 which is an excellent price for this toy - as you rightfully pointed out, getting the Japanese version will set you back $270. I'd just wait until November and grab a Hasbro version. :)

[drifand]

On the note, the Jap reissue version will only be out in Oct. I could pull back from the Jap one but I think I like to have one each.

[GoktimusPrime]

...you do know that Jap (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jap) is considered a racial slur against Japanese people, right? :mad: You can just abbreviate it as "JP" if you can't be bothered typing out "Japanese", as that is an officially accepted abbreviation (e.g. .jp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.jp), JPY (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_yen) etc.).

[nexusnixx]

lets stick to toy discussion... no need lessons on ethics to language to equality pls.....


...you do know that Jap (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jap) is considered a racial slur against Japanese people, right? :mad: You can just abbreviate it as "JP" if you can't be bothered typing out "Japanese", as that is an officially accepted abbreviation (e.g. .jp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.jp), JPY (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_yen) etc.).

[dirge]

lets stick to toy discussion... no need lessons on ethics to language to equality pls.....

A quick "btw this can offend" isn't out of place though. Gok has lived in Japan & so is in a position to provide this insight.

Back to Masterpieces please :)

/mod.

[doublespy]

Word from America now seems to be that people can't find Soundwave in stores. It's sold out on the the TRU website and they're NOT going to restock. The scalpers got'em all and they keep the cassettes and sell Soundwave by itself. So half of the Soundwaves floating around on ebay don't even have the cassettes.:eek:

Guess this does not bode well for us since every man and his dog in the country is trying to get it.

[dirge]

Guess this does not bode well for us since every man and his dog in the country is trying to get it.

Hopefully if/when he turns up here he doesn't move all that quickly; both Starscreams & Rodimus were available for at least a couple of weeks at our TRU stores. The Primes also hung around for a while. The scalpers aren't quite out in force here like in the US of A.

[drifand]

It is what I worry about but we can only do this much. Just hope we can get one each.

[doublespy]

Hopefully if/when he turns up here he doesn't move all that quickly; both Starscreams & Rodimus were available for at least a couple of weeks at our TRU stores. The Primes also hung around for a while. The scalpers aren't quite out in force here like in the US of A.

I guess like Prime, Soundwave has the character nostalgia effect. He's the guy everyone remembers so casual fans are equally eager as the hardcore fans. Last year I saw MP 10 in store only once and I read on the boards somewhere there weren't many Primes turning up on ebay after the release so presumably the majority were actually bought by fans/collectors. Add the scalpers on top of all this I just wish I'll have the same luck as I did with Prime last year (which I really doubt now..)

[dirge]

I guess like Prime, Soundwave has the character nostalgia effect.

One thing that actually works in our favour in this respect is the high prices here; a MP at TRU isn't a trivial purchase for the casual fans & it's a deterrent to scalpers to an extent too. I guess we'll see what happens but if they last a week, picking Soundwave up should be fairly doable.

[jazzcomp]

MP Prime had a re-stock/2nd shipment. But if it were only the 1st, many wouldn't have one.

[CBratron]

I have little faith that I'll ever personally see a Masterpiece toy on Australian shelves. I'll secure one online.

[GoktimusPrime]

Word from America now seems to be that people can't find Soundwave in stores. It's sold out on the the TRU website and they're NOT going to restock. The scalpers got'em all and they keep the cassettes and sell Soundwave by itself. So half of the Soundwaves floating around on ebay don't even have the cassettes.:eek:
IMO the best thing for the fandom to do to counter this is NOT purchase toys off these scalpers. If more people became more adamant in refusing to pay above standard retail prices for current or recent toys then it would drive these scum out of business. Scalpers will only continue to supply their services so long as demand exists to warrant it.


I guess like Prime, Soundwave has the character nostalgia effect. He's the guy everyone remembers so casual fans are equally eager as the hardcore fans. Last year I saw MP 10 in store only once and I read on the boards somewhere there weren't many Primes turning up on ebay after the release so presumably the majority were actually bought by fans/collectors. Add the scalpers on top of all this I just wish I'll have the same luck as I did with Prime last year (which I really doubt now..)
When MP10 first came out it sold like hotcakes, then for the next few weeks it was nigh impossible to find. But then when TRU restocked MP10s they became considerably easier to find and the stock didn't fly off shelves like it initially did - most like because that initial demand had been satiated. So might see that with MP Soundwave.

What Hasbro and TRU should really do is learn from MP10 and order more freakin' stock. But then again... they have had MPs who shelfwarmed too like Rodimus (who still sold slowly even after the price was reduced to $60) and the mother of all MP shelfwarmers, Ghost Starscream. I know that as fans we can see Soundwave having broader appeal as a well known early G1 character, but from a non-fan TRU retail purchaser's POV they may not be able to see the difference. :/

[kup]

Yep just did an ebay search. Lots and lots of Hasbro Soundwaves without the tapes selling for $180-$200. Each tape is $50-$70 plus $25 shipping.

Pretty horrible as I could of just settled with buying a replacement laserbeak of Ebay to replace my bad QC ridden one but at that cost? No way.

[GoktimusPrime]

Yep just did an ebay search. Lots and lots of Hasbro Soundwaves without the tapes selling for $180-$200.
At $180 you might as well buy a MISB TakaraTOMY MP Soundwave. :rolleyes:

[dirge]

At $180 you might as well buy a MISB TakaraTOMY MP Soundwave. :rolleyes:

Yeah but don't forget that here we're paying Hasbro AU prices or postage costs for the TT version. Americans aren't used to importing & paying for the postage like so many here are.

[drifand]

Yeah but don't forget that here we're paying Hasbro AU prices or postage costs for the TT version. Americans aren't used to importing & paying for the postage like so many here are.

I agree,

Unless, you have relatives and other contacts in Singapore, Hong Kong, Japan and Malaysia to get them for you while they visiting you I would say. lol

relative of mine is coming in a weeks time from Singapore, and even then it is embarrassing if I asked him to get a toy at my age. lol

[BigTransformerTrev]

I have a friend in the USA who's TRU has finally got MP SW in. She has put a depoist down on one and says she is going to pick him up Thursday :).

I'm cautiously hopeful but not counting my cyber-chickens until she physically gets it from the store to her home and then to mine. Fearing that she will go in Thursday and find it was accidently sold or something as that would seem par for the course.

[tinyJazz]

I have a friend in the USA who's TRU has finally got MP SW in. She has put a depoist down on one and says she is going to pick him up Thursday :).

I'm cautiously hopeful but not counting my cyber-chickens until she physically gets it from the store to her home and then to mine. Fearing that she will go in Thursday and find it was accidently sold or something as that would seem par for the course.

:eek: Awesome! I'm happy for you dude, I hope it all works out. :)

[Ultra Mackness]

I have a friend in the USA who's TRU has finally got MP SW in. She has put a depoist down on one and says she is going to pick him up Thursday :).

I'm cautiously hopeful but not counting my cyber-chickens until she physically gets it from the store to her home and then to mine. Fearing that she will go in Thursday and find it was accidently sold or something as that would seem par for the course.

Got my fingers crossed for you it works out mate!

[SuspectimusPrime]

I have a friend in the USA who's TRU has finally got MP SW in. She has put a depoist down on one and says she is going to pick him up Thursday :).

I'm cautiously hopeful but not counting my cyber-chickens until she physically gets it from the store to her home and then to mine. Fearing that she will go in Thursday and find it was accidently sold or something as that would seem par for the course.

That's some friend :) Congrats!

[BigTransformerTrev]

:eek: Awesome! I'm happy for you dude, I hope it all works out. :)


Got my fingers crossed for you it works out mate!


That's some friend :) Congrats!




LOOK AT THE PHOTO I GOT SENT THIS MORNING FROM MY FRIEND PAM IN THE USA!!!! DEAR PRIMUS THE DREAM MIGHT JUST BE COMING TRUE!!!!!


http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b615/BigAngryTrev/SOUNDWAVE_zpsca9fc228.jpg (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/BigAngryTrev/media/SOUNDWAVE_zpsca9fc228.jpg.html)



Now I just gotta get him from her to me in one piece!;)

[canofwhoopass_87]

BigTrev, the amount of time wasted and the sheer stress you put yourself through - you could've just forked out the extra $50 and got the complete Takara set. They just reissued it and it's not that much more expensive.

If other people are worried about not getting a Hasbro version here at TRU, I'd pickup the 2nd run of MP Takara Soundwave while it's cheap.

[BigTransformerTrev]

BigTrev, the amount of time wasted and the sheer stress you put yourself through - you could've just forked out the extra $50 and got the complete Takara set. They just reissued it and it's not that much more expensive.

If other people are worried about not getting a Hasbro version here at TRU, I'd pickup the 2nd run of MP Takara Soundwave while it's cheap.

Um... yeah, then I would have had to fork out an extra $50 wouldn't I. And considering how many figures I am lucky enough to get and my funds are finite why pay that much extra when I don't have to? The money I saved pays for a Go - Voyager Shockwave.

Cheers Ultra Mackness, Tiny Jazz & SuspectimusPrime for you well wishes :)

[Ultra Mackness]

One of the aspects of TF acquisition I enjoy is the hunt as it gives the toy a story. This MP Soundwave will have a great story behind its acquisition that you can recall whenever you see it - can't wait to see photos of it when you get it in hand :)

[canofwhoopass_87]

I too enjoy a good hunt, but it's not worth it when you've had to write a lengthy letter of complaint to TRU USA.

I see time as being valuable too. On top of that, the stress and frustration of having to deal with TRU has to be factored in. A simply click and buy of the second run of the Takara MP is just an alternative which I've suggested, given the difficulties with supply at the moment.

But if you believe what you've gone through is worth the $50 saving then go for your life.

[BigTransformerTrev]

One of the aspects of TF acquisition I enjoy is the hunt as it gives the toy a story. This MP Soundwave will have a great story behind its acquisition that you can recall whenever you see it - can't wait to see photos of it when you get it in hand :)

One of the coolest things about getting this figure is reestablishing an old friendship. The woman in the photo, Pam, lived with my best friend Tam, myself and my girlfriend (now wife) Sarah in the servants quarters of a 700 year old castle that had been converted into a hotel in the countryside in Scotland where we all worked at various jobs (I was the night porter who helped himself to the bar a lot ;)). This was 10 years ago and the only contact Pam and I have had since returning to our respective countries is the odd email every couple of years. Since 'The Hunt for the Decepticon' we've had dozens of emails, really caught up on each others lives and she is going to bring her family down under to visit in the next year or so. And she is feeling really good about herself as she found a rare toy for an old friend :)

You couldn't be more right Ultra Mackness :)





http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b615/BigAngryTrev/SOUNDWAVE_zpsca9fc228.jpg (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/BigAngryTrev/media/SOUNDWAVE_zpsca9fc228.jpg.html)

[Ultra Mackness]

Now that's a good story! :)

[GoktimusPrime]

BigTrev, the amount of time wasted and the sheer stress you put yourself through - you could've just forked out the extra $50 and got the complete Takara set. They just reissued it and it's not that much more expensive.
$50 ain't chump change! :eek: As Trev said, you could buy a Voyager Class TF at full Australian RRP for that price! Heck -- $50 could pay for an additional MP Autobot car at preorder price! (my MP Lambor cost me $50 and my MP Nissans cost me about $55 each)!

[canofwhoopass_87]

Some people don't like dealing with the stress and frustration (i.e. the whole TRU USA thing with MP Soundwave) and value time as much as they do money. All I'm suggesting is that you can simply buy the Takara version instead and save yourself the time and hassle.

[Lint]

Some people don't like dealing with the stress and frustration (i.e. the whole TRU USA thing with MP Soundwave) and value time as much as they do money. All I'm suggesting is that you can simply buy the Takara version instead and save yourself the time and hassle.

Thats right, why waste time keeping tabs on release dates, stress and panic over availability or even bother THINKING about Transformers at all when you can rest assured that your friendly ebay scalper will always hold the toy you covet safety in their garden shed long after it's been released. Only a fool would put something frivolous like a 200% markup before their health and wellbeing.:p

[canofwhoopass_87]

Thats right, why waste time keeping tabs on release dates, stress and panic over availability or even bother THINKING about Transformers at all when you can rest assured that your friendly ebay scalper will always hold the toy you covet safety in their garden shed long after it's been released. Only a fool would put something frivolous like a 200% markup before their health and wellbeing.:p

I don't see the link between what we're talking about and your issue with scalpers. There's a thread in the ebay listings section for you to vent, so I'm not entirely sure why you've quoted what I've said and tried moving it in a completely unrelated direction.

[Lint]

I don't see the link between what we're talking about and your issue with scalpers. There's a thread in the ebay listings section for you to vent, so I'm not entirely sure why you've quoted what I've said and tried moving it in a completely unrelated direction.

That was exactly my intention because you've made your point in your last three posts in this topic and seem intent on dwelling on it.

Your inability to establish a link is simply due to my poor attempt and sarcasm :rolleyes:

As for more points in favour of the TRU release: While Hasbro's traditional 'display' boxes are great for MISB collectors, as someone who likes to liberate but then re-box due to lack of display space, I am pretty happy with Hasbro's smart looking box. I'd be all over this if I didn't already fork out $200+ myself for the Takara release.

[BigTransformerTrev]

BigTrev, the amount of time wasted and the sheer stress you put yourself through - you could've just forked out the extra $50 and got the complete Takara set. They just reissued it and it's not that much more expensive.

If other people are worried about not getting a Hasbro version here at TRU, I'd pickup the 2nd run of MP Takara Soundwave while it's cheap.


I too enjoy a good hunt, but it's not worth it when you've had to write a lengthy letter of complaint to TRU USA.

I see time as being valuable too. On top of that, the stress and frustration of having to deal with TRU has to be factored in. A simply click and buy of the second run of the Takara MP is just an alternative which I've suggested, given the difficulties with supply at the moment.

But if you believe what you've gone through is worth the $50 saving then go for your life.


Some people don't like dealing with the stress and frustration (i.e. the whole TRU USA thing with MP Soundwave) and value time as much as they do money. All I'm suggesting is that you can simply buy the Takara version instead and save yourself the time and hassle.




Time? Well I don't think I have wasted a massive amount of time:



July 18th: Try to buy MP SW on TRUOnline to find out they do not ship overseas

July 19th: Write a letter of complaint to TRUOnline (while at work before the students showed up so not much else to do) asking for answers, didn't take me long and as a long time customer don't I deserve some answers? And if no-one ever complains to these companies, they never know they are doing anything wrong. As to your point that the Takara version had been reissued and I was wasting my time writing complaint letters, the reissue came out after I wrote the letter. You mention a few times the hassle I put myself through dealing with TRU, well it was really only one attempted purchase and one letter the next day. Not like I've had to deal with them on a daily basis.

July 19th: Put myself on UltraMarginals very genererous 'Proxy Pick-Up' thread in case he can find SW for me when he hits here. Put a shout-out on my FB Transformatorium page. Again, both took me a couple of minutes.

July 20th: Email my friend Pam in the USA to keep an eye out for me, have a great catch up with her.

August 17th: Pam comes through!



Not a massive amount of time wasted, got to chat to a bunch of friends, and I will end up with what I was after without spending an extra $50. All win-win in my book! And if TRU change their policies in the future because people like me complained, so much the better. :)

Not saying you don't have a point dude, after the hassle of getting the Wave 1 microchangers was determined to just buy wave 2 altogether online even if it cost a bit more so I do understand the mindset you propose (I lucked out though and found all of wave 2 in one go in Big W in Bathurst). Just saying that it wasn't the giant stress and hassle or time-sucking endeavor you describe it as and I saved $50 so don't really know what your problem is.

[canofwhoopass_87]

If you think you've done alright going through all that to secure a Hasbro version from the U.S then it's all good, but for all the complaining you did about the entire saga - I'm merely suggesting that there's a cheap second run of Takara MP Soundwave up for grabs right now

[BigTransformerTrev]

If you think you've done alright going through all that to secure a Hasbro version from the U.S then it's all good, but for all the complaining you did about the entire saga - I'm merely suggesting that there's a cheap second run of Takara MP Soundwave up for grabs right now

Yeah, I had a massive whinge the night of the 18th and the morning of the 19th - guess what - I wasn't the only one! I was annoyed and I vented! A lot of folk did. A lot of folk are still annoyed! Why you are whinging about my actions which have never impacted upon you I'm not sure.

Going through all that?! All what? One attempted purchase, one letter & one email to a friend?! I've spent more time than that adding gypsum to my fruit tree's root systems just this morning! I'm starting to think it's actually going to be more time consuming defending my actions to you at this rate! :mad: You are the one turning this into a saga - why do you care so much anyway? Or is it just a matter of having to win the argument at this point? Way to suck all the fun out of what is otherwise an awesome find for me from a good friend :(. Think I'll go back and read Ultra Mackness' posts - they were more cheerful and fun :)

Go spend the extra $50 and buy your Takara version and enjoy it mate, I'll do the same with my Hasbro one and good luck to us both.

[Jaisun]

Well said Trev... Almost everyone was/is on their toes about another MP-10 fiasco with SW (myself included), so one of us securing him overseas via an old friend, in turn rekindling the friendship is a good thing, I don't see why this should be derailed because it doesn't suit whoops personal preference of acquisition.

[GoktimusPrime]

BigAngryTrev has managed to obtain MP Soundwave:
1) At the equivalent of AU RRP; a good price and considerable saving (which is particularly important when you have a family).
2) Obtained the toy 3 months ahead of local retail release. This will also save him time/hassle otherwise spent trying to obtain a local version, especially considering his remote location.
3) Rekindled an old friendship <--- priceless.

I don't see any disadvantage for Trev here. I wish I paid $150 for my MP Soundwave/Cassettes instead of $200! But this just seems like a complete win-win-win situation for BAT! :)


As for more points in favour of the TRU release: While Hasbro's traditional 'display' boxes are great for MISB collectors, as someone who likes to liberate but then re-box due to lack of display space, I am pretty happy with Hasbro's smart looking box. I'd be all over this if I didn't already fork out $200+ myself for the Takara release.
^Agree.

I don't like the look of Hasbro's MP boxes at all. They just look cheap and tacky... they're more like big rectangular carded toys than a boxed toy -- essentially this big boxy bubbles with a card and tray inside. I've gotten rid of all my Hasbro MP boxes except for MP10. Although the tray for it sits on the back of my wife's car as a display and is totally sun-faded. :p Yeah, that's how much I care about Hasbro's MP packaging </sarcasm> ;)

Tak(TOM)'s MP boxes look quite nice and I've kept them all. Hasbro's new MP boxes, from the look of it, doesn't look as nice as TakTOM's MP boxes to me - but the fact that it's actually a proper box and not a rectangular bubble already makes it a better box! :D

...I still can't believe Hasbro used Generations Thundercracker's card art for their MP Thundercracker box^card inside a bubble. :rolleyes:

[Jaisun]

...I still can't believe Hasbro used Generations Thundercracker's card art for their MP Thundercracker box^card inside a bubble. :rolleyes:

It's Ha$bro, what's not to believe? =oP

But yes, very valid summary of Trevs aquisition =o)

[canofwhoopass_87]

Well said Trev... Almost everyone was/is on their toes about another MP-10 fiasco with SW (myself included), so one of us securing him overseas via an old friend, in turn rekindling the friendship is a good thing, I don't see why this should be derailed because it doesn't suit whoops personal preference of acquisition.

Don't recall saying anything about Trev picking up a MP SW from a friend being a bad thing - it worked out well, no doubt about it. Geez, all I did was suggest Takara's second run of MP SW as an alternative to the Hasbro version and ya get crucified for it.

I'm waiting up on the local TRU release too, so what the heck are you on about Jaisun?

[griffin]

If people want to discuss their acquisitions, their personal purchasing priorities, or comment on other's, please direct it to the discussion section.
If people want to discuss the original news posting or any updates, or want to post an update, please continue here.

[Jaisun]

Don't recall saying anything about Trev picking up a MP SW from a friend being a bad thing - it worked out well, no doubt about it. Geez, all I did was suggest Takara's second run of MP SW as an alternative to the Hasbro version and ya get crucified for it.

I'm waiting up on the local TRU release too, so what the heck are you on about Jaisun?

Okay...


BigTrev, the amount of time wasted and the sheer stress you put yourself through - you could've just forked out the extra $50 and got the complete Takara set. They just reissued it and it's not that much more expensive.

If other people are worried about not getting a Hasbro version here at TRU, I'd pickup the 2nd run of MP Takara Soundwave while it's cheap.

I too enjoy a good hunt, but it's not worth it when you've had to write a lengthy letter of complaint to TRU USA.

I see time as being valuable too. On top of that, the stress and frustration of having to deal with TRU has to be factored in. A simply click and buy of the second run of the Takara MP is just an alternative which I've suggested, given the difficulties with supply at the moment.

But if you believe what you've gone through is worth the $50 saving then go for your life.

Some people don't like dealing with the stress and frustration (i.e. the whole TRU USA thing with MP Soundwave) and value time as much as they do money. All I'm suggesting is that you can simply buy the Takara version instead and save yourself the time and hassle.

If you think you've done alright going through all that to secure a Hasbro version from the U.S then it's all good, but for all the complaining you did about the entire saga - I'm merely suggesting that there's a cheap second run of Takara MP Soundwave up for grabs right now

TakTom suggestion mentioned 5 times in 5 posts when Trev had already confirmed the acquisition... Who are you trying to convince? If you too are waiting for the local release, then why are you repeatedly bringing up the TakTom option that is irrelevant to everyone else waiting for the same thing? Your approach to Trevs acquisition sounds like you're bitter from a previous burn and can't be happy for him. You may not have said it's a bad thing, but you haven't said anything good about it either. Your suggestion alone is fine and could help some decide between waiting and going for it now, but you surrounded it with negativity (stress, complaining, time wasted, frustration) making Trev sound like a big sook, when everyone else was happy for him. That's what I'm on about...

Sorry for replying here griffin, I wasn't sure exactly where you wanted this sort of thing to be continued.

[drifand]

Ur....I have the takara version on order but I am missing some tapes? have anyone missed the thought? I have not seen the reissue of the cassettes.

Honestly though, I would prefer getting the Hasbro version.

[GoktimusPrime]

Ur....I have the takara version on order but I am missing some tapes? have anyone missed the thought? I have not seen the reissue of the cassettes.

Honestly though, I would prefer getting the Hasbro version.
Yeah, the TakTOM version doesn't come w/ the Cassettes*. I did manage to get my TakTOM Soundwave and all Cassettes for $200 all up, but that's cos I preordered and got discounts. But even then, the Hasbro price still wins.

If it weren't for the fact that I'd already purchased the TakTOM version before news of the Hasbro version came out, I would have absolutely skipped it and be waiting for the local release right now. The only thing I prefer about the TakTOM version is the darker blue -- I actually prefer the yellow visor on Hasbro's -- and the extra Energon cubes (through Amazon; I think the Asian market version also comes w/ them + coin). But none of that is worth paying an extra $50 (the cost of an MP Autobot car on preorder) for! :eek:

Smiles all round for anyone getting Hasbro MP Soundwave IMO. :)

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*Also some MP Rumbles came with mismatching pairs of Piledrivers (as mine did). Getting replacement parts from overseas is a greater hassle than being potentially able to get an exchange locally, or possibly contacting Hasbro AU to source replacement parts. I haven't heard any reports of Hasbro Rumble^Frenzy^the Red Cassette Robot (:p) being packaged with mismatching piledrivers though.

[Sinnertwin]

Ur....I have the takara version on order but I am missing some tapes? have anyone missed the thought? I have not seen the reissue of the cassettes.

Honestly though, I would prefer getting the Hasbro version.

You haven't missed anything. The casettes haven't been reissued... yet. But considering that Soundwave's had a second run, hopefully we'll see then soon

[Sharky]

My brother in-law is been sent to NY by his work for a week, whilst on his travels he is going to keep an eye out for a SW for me,

fingers crossed

[jazzcomp]

Goodluck! I've been looking for TRU online for stores that have stock for in-store pickup but I can't find one near SF. I did find one for acid storm and they have 15% discount last weekend but I do not want to hassle my contact there.

[canofwhoopass_87]

Jaison - it just seemed like Trev went through quite a bit of trouble to get his Hasbro MP Soundwave.

In future, when people are having a hard time sourcing a tf figure, I'll try not to post up any suggestions or alternatives. For some reason it makes people like you angry.


You haven't missed anything. The casettes haven't been reissued... yet. But considering that Soundwave's had a second run, hopefully we'll see then soon

They've reissued Prime, Sideswipe and Grimlock so hopefully there will be enough demand for a second run of the tapes (and Starscream too)

[CBratron]

Ur....I have the takara version on order but I am missing some tapes? have anyone missed the thought? I have not seen the reissue of the cassettes.

Honestly though, I would prefer getting the Hasbro version.

If you prefer it, consider dropping the Takara version and picking up the Hasbro one instead. Mine cost US$200 is sitting in my PoL and seriously tempting me to ship it.

[kaiden]

Jaison - it just seemed like Trev went through quite a bit of trouble to get his Hasbro MP Soundwave.

In future, when people are having a hard time sourcing a tf figure, I'll try not to post up any suggestions or alternatives. For some reason it makes people like you angry.

They've reissued Prime, Sideswipe and Grimlock so hopefully there will be enough demand for a second run of the tapes (and Starscream too)

*hugs* don't let it get to ya, i'm always appreciative of the help the community provides and i would not want anyone to be discouraged to offer advice to everyone here.

hopefully they reissue Red Alert too as i still have one with the wrong head but don't actually want to swap it. unfortunately cant get another one with the correct head at rrp, and they're now all $100+

[tinyJazz]

Maybe after the run of Datsuns Takara will reissue the tapes and Lamborghinis. They have said they were surprised by the high level of demand for the MP line, and adjusted their production run for Prowl etc accordingly, so I think it's possible.

[drifand]

I am a bit surprise there isn't any indication of Hasbro versions for the cars?

[drifand]

You haven't missed anything. The casettes haven't been reissued... yet. But considering that Soundwave's had a second run, hopefully we'll see then soon

Yeah, I am thinking it might be more worth buying the Hasbro Soundwave and I get best of both worlds. Anyway, is more of a waiting game for me and reading up here for updates.

[tinyJazz]

I am a bit surprise there isn't any indication of Hasbro versions for the cars?

This was discussed at SDCC/Botcon, Hasbro currently have no intention of releasing the Autobot cars because of licensing issues.

[drifand]

This was discussed at SDCC/Botcon, Hasbro currently have no intention of releasing the Autobot cars because of licensing issues.

I am under the impression that Takara has the licensing so this would not be an issue. I am surprised that there are issues, as it wouldn't be made if that was the case. Pretty sure Nissan wouldn't be an issue. but oh well I am not going into this as the cars are not my priority anyway.

[1AZRAEL1]

I am under the impression that Takara has the licensing so this would not be an issue. I am surprised that there are issues, as it wouldn't be made if that was the case. Pretty sure Nissan wouldn't be an issue. but oh well I am not going into this as the cars are not my priority anyway.

TakTom have the licenses yes, but Hasbro would need to obtain the licenses too to be able to release their versions of the MP.

[drifand]

TakTom have the licenses yes, but Hasbro would need to obtain the licenses too to be able to release their versions of the MP.

I thought is kind of obvious what is next Hasbro's step. btw I am not into company's politics here, but since a transformer toy has been made, I find it hard to believe if Hasbro decides to pass it up. But anyway, I got my answers.

[1AZRAEL1]

I thought is kind of obvious what is next Hasbro's step. btw I am not into company's politics here, but since a transformer toy has been made, I find it hard to believe if Hasbro decides to pass it up. But anyway, I got my answers.

They did originally say they weren't gonna do Grimlock, then they did. Never know though, they may end up doing them eventually.

[Trent]

I am under the impression that Takara has the licensing so this would not be an issue. I am surprised that there are issues, as it wouldn't be made if that was the case. Pretty sure Nissan wouldn't be an issue. but oh well I am not going into this as the cars are not my priority anyway.

Different companies. Takara obtaining a vehicle licence has nothing to do with Hasbro. Hasbro need to obtain their own licence. And because that will cost them money, they are not interested.

[GoktimusPrime]

Trent is absolutely correct. Different legal issues for Hasbro and TakTOM. And this isn't the first time either -- e.g. Car Robot Wild Ride was modified for RiD X-Brawn -- the Mercedes logo was changed to whatever company does that vehicle in the US. BT Prowl also had its Honda logo changed to Acura for the Alternators version. And of course, Hasbro cannot release any G1 Megatron reissue or Masterpiece because of the replica firearm alt mode.


hopefully they reissue Red Alert too as i still have one with the wrong head but don't actually want to swap it. unfortunately cant get another one with the correct head at rrp, and they're now all $100+
I'm surprised you haven't done an exchange, or at very least submitted a request for a replacement head, as you clearly feel that they've provided you with a product that does not match its description.


Maybe after the run of Datsuns Takara will reissue the tapes and Lamborghinis. They have said they were surprised by the high level of demand for the MP line, and adjusted their production run for Prowl etc accordingly, so I think it's possible.
Hmm... that would be good news. I'd get an MP Red Alert if they did another production run. No way I'd pay inflated secondary market prices for it.


Yeah, I am thinking it might be more worth buying the Hasbro Soundwave and I get best of both worlds.
I don't see any reason to get the TakTOM version unless the colours bug you that much and you're willing to fork out an extra fifty bucks for a cosmetic difference! :rolleyes: It might be different if the Hasbro version's colours were bad, but they're not bad -- they're just different (and technically more G1 accurate, since the G1 toy came before the cartoon).

I reckon TakTOM should release a limited exclusive G1 US comic coloured MP Soundwave -- replace the blue with purple -- similar to the US comic coloured MP Grimlock they did. Ditch the Energon cubes and hand scanner and replace it with a spare head that has a mouth instead of faceplate. ;) Maybe even retool Laserbeak as Ratbat. I personally wouldn't get this toy, but considering the popularity of Comic MP Grimlock, I reckon it'd work for TakTOM to do the same for Soundwave.

[drifand]

Not indicating Hasbro is wrong, just find it a waste product on the side lines. After all is an old design car not looking at the current Lambors or Nissans. This isn't the first time Hasbro had asked Lamborghini for copy rights before either. But again is not my call. I only felt is a waste.

As for Soundwave, I can afford both, it doesn't bother me as long as they are at correct prices and not paying inflated pricing. Anything above the $250 mark would be something I start considering on my funds before spending. I am a collector after all.

[Thorns2010]

This was discussed at SDCC/Botcon, Hasbro currently have no intention of releasing the Autobot cars because of licensing issues.

Can you provide a source of a Hasbro rep actually saying licensing issues is the reason?

I've followed all the info I could find from the recent conventions and haven't come across anything suggesting this.

[Sinnertwin]

Can you provide a source of a Hasbro rep actually saying licensing issues is the reason?

I've followed all the info I could find from the recent conventions and haven't come across anything suggesting this.

If i may, TJ



Seibertron.com / Ryan:*"Then again with the Takara Masterpieces, it seems like the smaller scale might be more appealing to American retailers such as Walmart and Target. Are you working with Takara on that or is that too far down the road?"*

Hasbro / Aaron:*"No we work with them on concept with "here's the next one we're thinking about", "what do you think?" so we do discuss it even though we know on the offset that it's for their market. Doing the smaller cars has helped but it's really about the market for Jerry. Do we do a non-connected high end item as an exclusive or where does it fit?"*

Hasbro / Jerry:*"The other thing with Sideswipe too is we have to get the Lamborghini license, which they have, which they were able to secure for the Japanese market. We have not [secured that]. If we're going to do that, we're going to need to approach Lamborghini and setup a licensing deal with them to do that.But we've seen them, we love them, we'd love to bring them to the US, there's no plans exactly yet but Masterpiece will continue. You've got Optimus Prime and Thundercracker this year, so we definitely see the value in bringing them over because fans love them."

You can read the SDCC 2012 interview here (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/sdcc-2012-coverage-interview-with-hasbros-aaron-archer-and-jerry-jivoin/25465/)
Doesn't look like Hasbro have made any inroads towards licensing since.

[kaiden]

I'm surprised you haven't done an exchange, or at very least submitted a request for a replacement head, as you clearly feel that they've provided you with a product that does not match its description.

i have. with RobotKingdom. in May.

it took them a month to reply and then they asked for my address which i gave and a month later i sent another email asking what had happened? and this is after the whole issue with them sending it to the wrong address in the first place.

[Thorns2010]

If i may, TJ



You can read the SDCC 2012 interview here (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/sdcc-2012-coverage-interview-with-hasbros-aaron-archer-and-jerry-jivoin/25465/)
Doesn't look like Hasbro have made any inroads towards licensing since.


I wasn't thinking of 2012, my bad. Just the 2013 ones where there was sadly no comments one way or the other.

Although I will say, to me it just sounds like they were commenting that Hasbro have to get a separate license than Takara, but not that they had tried to get it and got shot down.

Maybe its just me, but I view it as Hasbro hasn't put any major effort or plans into releasing the car MP's, rather than they can't or aren't able to.

[kaiden]

Hasbro hasn't put any major effort or plans into releasing the car MP's, rather than they can't or aren't able to.

well takara only needed to get a license for the japanese market which most people imported from anyway whereas hasbro would have to get a worldwide license which i think would cost more.

any sane person would say hey! those MP cars are awesome and have a tonne of redeco potential but then you go to your local stores and see all those wave 1/2 Transformers shelf warming and go 'ohhh..... yeah -_-'

hasbro just don't know (or want to) how to create demand like the japanese market does.

[GoktimusPrime]

Maybe its just me, but I view it as Hasbro hasn't put any major effort or plans into releasing the car MP's, rather than they can't or aren't able to.
Hasbro don't put a major effort into releasing any Masterpieces at all -- at least, not in terms of developing new moulds. Essentially all they do is adapt Tak(TOM) MPs for their market; it's more of a reactive rather than proactive approach. Ditto G1 reissues.

[tinyJazz]

I am under the impression that Takara has the licensing so this would not be an issue. I am surprised that there are issues, as it wouldn't be made if that was the case. Pretty sure Nissan wouldn't be an issue. but oh well I am not going into this as the cars are not my priority anyway.

Different companies. Takara obtaining a vehicle licence has nothing to do with Hasbro. Hasbro need to obtain their own licence. And because that will cost them money, they are not interested.

Yeah, but just wait for an MP Tracks, I would think Chevrolet would be all over that. (I would too, come on takara)


If i may, TJ



You can read the SDCC 2012 interview here (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/sdcc-2012-coverage-interview-with-hasbros-aaron-archer-and-jerry-jivoin/25465/)
Doesn't look like Hasbro have made any inroads towards licensing since.

Appreciated muchly, thank you. :cool:

[drifand]

[QUOTE=tinyJazz;371074]Yeah, but just wait for an MP Tracks, I would think Chevrolet would be all over that. (I would too, come on takara)
QUOTE]

I wouldn't think is hard, from the view that I seen Binaltech series.
In honestly they are asking for old design car copyrights, not the current cars. I am surprised that VW will allow bumble bee and turned down in earlier binaltech series.

Then again, is all money, I wouldn't have a clue.

[drifand]

Hasbro don't put a major effort into releasing any Masterpieces at all -- at least, not in terms of developing new moulds. Essentially all they do is adapt Tak(TOM) MPs for their market; it's more of a reactive rather than proactive approach. Ditto G1 reissues.

Found it strange when there is Acid Storm and Takara doesn't have.

[drifand]

I wasn't thinking of 2012, my bad. Just the 2013 ones where there was sadly no comments one way or the other.

Although I will say, to me it just sounds like they were commenting that Hasbro have to get a separate license than Takara, but not that they had tried to get it and got shot down.

Maybe its just me, but I view it as Hasbro hasn't put any major effort or plans into releasing the car MP's, rather than they can't or aren't able to.

You are with me dude, from my view, the toy is made and ready, just needed a new box and permission to sell.

If you technically ask me, I think this is one that Hasbro and Takara should have worked hand in hand, thus making the mould more useful than only a one sided product. Again, not my call, and is just a productive view of a toy which I felt it was shared between the two companies. after all it is Transformers.

[Sinnertwin]

Found it strange when there is Acid Storm and Takara doesn't have.

Hasbro doesn't have a Sunstorm & Takara doesn't have a Thundercracker in the new moulds either :)

[Trent]

Found it strange when there is Acid Storm and Takara doesn't have.

That's not a new mould as Gok said. All Hasbro do are repaints and accessories.

[drifand]

Yes guys, I KNOW, just pointing out "isn't a waste of the mould?"

[jazzcomp]

Too late :( Almost found MP SW and AS.

[UltraMarginal]

Too late :( Almost found MP SW and AS.

you're going to have to be more specific.:confused:

[jazzcomp]

you're going to have to be more specific.:confused:
I found a contact that had a spare set unfortunately it was sold - I was a week late :(

[UltraMarginal]

No worries, I'm sure they will be on shelves here for at least a few days if not a week or two.

[danny-boy]

I couldn't wait for the local release so I managed to grab one when they were available on the toys r us website and used a U.S forwarding company. I used the cheapest shipping options and it only just arrived yesterday. The yellow eyes don't bother me as I've got the Hasbro in alt mode and my Takara in robot mode. The best thing about it is all the cassettes in the one package. The packaging is awesome and I'm surprised its in flawless condition after a long journey. All up it cost me just over $150 US dollars. I'm over the moon.

[GoktimusPrime]

The yellow eyes don't bother me as I've got the Hasbro in alt mode and my Takara in robot mode.
The yellow eyes is the best variation on the Hasbro version IMO since G1 Soundwave's eyes were originally yellow anyway! It was only the cartoon that had it red, but the original toy (and Microman toy) had a yellow visor, as did the G1 comics, story books etc etc etc. Soundwave had a yellow visor in the majority of G1 media. :)

[Trent]

The yellow eyes is the best variation on the Hasbro version IMO since G1 Soundwave's eyes were originally yellow anyway! It was only the cartoon that had it red, but the original toy (and Microman toy) had a yellow visor, as did the G1 comics, story books etc etc etc. Soundwave had a yellow visor in the majority of G1 media. :)

Yes but for a lot of fans cartoon is king. Any variation away from it is seen as ruining it forever!!

[Sinnertwin]

Yes but for a lot of fans cartoon is king. Any variation away from it is seen as ruining it forever!!

That's true about the cartoon. I have a few friends that like the odd TF (Soundwave is a favourite along with Smokescreen) but were never interested in other associated media. To them, Soundwave's always had a red visor & Rumble is blue.

[drifand]

That's true about the cartoon. I have a few friends that like the odd TF (Soundwave is a favourite along with Smokescreen) but were never interested in other associated media. To them, Soundwave's always had a red visor & Rumble is blue.

Thought Frenzy was blue, and rumble was red in cartoon?

[BigTransformerTrev]

I couldn't wait for the local release so I managed to grab one when they were available on the toys r us website and used a U.S forwarding company. I used the cheapest shipping options and it only just arrived yesterday. The yellow eyes don't bother me as I've got the Hasbro in alt mode and my Takara in robot mode. The best thing about it is all the cassettes in the one package. The packaging is awesome and I'm surprised its in flawless condition after a long journey. All up it cost me just over $150 US dollars. I'm over the moon.

Mine arrived from my friend in the states who managed to grab me one. Considering he is going to be $150 here and I would have to get it shipped from whatever capital city a mate found it in to my bush town, I think I maybe spent $15 more than what he would have cost me if I had waited. Just gotta wait a few days until I finish helping my mum move to a retirement village up here and then I can finally have a good play with him!

[Sinnertwin]

Thought Frenzy was blue, and rumble was red in cartoon?

The cartoon switched them over. Frenzy was red & Rumble was blue

[drifand]

The cartoon switched them over. Frenzy was red & Rumble was blue

Really? I always thought I saw it the other way round. I have to watch it again. lol

[GoktimusPrime]

Yes but for a lot of fans cartoon is king. Any variation away from it is seen as ruining it forever!!
Sure, and TakaraTOMY's version already caters for that. I think it's cool how Hasbro's differentiated their version and made it more every-other-G1 media accurate. :) They did the same thing w/ Rodimus too, although that toy was a cosmetically lazy execution of what was a good idea. Looks like Hasbro's done a better job this time around w/ Soundwave.


Really? I always thought I saw it the other way round. I have to watch it again. lol
Sinnertwin is right. Frenzy is blue and Rumble is red in every original G1 media except the cartoon where it was switched. At least in the English language version. The Japanese version switched it back; hence why the blue/purple MP Cassette robot is called Frenzy and the red/black one is called Rumble. The whole colour confusion thing with Frenzy and Rumble has never existed in Japan (they have their own other silly unresolvable fan arguments that we don't have in the West though :p)

[Trent]

(they have their own other silly unresolvable fan arguments that we don't have in the West though :p)

Example?

[GoktimusPrime]

Example?
Have you seen Transformers Zone? (if not, check it out - lots of kewl Micromaster action :D)
There's a human character from Earth called "Akira." Do you think he's a boy or a girl? Akira can be a boy's or girl's name in Japanese, it all depends on how the Kanji is written (similar to how some Western names can be male or female depending on spelling); problem is that in the ending credits, manga and all other official sources, Akira's name has only ever been written in Katakana so officially we don't know if it's the masculine form (明) or feminine form (晶). The relatively recent Transformers Dreamworks book describes Akira as a boy, but then we have images like this (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/f/f5/Zone_akiracain.jpg) and this (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/6/64/Zone12FinalPage.jpg) and this (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/d/d5/Earlycainakiraemusa.jpg)... coupled with the fact that at the end of Zone, we see Cain give Akira a bouquet of flowers. Uummm... 'kay... :o So officially Akira's a boy, but some fans will vehemently argue that s/he's a girl - and it's just one of those fan debates that never ends.

...I personally don't care...

[Gofigure]

Have to admit I caved and bought tru soundwave from evil bay :p then recently purchased another from a forum member on a us fan site

I really don't want to miss out when/if this hits our shores..... Then are all gone in a week

[MayzaPrime]

I think I am going to take my chances and wait for the Toys R US release... I have Takara MP Soundwave and the cassettes so I won't be to upset if I miss out.

[UltraMarginal]

Well at this rate with so many people ordering these from overseas, it shouldn't be so hard to find one here, God forbid they end up shelfwarming:D:cool:

[ILikeSoundwave]

Well at this rate with so many people ordering these from overseas, it shouldn't be so hard to find one here, God forbid they end up shelfwarming:D:cool:

If they do shelf warm ill possibly pick up another one the keep in box, but
if goes quickly ill just buy one to leave one for another person hoping to get one. But what are the chances that it will!:D

[drifand]

We get everything last here, I guess. Still waiting on Titans Metroplex then I attend to these.