MP Ultra Magnus Official Pics

[kurdt_the_goat]

Courtesy of Amazon Japan (http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%BF%E3%82%AB%E3%83%A9%E3%83%88%E3%83%9F%E3%8 3%BC-%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%83%95%E3%8 2%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BC-%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%94%E3%8 3%BC%E3%82%B9-MP22-%E3%82%A6%E3%83%AB%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%9E%E3%8 2%B0%E3%83%8A%E3%82%B9/dp/B00JWGI08C/ref=pd_bxgy_t_img_z), click for larger!

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[twincobra]

Looks dope! Can't wait for December (^_-)

[Bidoofdude]

This is fantastic. A must buy, though I'll most likely have to wait for the Hasbro version, as I don't have any money ATM.














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[Omega Metro]

Yes, very sexy. Give me 2 please!:).......for when those tiny arm joints break.

[yoshi594]

really nice! I was hoping he would have individual finger articulation but i guess that's gone way wards unless it's a larger figure? (Metroplex did).

PICS LOOK FANTASTIC! want him now!!! he and wheeljack are the masterpiece toys that I want NOW!

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

Looks nice.

Will wait one the Hasbro version for (hopefully) better colours - I'm happy enough with City Commander that I can pass on this for now.

[kurdt_the_goat]

He really looks huge in that pic with Prime!

http://i.imgur.com/uwneDtd.jpg

[drifand]

Grab one since I don't have mp-10.

[DELTAprime]

Those red legs don't seem so bad now a bit of time has passed.

[drifand]

Those red legs don't seem so bad now a bit of time has passed.

I think I do not watch the cartoon enough to bother me about the colours. I always thought these were quite accurate for me.

[Bidoofdude]

He really looks huge in that pic with Prime!

http://i.imgur.com/uwneDtd.jpg

Optimus has that look on his face that says, "What am I doing with my life?" He's looking into space, all disappointed.

[Holdobot]

So glad I pre-ordered.. Daddy is waiting for his Christmas present! So intrigued to see how the cab breaks down. Also will be interesting to see how the humans fit in as the windows are different to MP-10

[Magnus]

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/336/818/9ce.jpg


Looks nice.

Will wait one the Hasbro version for (hopefully) better colours - I'm happy enough with City Commander that I can pass on this for now.

I'm going to hazard a guess and say that, based on previous MPs, the Hasbro version may have toy-accurate light blue.

[ITZTRU]

As awesome as he is, I didn't think he would be THAT big?! Magnus would be even taller than Grimlock and Scoria? :(

[kaiden]

those red panels that are on the side of the trailer bother me. they should be blue...

[drifand]

As awesome as he is, I didn't think he would be THAT big?! Magnus would be even taller than Grimlock and Scoria? :(

yup there goes your combiners dream if everything needs to be in scale.

[VGMStudios]

All I am saying is that there better be SOME die cast on this guy or many of us will be very upset. That and the tires better be rubber. They look like plastic.

Suffice to say, as awesome as he is, he looks to much like a toy then a MP collectable.

[AJ_Prime]

OMG! :eek::eek: He is everything I imagined he would be and so much more!! Looks amazing!

[High_Q]

While I have no interest in getting MP Ultra Magnus, I'm happy about his relative size to MP-10 since based on the Tokyo Toy Show pics, MP Star Saber seems to be slightly larger than Ultra Magnus.

[Ace]

So do we know if the cab transforms into Magnus without armour? Or is it just his armoured version that we would be getting?

[yoshi594]

So do we know if the cab transforms into Magnus without armour? Or is it just his armoured version that we would be getting?

The cab's lines don't match mp-10 so highly unlucky the cab will be a white mp-10.

[FAPOS]

Hmm and I thought Citizen Stack looked bland! Hate the red bumper too, not that ill ever have him in vehicle form anyways, but still. Like the overall look more than CS I think, but yeah hes definitely gonna need some reprolabels!

Comparison if hes the roughly the same height as CS (im assuming he will be shorter though):
http://s8.postimg.org/r72l0hhf9/Image4.jpg

[Omega Metro]

It will not fit on my Masterpiece shelf!:mad: My whole life is ruined.:(;)

[Megatran]

Magnus feet is too simplistic. That's my only small quibble.


It will not fit on my Masterpiece shelf!:mad: My whole life is ruined.:(;)

I have a solution. He'll fit perfectly on my Masterpiece shelf! :D

[drifand]

Magnus feet is too simplistic. That's my only small quibble.



I have a solution. He'll fit perfectly on my Masterpiece shelf! :D

Pretty sure he could transform to truck mode for desperate times. lol

[z3r03d]

Hmm and I thought Citizen Stack looked bland! Hate the red bumper too, not that ill ever have him in vehicle form anyways, but still. Like the overall look more than CS I think, but yeah hes definitely gonna need some reprolabels!

Comparison if hes the roughly the same height as CS (im assuming he will be shorter though):
http://s8.postimg.org/r72l0hhf9/Image4.jpg

is that a skirt? why is mp22 wearing a skirt?

pretty hard to get pass that bum flap....

[BigTransformerTrev]

I just KNEW he would look better in the official pics! The bum flap sucks a tiny bit otherwise I'm totally onboard :D

[Penetrator]

his gun looks a bit plain and needs a bit more detail

but overall still looks pretty good.

im looking forward to a diaclone and shinning magnus repaint.

[janda the red]

Wow.... He looks brilliant!

Can't wait to get him in hand :D

[twincobra]

Wow that CS head looks ugly in comparison.

[Omega Metro]

He's got quite a sexy crotch and thigh area.....:o..... Did I just say that?:o:o:D

[drifand]

Who here feels this guy is too tall? and who here feels this is correct scaling?

Is still a nice figure for me.

[Sinnertwin]

Who here feels this guy is too tall? and who here feels this is correct scaling?

Is still a nice figure for me.

It's the same as the G1 toy. It's impossible to make a Masterpiece Ultra Magnus with the ability to carry four MP scale cars and still have it be a close approximation to Optimus Prime in robot mode.

[Verno]

What a behemoth! :eek:

[ITZTRU]

yup there goes your combiners dream if everything needs to be in scale.

If relative scale wasn't intended to be an issue in the MP line then why not make bumblebee or sideswipe as tall as MP Prime?

Nice try though.

[ITZTRU]

It's the same as the G1 toy. It's impossible to make a Masterpiece Ultra Magnus with the ability to carry four MP scale cars and still have it be a close approximation to Optimus Prime in robot mode.

My issue isn't with prime. It's with the dinobots. I understand that MP8 was before the "new scaling". I'm just disappointed that he's "that" much taller than grimlock, even with FT's "shoes". It wasn't an expectation. Just would have been nice.

[drifand]

If relative scale wasn't intended to be an issue in the MP line then why not make bumblebee or sideswipe as tall as MP Prime?

Nice try though.

Like said, if you are those who need to have scaled equivalent. The way I am reading the threads is like some are saying he is too big etc....

I only looking at opinions not judging anything. The figure looks fine for me.

[FAPOS]

Wow that CS head looks ugly in comparison.

It really does... especially when you see it next to a 'propper' Magnus head/face.

With my awesome paint shop pro skills:
http://s8.postimg.org/qfbzzmn3p/Image2.jpg

Its like a before and after shot for a fat-burner supplement!

[Penetrator]

actually would like to see a pic of him from the back

[kurdt_the_goat]

I feel like if you combined a few aspects of each design you'd really have the ultimate Magnus.

KFC did a very good job (of their design at least) - mostly with the proportions, but lost it a bit in terms of pure G1 accuracy and definitely the face sculpt. I think if they had the same structure and transform, but used true G1 look instead of the CHUG aesthetic, it'd be pretty much perfect. Knowing that Takara would go pure G1 is probably exactly the reason they went with the approach they did though.

I really like how they handled his legs the most - the MP by comparison looks too City Commander-ish - like he's standing on platforms instead of having actual feet.

I do think the MP will be nicer in person than the pics let on though - like how MP10 Prime looked a bit gorilla-arms in his photos before release, but really doesn't look like that once you have him in hand.

[millhouse]

Re: KFC Citizen Stack:

I really like how they handled his legs the most - the MP by comparison looks too City Commander-ish - like he's standing on platforms instead of having actual feet.

See, I LOVE the Takara legs and feet - particularly the ankle.

[kurdt_the_goat]

Ok well, disregarding the effects this'd have on vehicle mode and transformation, this is what i would have preferred:

- No buttflap
- Blue lower legs
- Thinner side of leg armour
- More defined feet
- Red tail lights and colouring on trailer ramp.
- Slightly longer legs

http://i.imgur.com/qEfQm16l.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/qEfQm16.jpg)

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

I feel like if you combined a few aspects of each design you'd really have the ultimate Magnus.

KFC did a very good job (of their design at least) - mostly with the proportions, but lost it a bit in terms of pure G1 accuracy and definitely the face sculpt. I think if they had the same structure and transform, but used true G1 look instead of the CHUG aesthetic, it'd be pretty much perfect. Knowing that Takara would go pure G1 is probably exactly the reason they went with the approach they did though.

I really like how they handled his legs the most - the MP by comparison looks too City Commander-ish - like he's standing on platforms instead of having actual feet.

I do think the MP will be nicer in person than the pics let on though - like how MP10 Prime looked a bit gorilla-arms in his photos before release, but really doesn't look like that once you have him in hand.
I think the CS get away with better looking legs as his feet are two toned as well. Makes him look like he has boots on, whereas MP just looks a bit 'blobby' for want of another word.

[Penetrator]

Ok well, disregarding the effects this'd have on vehicle mode and transformation, this is what i would have preferred:

- No buttflap
- Blue lower legs
- Thinner side of leg armour
- More defined feet
- Red tail lights and colouring on trailer ramp.
- Slightly longer legs

http://i.imgur.com/qEfQm16l.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/qEfQm16.jpg)

Your PS pic actually does look pretty good and makes him look more streamlined and more details. although i dont remember his feat being so small.

Can someone post a good pic of magnus from the cartoon to compare?

[millhouse]

See, one of the reasons I dig the chunky feet is the theatrical poster to the 1986 movie. IMP Awards has a pic: http://www.impawards.com/1986/posters/transformers_the_movie.jpg

[kurdt_the_goat]

Yeah someone on TFW said the same thing! I can agree that the original is more accurate, but i have a personal preference for normal looking feet, not lumbering slabs :D

[millhouse]

Yeah someone on TFW said the same thing! I can agree that the original is more accurate, but i have a personal preference for normal looking feet, not lumbering slabs :D

Totally understandable and I definitely dig your digibash. I think it likely comes from the fact that IMHO the 1986 movie is the best thing outside the toys. I never really got into the comics or anything, and as such, love the MP line for its pretty solid attempts at going G1 cartoon accurate. :P

[Bidoofdude]

yup there goes your combiners dream if everything needs to be in scale.

https://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0hsgfruIL1r166kao5_250.gif

In all seriousness, he's HUGE. If they announce Galvatron, he's mine. I still don't know if I want a standalone Magnus, as good as he looks.

[VGMStudios]

I guess Im the only one who thinks he looks to plasticy and no like a collectible.

Changing colors of the legs shouldnt be an issue. Since he is all plastic, air brushing the blue on will be a simple task.

[Kranix]

Although I wont be getting him I think they did a really good job on MP Magnus, especially compared to that CS version shown. I actually like the way they have done his feet too, I think if you make them smaller he looks unbalanced. I really wouldn't change him except as others have mentioned, the butt flap doesn't look that good but hardly a deal breaker.

[GoktimusPrime]

One thing about making the robot mode more streamlined is... where would you put those excess parts?

[drifand]

One thing about making the robot mode more streamlined is... where would you put those excess parts?

they suddenly disappeared like in cartoons. lol

[Hursticon]

Bah! - The wait for this behemoth is getting to be painful! :D

[Autocon]

Did magnus always have a red bumper? Would prefer blue or silver.

Good looking bot otherwise

[Blastwave]

Did magnus always have a red bumper? Would prefer blue or silver.

Good looking bot otherwise

Cartoon was red, toy was silver.

[GoktimusPrime]

Perhaps the Hasbro version might be more toy accurate. That's what they did w/ their MP Rodimus. ;)

Here's something I quickly made to compare the G1 cartoon model w/ the MP toy.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/comparisons/ultramagnus_mpstockcartooncompar_zps201bcf02.jpg

[drifand]

Looks accurate honestly, we are really being picky at this point.

[Kapryiath]

blue legs would be a bonus, though someone somewhere pointed out that the pieces visible in bot mode shouldn't be visible in alt mode, so stickers to cover the red is a big possibility from a 3p, i'd totally buy them as the red legs are my only real complaint with this fellow ( gotten over the odd white flaps on the legs as it seems to be fairly toy accurate and the red bumper is g1 toon accurate )

[Penetrator]

does he need bigger eyes on the toy? they look rather small compared to the cartoon?

[GoktimusPrime]

It looks like they've done the best they can to make the toy as show-like as possible. Remember that these toys cannot magically defy laws of reality like the cartoon has. Yes, the toy has more red, but that's because the alt mode's trailer has lots of red too. In the cartoon, these reds seem to vanish or just transform into blue (Kung Pow'd!). The G1 toy is very red, whereas MP Magnus has managed to reduce/isolate the red and allowed other colours to come through, such as a blue waist and white upper legs like the cartoon (these parts were all red on the G1 toy).

It'll be interesting to see what Hasbro does with the colours for this toy. If I were them I would:
+ Make the alt mode more toy-accurate by replacing the red bumper with silver chrome.
+ Give him yellow eyes, like the G1 box art (http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/images/2/2f/Ultramagnus-boxart.jpg) and some G1 comic appearances (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTAwNFg4MDA=/$T2eC16dHJIQE9qUHuF!wBQN+qj,T2!~~60_35.JPG)
+ Give him red upper legs like the original toy and G1 comic model (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-images/wallpapers/images/6625-1/Marvel+Ultra+Magnus+1600+x+1200.jpg)
+ Either give him a red waist like the G1 toy, or a white waist like the G1 comic. Probably the latter.
+ Maybe even a completely blue face, like the second (and more common) variant of G1 Ultra Magnus (the one w/ the lite painted white cab robot & plastic tyres ;))


does he need bigger eyes on the toy? they look rather small compared to the cartoon?
Eh (http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/5/55/Target_2006_Magnus_Big_head.jpg)... Ultra (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/9/9e/MagnusVGalv2006.jpg) Magnus' (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/4/4d/Sosfromsandra_magnus_pwns_galvy.jpg) eye (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/b/bc/4soldiers_magnus_vs_sixshot.jpg) shape (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/2/2f/TFTM_UltraMagnus_pointy.jpg) varied (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/4/46/SurpriseParty_Magnus_smiling.jpg) throughout (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/4/4c/KillingJar_negative_Magnus_Marissa.jpg) G1 (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/a/a1/DarkAwakening_Magnus_hands.jpg). ;) (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/attachments/transformers-news-rumors/27433827d1398276265-masterpiece-ultra-magnus-prototype-ultra-mag-3.jpg)

I'm personally really stoked about this toy. I skipped the first MP Ultra Magnus (https://s3.amazonaws.com/tf.images/reduced-image_203_106.jpg), even when it became available here as a Target exclusive for $80. :o

[VGMStudios]

Looks accurate honestly, we are really being picky at this point.

Thats what I said, but on one listens to me anyways.

[1AZRAEL1]

Thats what I said, but on one listens to me anyways.

Did you say something VGM? :p ;)

Yea alot of people are being really picky. I love it cannot wait.

[drifand]

I'm personally really stoked about this toy. I skipped the first MP Ultra Magnus (https://s3.amazonaws.com/tf.images/reduced-image_203_106.jpg), even when it became available here as a Target exclusive for $80. :o

That wasn't Ultra Magnus. it was just plain lazy slap on white Optimus, which most people know it.

[drifand]

Did you say something VGM? :p ;)

Yea alot of people are being really picky. I love it cannot wait.

The only valid finding was the rear flap and I still could easily not see it as it is at the rear.

[Hursticon]

Thats what I said, but on one listens to me anyways.

Not at all dude, I can't wait to own this big-brute! :D

Not sure I feel the same way as yourself in regards to him looking overly platic-y tho, I do agree his shins are somewhat plain but I think I'm willing to forgive that as everything else about him makes up for it in my eyes. ;):)

[Tober]

www.tfw2005.com/boards/attachments/transformers-news-rumors/27455970d1406403126-masterpiece-ultra-magnus-prototype-dm140902-765x1024__scaled_800.jpg

on phone. image linking is a pita.

[liegeprime]

Wohoo it comes with 2 people.... Now we can all recreate our "how to kill Daniel moments" that we've been imagining for decades now. :D

It's nice that it can also house the Matrix though it won't open hehehe.

Looks plain but I hope there be decals for him too.

[Hursticon]

www.tfw2005.com/boards/attachments/transformers-news-rumors/27455970d1406403126-masterpiece-ultra-magnus-prototype-dm140902-765x1024__scaled_800.jpg

on phone. image linking is a pita.

;)

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Crap/dm140902-765x1024__scaled_800_zpse14268c0.jpg~original

[GoktimusPrime]

I wonder if that faux white Optimus Prime semi-face is readily viewable, or only if you unscrew and remove the face plate? (kinda like MP01's faux mouth (http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/download/file.php?id=16686&t=1) (resembling Powermaster Optimus Prime's grill mouth (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_iKLevhkVaMo/TPf_V-vlZxI/AAAAAAAACF4/EtRXwqlNw4k/s1600/Aftermath+-+prowl+grieves.jpg)) was only visible if you unscrew and remove the faceplate)

[kaiden]

i want to see more detailed pics of the cab interior :)

[twizz]

Alt Mode is nice, those Legs are stumpy!

[DELTAprime]

New pics over at Seibertron

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/transformers-masterpiece-mp22-ultra-magnus-magazine-scan/30996/

Could someone that reads Japanese please tell us what the caption on the picture of the mutant face or whatever that is says.

[AJ_Prime]

This just keeps looking better and better!!

[Lint]

The hidden face thing is a poorly executed and unnecessary gimmick. Lovin the cab interior though!

[GoktimusPrime]

The hidden face thing is a poorly executed and unnecessary gimmick. Lovin the cab interior though!
Eh, it's pretty much a toy Easter Egg, like the grill-mouth on MP-1 Convoy. So long as it's relatively unobtrusive and doesn't impede or compromise on the toy's design or engineering, then I don't mind it.

[Penetrator]

ANyone with super photoshop skills able to do up a magnus in daiclone colours?

[drifand]

It kind of appears to me that there are more people here interested in Starsaber than this guy.

I am equally excited for both mps but from the people I know, a lot are giving this guy the meh... Maybe later and no rush.
I be quite sure that hasbro will colour him brighter blue like what they did with Optimus

[SharkyMcShark]

Does this have a white MP-10 hiding inside it or is it an all new (and useless) truck mode?

[Sinnertwin]

Eh, it's pretty much a toy Easter Egg, like the grill-mouth on MP-1 Convoy. So long as it's relatively unobtrusive and doesn't impede or compromise on the toy's design or engineering, then I don't mind it.

I wouldn't say that the grill on MP01 is an Easter Egg, but an abandoned feature. An Easter Egg is something that you're meant to find without taking pieces apart -unless you count disconnecting the head & ripping the face plate off as one.


Does this have a white MP-10 hiding inside it or is it an all new (and useless) truck mode?

it's all inclusive. No white MP10

[SharkyMcShark]

it's all inclusive. No white MP10


Well that's boring

[griffin]

It's being faithful to the original cartoon version of Ultra Magnus, which the MP designers seem to prioritise with the gimmicks and features, which had no sign of an inner robot before Dreamwave retconned one into it. Going by the original series animation (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WDIwqDWsJA) (best to watch on mute), the cab usually folds straight into the trailer to form the robot mode, or change colours as it morphs into the robot mode or truck mode.
There was one instance in the cartoon (The Rebirth I think) where he had the trailer appear and attach like Optimus Prime's trailer, but that could have been one animator assuming that the trailer was like Prime's, in that it wasn't part of the robot mode... or it was just done intentionally to visually match up to Optimus who was next to him.

[kurdt_the_goat]

A new pic from TF Expo posted by Cyclonus79 on TFW, confirming Magnus' paint job (inner legs) has been slightly amended as first seen in the blurry pic a week or so ago with Kobayashi holding him in hand.

http://i.imgur.com/b4dyIval.jpg

A better pic from TFW user Monari

http://i.imgur.com/3q1QorU.jpg

[Nevac]

Seriously why do people want a white Optimus? That was the main complaint about almost all the Magnus releases post Dreamwave. Not to mention it would more then double the cost of the MP for a gimmick few people are going to display not to mention it would involve parts forming with the cost of reduced pose ability and articulation.

It also looks like some of you guys got your wish at least partially seems to have less red on the legs then before. He now has blue on the inner sides and a little bit of white just below the thighs. Personally I preferred the red on the lower legs as it had too much blue on it and it went well with the chest.

[SharkyMcShark]

Seriously why do people want a white Optimus? That was the main complaint about almost all the Magnus releases post Dreamwave. Not to mention it would more then double the cost of the MP for a gimmick few people are going to display not to mention it would involve parts forming with the cost of reduced pose ability and articulation.


Because at least with the white Optimus hiding inside the big puffy blocky limbs that are very obviously blocking their own articulation (most blatantly on the elbows) and preventing dynamic posing (knees) can be justified. As it is now the figure looks like it has an MP-10 hiding in it just because it looks so squat and chibified in terms of proportions. I look at this figure and I see all the downsides of the white Optimus in armour paradigm without and of the bonuses.


I think something about the proportions of this one throws me off - for my money Citizen Stack looks superior on almost every level if we're talking an integrated cab Ultra Magnus (the head and perhaps the waist being the only exceptions).

[Nevac]

The reason he looks squat is due to the fact he needs to scale in relation to the current masterpiece figures. In the cartoon Ultra Magnus is a similar size to Optimus in robot mode even though Optimus is just a cab and Magnus is the trailer and cab. Since we don't have mass shifting in real life with Transformers you need to put that extra mass somewhere and the most obvious place is making him squat and stocky. The resulting figure is still larger compared to MP10 but he doesn't completely dwarf him like citizen stack. Scale for phase 2 of the masterpiece line is extremely important in my opinion.

You're also forgetting about cost it has been noted that the lack of the white prime has made him much cheaper. With the added complexity of his trailer would you or everyone else be fine with paying over 300 USD for a white prime brick that needs to parts form? This Magnus is going to be half the price and considering what we're going to get it's a steal. Now even though he isn't out yet I can't say if he'll be worth that but I'm guessing he is going to be great considering Takara's past MP's and how he looks right now I'm quite pleased with how they went with him.

[SharkyMcShark]

With the added complexity of his trailer would you or everyone else be fine with paying over 300 USD for a white prime brick that needs to parts form?

All I'll say on the matter is I'd be many many times more likely to pay in excess of $300 USD for a Masterpiece Magnus that has a fully functional MP Prime clone inner body and partsforming armour than however much they're charging for this, which is apparently $189 USD (tfsource).

That's more than they want for Citizen Stack, which as above looks much better, mainly because it doesn't sacrifice functionality and aesthetics for scale.

[dirge]

It kind of appears to me that there are more people here interested in Starsaber than this guy.

I am equally excited for both mps but from the people I know, a lot are giving this guy the meh... Maybe later and no rush.
I be quite sure that hasbro will colour him brighter blue like what they did with Optimus

Personally, I'm not at all interested in Star Saber & very interested in Magnus (whom I've already pre-ordered). I'm actually surprised there's so much interest in SS - sure a lot of us have seen/own Victory on DVD now, but few of us grew up with the character.

The Star Saber toy looks good, but the character just doesn't hold much interest for me. Admittedly I'm happy with my Robotmasters Victory Saber (even if it doesn't come with Jan!).

[drifand]

I have not ever seen a starsaber cartoon episode.
I have however seen the toy once and maybe was wowed as a teenager but that's about it.

As for Magnus, I am more than happy with this result obviously there are some who wants it to come close to a g1 toy and disregard the cartoon accurate.
I am not a fan of buying toys above $300 mark if I can help it.

[dirge]

I've seen both Star Saber & his cartoon appearances. The original toy (and Robotmasters version - both have a Victory Leo option too) both do a better job of representing his cartoon portrayal than MP04 Ultra Magnus. Which is why I'm more excited about this MP Magnus.

[AJ_Prime]

From these new pics of Ultra Magnus from the expo it looks as if they may have gone with the chrome bumper after all. Which is nice.

[CoRDS]

i think he looks fantastic and better than i thought he would end up looking. very very happy that my wife has one pre-ordered for me.

[drifand]

i think he looks fantastic and better than i thought he would end up looking. very very happy that my wife has one pre-ordered for me.

A understanding wife, how lucky .

To me I still prefer this than KFC .

[CoRDS]

A understanding wife, how lucky .

To me I still prefer this than KFC .

she puts up with it :)

[koolkollectibleskhai]

Here are some more of the latest pics! I love how Takara fixed the legs by adding the blue inner paint and extending the white shin! It's that attention to detail that makes me love Takara!!

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/w552/chockey88/31_zps425ee5f0.jpg (http://s1329.photobucket.com/user/chockey88/media/31_zps425ee5f0.jpg.html)


http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/w552/chockey88/32_zpse39cf745.jpg (http://s1329.photobucket.com/user/chockey88/media/32_zpse39cf745.jpg.html)


http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/w552/chockey88/35_zps8aef9220.jpg (http://s1329.photobucket.com/user/chockey88/media/35_zps8aef9220.jpg.html)


http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/w552/chockey88/34_zps0ddc7839.jpg (http://s1329.photobucket.com/user/chockey88/media/34_zps0ddc7839.jpg.html)


http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/w552/chockey88/36_zpsae619b6f.jpg (http://s1329.photobucket.com/user/chockey88/media/36_zpsae619b6f.jpg.html)


http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/w552/chockey88/33_zps6dc2b81a.jpg (http://s1329.photobucket.com/user/chockey88/media/33_zps6dc2b81a.jpg.html)

[koolkollectibleskhai]

Yeah OK, the rear view still looks crappy, but hey, noone's going to display him from that direction, so it's all good for me! The overall look is just incredible, and it scales so well with MP-9 Rodimus! This looks infinitely better than Citizen Stack!!

[kurdt_the_goat]

I'm glad they painted the legs.. even if it does look a bit odd now in truck mode. It seems a bit lazy (or afterthought-ish) - when they could have just used a Transformation piece that works just like MP-10's shins to change the colour between modes.

[Paulbot]

ANyone with super photoshop skills able to do up a magnus in daiclone colours?

I was going to give this a go, like I did with the original grey prototype (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?p=411148), but someone's already done it (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-fan-art/983506-diaclone-color-mp-ultra-magnus.html).

[kup]

What's with the red bumper and rear of the cab?

[Paulbot]

What's with the red bumper and rear of the cab?

Bumper is for anime accuracy. The rear seems to be so he has a red back... I guess


Perhaps the Hasbro version might be more toy accurate. That's what they did w/ their MP Rodimus. ;)

Here's something I quickly made to compare the G1 cartoon model w/ the MP toy.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/comparisons/ultramagnus_mpstockcartooncompar_zps201bcf02.jpg

[Robzy]

Red bumper like the cartoon.

Looks great. Can't wait to get mine.

[Smint]

Im always in awe of the engineering that goes into every MP. UM looks amazing! :)

[Penetrator]

These scans make him so much more enticing...

So the cab folds out like a cardboard box. Interesting...



I was going to give this a go, like I did with the original grey prototype (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?p=411148), but someone's already done it (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-fan-art/983506-diaclone-color-mp-ultra-magnus.html).

woo.... doesnt look too bad! I'd like to see what premium or special edition of this toy will be released to go with YOTH Prime :D

[GoktimusPrime]

The red on the rear of the cab does look unsightly, but looking at the transformation in the cartoon where the colour just magically morphs from white to red, I think it's understandable. :o

Whoa, I didn't know that his face expression was changeable! According to the text caption below the photo of the open mouth, it's to recreate the scene from TFTM when Ultra Magnus is attempting to open the Matrix! So it's his expression as he's being terminated by the Sweeps -- ouch! :eek: Pretty morbid considering that the only time Magnus' mouth is gaping wide open like that during that scene is when he blows up! (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/4/4f/TFTM_UltraMagnus_dies.jpg) (prior to that, he just looks (http://rq87.flyingomelette.com/RQ/C/TFM/3/65.jpg) and (http://rq87.flyingomelette.com/RQ/C/TFM/3/66.jpg) sounds (http://rq87.flyingomelette.com/RQ/C/TFM/3/69.jpg) constipated (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs25/i/2009/245/d/3/Ultra_Magnus_with_Matrix_by_ZaksBlood13.jpg) :p) In the Marvel Comic adaptation, he has a similar expression at the moment when the Sweeps tear him apart! (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/6/6d/FinalBattle-drawnandquartered.jpg) :eek:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/mp_magnus_mouth_zps3656a6da.jpg

[Sinnertwin]

Morbid? They released an entire figure who was dead:p

[nexusnixx]

ohhhhhh.. this is getting more and more exciting... cannot wait for its release!

[griffin]

How weird is that? I never noticed the red bumper in the cartoon... and even had to look at my youtube link above, just to realise that it was indeed there all this time.
I guess it was a blindspot thanks to the toy not having one, so is hard to accept it on the MP toy.
If Hasbro release this toy, they'll probably give it toy colours of silver or white.

[Trent]

(prior to that, he just looks (http://rq87.flyingomelette.com/RQ/C/TFM/3/65.jpg) and (http://rq87.flyingomelette.com/RQ/C/TFM/3/66.jpg) sounds (http://rq87.flyingomelette.com/RQ/C/TFM/3/69.jpg) constipated (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs25/i/2009/245/d/3/Ultra_Magnus_with_Matrix_by_ZaksBlood13.jpg) :p)

"Open dammit! Open!! Prime, you said the matrix would light our darkest hour!"

Hehe :D

[kup]

How weird is that? I never noticed the red bumper in the cartoon... and even had to look at my youtube link above, just to realise that it was indeed there all this time.
I guess it was a blindspot thanks to the toy not having one, so is hard to accept it on the MP toy.
If Hasbro release this toy, they'll probably give it toy colours of silver or white.

I am having a hard time accepting it myself. The truck mode looks hideous with the reds.

[1orion2many]

Looks good so far, I'll wait and see how it is in hand though. I don't have a problem with the red bumper, Chrome might have been a better choice but it all depends what you are after(Cartoon vs toy). It doesn't really detract from the figure:)

[GoktimusPrime]

Takara(TOMY)'s MPs are typically about cartoon-likeness, so I can totally understand the need for the red bumper. Hasbro has been known to go for toy-likeness (e.g. Rodimus, Soundwave), so they might do the chrome bumper. I find it harder to predict what Hasbro will do.

[Bartrim]

(prior to that, he just looks (http://rq87.flyingomelette.com/RQ/C/TFM/3/65.jpg) and (http://rq87.flyingomelette.com/RQ/C/TFM/3/66.jpg) sounds (http://rq87.flyingomelette.com/RQ/C/TFM/3/69.jpg) constipated (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs25/i/2009/245/d/3/Ultra_Magnus_with_Matrix_by_ZaksBlood13.jpg) :p)


"Open dammit! Open!! Prime, you said the matrix would light our darkest hour!"

Hehe :D

Really is this the place for that kind of humour?... Thought we were a little bit more mature then that...

...

Yeah right! Carry on :D

Anyway back to the figure. I'm glad I preordered this one. I don't have a lot of MPs but this will be an awesome addition to the collection.

[Penetrator]

Takara(TOMY)'s MPs are typically about cartoon-likeness, so I can totally understand the need for the red bumper. Hasbro has been known to go for toy-likeness (e.g. Rodimus, Soundwave), so they might do the chrome bumper. I find it harder to predict what Hasbro will do.

I thought its the other way around…? Mp10 is g1 toy colours and hasbro is animation coloursv

[CBratron]

Takara MP Soundwave was the one with the red visor.

[GoktimusPrime]

I thought its the other way around…? Mp10 is g1 toy colours and hasbro is animation coloursv
TakTOM's MP10 looks more like both the G1 toy and cartoon, but the blue eyes are definitely modelled after the cartoon as the original toy has yellow eyes. Hasbro's MP10's lighter colours look more similar to the G1 comics ('cept for the toy & comic-inaccurate blue eyes), but I suspect that that's just a coincidence... my guess is that Hasbro may have chose the brighter colours to make the toy more eye-catching on shelves. We know that's the reason why they have really huge packaging (Hasbro's MP Prowl is a classic example of this ;)).

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/mp_convoy_g1_compar_zpsd5069c93.jpg

I own the Hasbro version and I've seen the TakaraTOMY version for myself IRL, and IMHO the TakaraTOMY version hands down looks better than the Hasbro version. Mind you, at full RRP it's approx. $100 dearer than Hasbro's version too. ;)

[Bidoofdude]

I love the back detail they did. I completely forgot about it and it looks great.

[Holdobot]

From these new pics of Ultra Magnus from the expo it looks as if they may have gone with the chrome bumper after all. Which is nice.

By the looks of the official pics with transformation shots, I think the chrome is the fuel tanks. The bumper appears to be half way up the butt flap.

[Sinnertwin]

The bumper appears to be half way up the butt flap.

Heh heh heh :D

[FAPOS]

Wheres the cheapest place to buy/preorder this?

Ive held off... wasn't sure I wanted it... but who am I kidding?!

[Nevac]

I own the Hasbro version and I've seen the TakaraTOMY version for myself IRL, and IMHO the TakaraTOMY version hands down looks better than the Hasbro version. Mind you, at full RRP it's approx. $100 dearer than Hasbro's version too. ;)

I still think the Hasbro one has better eyes and Takara also forgot to paint his horns on his chest whereas the Hasbro one did and that's show accurate.

[CBratron]

I thought its the other way around…? Mp10 is g1 toy colours and hasbro is animation coloursv

Don't worry about it. It's a common misconception. Hasbro's brighter, cartoonier colours may seem more reminiscent of G1 but that's quickly dispelled when an actual comparison is done.

[Lint]

Man the transformation of this guy from the magazine has sold me. Pre-ordered!

Pity about the butt-flap though.

[GoktimusPrime]

Pity about the butt-flap though.
You might say it's a bummer. :p

[CoRDS]

You might say it's a bummer. :p

i like it. looks like samurai armor

[Lint]

You might say it's a bummer. :p

Badum-tish! :D

[Deonasis]

Optimus Prime: [on the playback] I want you to make a special run to Autobot City on Earth.
Ironhide: Butt Primeh?
Optimus Prime: Listen Ironhide, don't call him that.

[Lint]

Optimus Prime: [on the playback] I want you to make a special run to Autobot City on Earth.
Ironhide: Butt Primeh?
Optimus Prime: Listen Ironhide, don't call him that.

Ha! :D

[Tober]

Optimus Prime: [on the playback] I want you to make a special run to Autobot City on Earth.
Ironhide: Butt Primeh?
Optimus Prime: Listen Ironhide, don't call him that.

Nice. :)

[griffin]

I got the second volume of the 2014 Generations book, and it features Ultra Magnus (MP and past toy versions), and it was the first time I actually saw that the cab does actually detach from the trailer.
Not that it has really done that in the cartoon or comic... but it might be a nice feature when playing in vehicle mode to pick up or drop off the trailer like Optimus does or the Gen1 Ultra Magnus toy. The only difference is that this cab doesn't transform into its own robot.

I just did a google search and someone did post up a scan (https://www.facebook.com/586853757993187/photos/a.699433066735255.1073742292.586853757993187/867529336592293/?type=3&theater) on facebook of the page I'm talking about.

[Jenko21]

Im goona need a bigger cabinet....

[FAPOS]

Okay so I think I should preorder now... anyone point me in the direction of the best price including shipping?

Was just going to go with RKingdom - though $66USD for standard shipping seems a bit steep (or does it)??

[Tober]

Okay so I think I should preorder now... anyone point me in the direction of the best price including shipping?

Was just going to go with RKingdom - though $66USD for standard shipping seems a bit steep (or does it)??

Given the current USD and JPY exchange rates, HLJ (http://www.hlj.com/product/TKT80320/Sci) might be a better deal. My order is with them at least.

[GoktimusPrime]

I've also preordered through HLJ. :)

[Sinnertwin]

I've also preordered through HLJ. :)

Ditto. It's where i order all of my MP's now

[drifand]

I am all over, hlj is a very good back up.
I like the way that they do not really raise the price suddenly like other stores.

[FAPOS]

Don't know why but last time I tried HLJ it wouldn't allow me... cant recall what it said exactly but was something along the line of 'preorder stopped' - I assumed they had orders for their entire allocation.

Just looked then and it was go, so I preordered away!

[drifand]

Don't know why but last time I tried HLJ it wouldn't allow me... cant recall what it said exactly but was something along the line of 'preorder stopped' - I assumed they had orders for their entire allocation.

Just looked then and it was go, so I preordered away!

It changes from time to time because some people cancel their order making available. Once they reach a limit, they will stop taking orders.

Now is to pray that the jp dollars remains this good when they ask for payment.

[Dinkydarth]

I seem to have missed the preorder boat.
anyone know where I can still preorder for a good price? preferably in yen?

[drifand]

[QUOTE=Dinkydarth;446903]I seem to have missed the preorder boat.
anyone know where I can still preorder for a good price? preferably in yen

Wait closer to date and keep looking at sites such as hlj or hobby search.
You should have pre ordered when it first started pre orders, not having a go here, just telling you is harder to buy them closer to release date.

[Ace]

Is the release date still set at 13/12/14 for this guy??

[kaiden]

Is the release date still set at 13/12/14 for this guy??

RK has it list as 27/12/14 - so im inclined to go with that.

[drifand]

I expect it to reach my place next year. Everything else santa little helper isn't going to promise you anything.

[Megatran]

Remember that shipping will occur during the peak Christmas & New Year period. So likely to take a little longer than usual. Having said that, I've received some items last year as per usual delivery times.

[GoktimusPrime]

Indeed. My MP Bluestreak and Smokescreen were sent off to me on 21/12/13 but didn't arrive until 3/1/14, so 13 days in total. It was the longest wait I ever had at the time... until MP Wheeljack went and slammed that out of the water with an excruciating 23 day wait! :rolleyes: But at least the peak holiday season gives us a reason as to why parcels may arrive a slower... I still have no idea why it took Wheeljack so damn long to reach me between the months of September and October. Guh. :rolleyes:

[Dinkydarth]

[QUOTE=Dinkydarth;446903]I seem to have missed the preorder boat.
anyone know where I can still preorder for a good price? preferably in yen

Wait closer to date and keep looking at sites such as hlj or hobby search.
You should have pre ordered when it first started pre orders, not having a go here, just telling you is harder to buy them closer to release date.

Was waiting for the sale of a few of my old stock to go through.... was going to pre order last week but hesitated! Arghh!

[Megatran]

[QUOTE=drifand;446977]

Was waiting for the sale of a few of my old stock to go through.... was going to pre order last week but hesitated! Arghh!
ToysRUs Oz will be stocking Masterpiece Ultra Magnus for $300 (or thereabouts). :o

[Smint]

$157 USD shipped from nippon yasan. Cant wait for him!

[Blastwave]

$157 USD shipped from nippon yasan. Cant wait for him!

Same here, going to be great! :D

[Dinkydarth]

Any guesses on how much hlj will charge for shipping for MP UM?

[Hursticon]

Any guesses on how much hlj will charge for shipping for MP UM?

As guesstimated here (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=17792&page=2), about $30.00USD for EMS - Possibly a little less. ;):)

[Dinkydarth]

HLJ have stock again! I've ordered mine!

[drifand]

Try not to delay on order, I have said this before.
The times where we can view a guy reviewing a toy before deciding to purchase almost no longer exist.

Hlj is always a good place to pre order and allow you to cancel if you decide it is not what you want, same goes for bbts.

Do not wait till is out of stock or you end up paying inflated prices or just suck in and wait for a rerun which might be a very long time.

Or buy it at $300 in oz

[kaiden]

https://twitter.com/TF_pr/status/544679595874582528

http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u528/L45TN7/1418700953_B48XNKjCIAAm3QR_zps5073253b.png

http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u528/L45TN7/1418700953_B48XMljCcAAn_VO_zpsadbdaee7.png

[Paulbot]

Seeing it side by side with the original, my interest goes down a bit. I think it's a good design and I do want to own it, but I'm going to wait and see what Hasbro does and if they match the blue colour more closely to the toy than to the movie.

https://31.media.tumblr.com/2c41aea7d29fce3eddfbe6edc46d8561/tumblr_n4l355oTII1qbguy1o3_r1_500.jpg

[millhouse]

Seeing it side by side with the original, my interest goes down a bit. I think it's a good design and I do want to own it, but I'm going to wait and see what Hasbro does and if they match the blue colour more closely to the toy than to the movie.

See, I'm in the exact opposite position as you.

And thus quite happy indeed! :P

[CoRDS]

See, I'm in the exact opposite position as you.

And thus quite happy indeed! :P

me too. i quite enjoy this darker blue. i always thought the light blue was a bit soft

[MayzaPrime]

I am happy to have a darker blue for the Takara version and the lighter blue for the Hasbro version, then I can justify getting both. :D

[Trent]

I am happy to have a darker blue for the Takara version and the lighter blue for the Hasbro version, then I can justify getting both. :D

This. It will be the first/only MP I will double dip on.

[millhouse]

I just really want MP-22 to get a Diaclone repaint.

As it is, I've got two of the Cybertron Satellite Mito Matrixes for the MP-22s when they come in. It'd be nice to have the MP-10 colour matrixes in the correct colour, but such is life!

[MayzaPrime]

This. It will be the first/only MP I will double dip on.

I have double dipped on way more than I should have

Sunstorm
Prowl
Grimlock
Streak
Sideswipe
Optimus MP 1 & 10
Thundercracker
Starscream
Soundwave

I have said it before I am a Masterpiece whore :p

[millhouse]

I have said it before I am a Masterpiece whore

You and me both mate. Anything from MP-10 onwards I've tried to snag two of, although I will be limiting myself to one of MP-22 and MP-23.

[MayzaPrime]

You and me both mate. Anything from MP-10 onwards I've tried to snag two of, although I will be limiting myself to one of MP-22 and MP-23.

Once you see that Hasbro version of MP-22 you will be all over it :p

Just like me... :D

If we get a Slicer repaint from Wheeljack/Exhaust I will be in heaven.

[millhouse]

Once you see that Hasbro version of MP-22 you will be all over it

I honestly don't think so! Happy for those who do if it arrives.

[DELTAprime]

I had two complaints about MP UM. 1; shoulder joints look like they could be weak. 2; the colour of the inner legs. Good to see the legs now have a couple of extra parts just to make the colour more accurate.

[GoktimusPrime]

I agree with Paulbot. If Hasbro USA are going to do their own version, it would make more sense to give it toy-accurate colours (including a toy-accurate chrome bumper) to distinguish it from the TakaraTOMY version. I personally like how Hasbro has done that with some of their MPs in the past; i.e. Starscream (whose Hasbro colours kick butt all over Takara's), Skywarp, Rodimus, Soundwave. I personally prefer TakaraTOMY's version, but I do agree that it would be better for Hasbro USA to give their version a more distinctive colour scheme. We know that TakaraTOMY always goes for cartoon-likeness, so Hasbro might as well go for toy-accuracy.

The only thing is, if they did do a toy-accurate MP Ultra Magnus, what colours should the eyes be? Yellow like on the box/tech specs art, or white like the G1 toy (i.e. inner robot head's colour)? I'd personally prefer yellow, as it would better offset the silver face. Also... Hasbro could arguably cost cut and give their MP Ultra Magnus a completely blue head, which is also legitimately toy-accurate (http://www.oafe.net/yo/art/tf_um9.jpg)! :D ;)

Btw, Hasbro are expecting to receive MP22 next month, which makes sense if TRU are expecting it in February.

[kaiden]

https://twitter.com/TF_pr/status/545021241610887168

http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u528/L45TN7/1418792336_m9NSIFC_zps21cb7bf7.jpg

http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u528/L45TN7/1418792336_37r9Bl8_zps77b2860b.jpg

http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u528/L45TN7/1418792336_Rvek5BF_zps413d86b1.jpg

[CoRDS]

OH MY

that looks really good/interesting

[DELTAprime]

Thanks for spoiling the transformation for me...

[Gofigure]

Clever wheel deception

I see what they did there ;)

[Bidoofdude]

Yay, he has a standing up truck monster mode! Just what I wanted.

[drifand]

I think I prefer the lighter blue but not a major deal here.

[Trent]

Thanks for spoiling the transformation for me...

Serious? If you're worried about that sort of stuff you should stay out of the MP threads.

[Megatran]

What other characters could this mould possibly be used for? Perhaps a diaclone repaint down the track?

[CBratron]

I like to think the transformers brand is doing well enough that they don't need to be looking for repaints in every mold.

But if a repaint is inevitable, I suspect there will be a Year of the Dog release.

[Penetrator]

I like to think the transformers brand is doing well enough that they don't need to be looking for repaints in every mold.

But if a repaint is inevitable, I suspect there will be a Year of the Dog release.

im actually hoping for one... of course it has to have a nice touch to it. clear plastic or gold chrome etc :p

[GoktimusPrime]

https://twitter.com/TF_pr/status/545021241610887168

http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u528/L45TN7/th_1418792336_m9NSIFC_zps21cb7bf7.jpg

http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u528/L45TN7/th_1418792336_37r9Bl8_zps77b2860b.jpg

http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u528/L45TN7/th_1418792336_Rvek5BF_zps413d86b1.jpg
Heh, it's great to see colour photos of parts of the transformation after hours of staring at the instructions' illustrations. :o Anyway, for anyone who might care, here are images from the instruction booklet pertaining to the pics above. ;) The third image shows a few more steps beyond what's seen in the photo, so anyone avoiding transformation spoilers may want to avoid scrolling beyond the second image.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/mp_magnus_instructions06c_zps55021f42.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/mp_magnus_instructions02_zpsba79e170.jpg

spoilers ahead

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http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/mp_magnus_instructions11_zpsce91d185.jpg

[DELTAprime]

Serious? If you're worried about that sort of stuff you should stay out of the MP threads.

No, you need to be considerate of others and let people know that the link includes spoilers and not just post something in plain view that could be considered a spoiler. At least Gok was nice enough to say spoilers ahead, the least you could do is follow his example.

[rodent]

Looks like a very simple transformation, nothing so far seems to scream out to me "wow that's insanely complex and quite ingenious" like other Masterpiece releases. The faux wheels in robot mode are a nice touch though :)

[AJ_Prime]

These leaked instruction images are getting me excited. I mean, more than I already was. :D:D

[ITZTRU]

No, you need to be considerate of others and let people know that the link includes spoilers and not just post something in plain view that could be considered a spoiler. At least Gok was nice enough to say spoilers ahead, the least you could do is follow his example.

Lol it wasn't Trent who "spoiled" it in the first place.

And I don't mean to put words in Gok's mouth but I'm thinking Gok put spoiler warnings because of your initial rant. If it wasn't for initial rant somehow I don't think Gok would have thought to put spoiler warnings for a transformation?

Although I could be wrong :rolleyes:

[Krayt]

Lift this, Lift that..... Surely some of those should be "Rotate".....

[GoktimusPrime]

Lift this, Lift that..... Surely some of those should be "Rotate".....
Here's the original Japanese version. 起こします means to lift or raise up, and 回転 means to rotate.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/mp_magnus_instructions11JPY_zpsb0e6c4ea.jpg

[Krayt]

Well looks like if I follow the English instructions I'm going to be breaking his foot off....

And anyway, you've translated 2 words, what's the whole last panel say about the calf?

[DELTAprime]

Has everyone stopped trying to figure out transformations when they get a toy in hand or something? I look forward to figuring it out when I get it in hand and not going to youtube or the manual till after I figure it out. It's far more satisfying to figure something out yourself than going off manuals or videos.

[Sinnertwin]

Has everyone stopped trying to figure out transformations when they get a toy in hand or something? I look forward to figuring it out when I get it in hand and not going to youtube or the manual till after I figure it out. It's far more satisfying to figure something out yourself than going off manuals or videos.

no, can't say i feel any extra sense of pride or self satisfaction when i figure out how to manipulate a mass-produced plastic toy without looking at the instructions. But... whatever floats your boat

[drifand]

I would have break something, I definitely follow instructions.
I would strongly suggest not to view post of the instructions if you feel that it is taking the fun out of what you are about to attempt transformation without a guide.

[GoktimusPrime]

Well looks like if I follow the English instructions I'm going to be breaking his foot off....

And anyway, you've translated 2 words, what's the whole last panel say about the calf?
The English version is the translation of what the Japanese version says. So if you think that saying "lift" is an inaccurate description then take that up with Takara Tomy, because that's what they've written in the original instructions. I merely translated it to English.

[kaiden]

sorry to DELTA if you feel the pics i linked are spoilers...

in future, i will mark everything as a spoiler.

[xlojnr]

The English version is the translation of what the Japanese version says. So if you think that saying "lift" is an inaccurate description then take that up with Takara Tomy, because that's what they've written in the original instructions. I merely translated it to English.

Gok - was the english translation of the instructions a part of your role in translating/adapting the bio book for UM?

[GoktimusPrime]

Gok - was the english translation of the instructions a part of your role in translating/adapting the bio book for UM?
Pretty much. :)

What I did was:
* Translated the instructions
* Re-wrote the bio. Original bio is written from a Japanese continuity POV, so I re-wrote it from a G1 Anglophone continuity POV (e.g. disregarding events from Scramble City etc.). I also made a reference to IDW Ultra Magnus.
* Translated/adapted the little blurbs (about his transformation, weapons, abilities etc.).
* Edited the "History of Ultra Magnus" page on the back cover. It's the same style as the "History of Soundwave" page on the back of MP Soundwave's booklet, but the original version is totally Takara-biased (understandably), so I changed it to make it Hasbro-biased. I removed some of the Takara-exclusive UMs and replaced them with some Hasbro-exclusive UMs. However, the draft of the booklet that I received did not include this edition. I did mention it to Hasbro AU, who agreed with my suggested changes and said that they would speak to Hasbro HK about it; but that's the last I heard of it. So I have no idea if Hasbro HK agreed with my changes here, or stuck with their version which is a straight up English translation of the Takara-biased Japanese source.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/mp_magnus_history_zps52e32ae7.jpg
L: From the original Japanese booklet, R: a rough MS Paint mock-up of what I've recommended for the Hasbro version.

One problem was that we had a VERY short time frame to complete this project. I was literally only given three days to do translate/adapt the booklet! :eek: And I was really sick on the 2nd day, and had to go to work on the 1st and 3rd days. In fact, I didn't start working on it until the evening of Day 1.

Hasbro gave me even less time with the next project, but that's a really simple toy/character, so luckily I was able to turn it around pretty quickly. They gave me about a week for the latest one I did (which I finished 2 days ago), so hopefully I did a better job on that one. But yeah, I'm spending hours of my spare time at nights and weekends doing this stuff, in between work and family commitments. :o

[griffin]

First of all, I'm like DeltaPrime, in that Transformers toys are designed as puzzles... so I always try to figure it out first before using instructions - because like a mystery book or movie, you only get one chance to work out the mystery for yourself, and only one chance to be surprised at the process and outcome.
This is why I don't pay much attention, or scrutinise images too keenly, in case it gives away something clever or hidden in the toy... so I will scroll past images that get too detailed, instead of looking at them, so that it doesn't "spoil" my one chance to enjoy the puzzle element of the toy.
Especially with the more expensive toys, as that is one of the cost/value elements of the toy to then evaluate if it was worth the expense (along with the elements of playability, sculpting, size, complexity/engineering, colours, etc).

Saying all that, people need to be aware that EVERYTHING in a News section posting should be treated or expected to be a spoiler, and only needs to be hidden if it relates to another item or element that isn't the subject of that news topic (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=7477).
Otherwise, we'll end up having everything hidden, and people being too afraid to post up news... which makes my job easier for not having to post up all news postings.

On this occasion, this was actually a topic (with title saying so) that was to reveal images of the toy before its release. So all images should be treated as potential spoilers, because even in just images of their two modes and close-up of parts & limbs, it will reveal things that might not have been known until you get the toy out of the box.

If it is a significantly different element that could be seen as spoiler-ish in a general news topic, it CAN be split off into new topics. (like having a separate movie news topic for movie plots and trailers)
Full transformations could be something deemed different enough, to spoil the more complex and expensive toys, but a poll will be posted (soon-ish) in the intro/info section to see what most members think.

I just don't want to go so far as to having all potential transformation spoilers be hidden or in separate topics, or as a link to the image... as most toy photos released before the toy comes out will usually give away transformations, particularly to the keen-eyed people.
We've already had a heap of Ultra Magnus photos that gives away elements of transformations, including links to hobby magazine scans that showed the entire transformation already.


The one good thing about images though, as opposed to text spoilers, is that once you scroll down to recognise a transformation sequence or a detailed enough image to make it easily known, you can scroll away or close the window instead of looking closely enough at the images to see enough detail to be a spoiler.

But a poll is worthwhile, and will be posted up later in the Intro/Info section.

[rodent]

One problem was that we had a VERY short time frame to complete this project. I was literally only given three days to do translate/adapt the booklet! :eek: And I was really sick on the 2nd day, and had to go to work on the 1st and 3rd days. In fact, I didn't start working on it until the evening of Day 1.

Hasbro gave me even less time with the next project, but that's a really simple toy/character, so luckily I was able to turn it around pretty quickly. They gave me about a week for the latest one I did (which I finished 2 days ago), so hopefully I did a better job on that one. But yeah, I'm spending hours of my spare time at nights and weekends doing this stuff, in between work and family commitments. :o

First of all, thanks for all your hard work!

Now I'm not sure whether you've just dropped some very interesting news, or if it's already common knowledge that you've been working on multiple projects with HasbroAU. But either way, colour me intrigued ;)

[Sinnertwin]

Griffin, just so i'm not misunderstanding, you're suggesting a poll to decide whether images etc of an item showing possible spoilers should have it's own thread?

[davieanix]

I always use instructions, especially with the Masterpiece line. Not because I don't think I couldn't figure it out myself, but more so because all it could take is a wrong pull or twist, and you may end up with a broken fig.

Really looking forward to Magnus!

[drahsrebu]

I'm with Delta, I like to work out the transformation by myself. I find it to be a fun and enjoyable exercise and i appreciate the figure more. I've had figures sit on the table for days while I try and figure them out.

[GoktimusPrime]

It's my own little OCD^idiosyncrasy to look at instructions before attempting to transform a toy, no matter how complex or simple. I even look at instructions for One Step Changers. :p


First of all, thanks for all your hard work!

Now I'm not sure whether you've just dropped some very interesting news, or if it's already common knowledge that you've been working on multiple projects with HasbroAU. But either way, colour me intrigued ;)
Cheers mate. :) I am allowed to say that I am working on stuff for Hasbro, I just cannot say what the specific thing is. ;)

[Bidoofdude]

I usually follow the instructions once and then do it a couple of times on my own to get the hang of it. Didn't work for Rattrap though, he's way too hard (not anymore, but it takes a while). I must handle my TFs a lot rougher than everyone else, because I had no problems transforming Generations Jetfire. Didn't feel at all like I was going to break it.

[griffin]

Griffin, just so i'm not misunderstanding, you're suggesting a poll to decide whether images etc of an item showing possible spoilers should have it's own thread?

Yes (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=19971).

If there is ever a significant demand for something here that is possible to do and within reason, I will try to do it if I can.
So it is up to the members to decide if that should be a policy here, and like with any democratic vote, whoever ends up in the minority will need to adapt to it.

(logically, the best course of action is one that puts out the least number of people - if posting up instructions irreversibly spoils something for some people, compared to posting instructions as a link or in a new News topic doing no significant damage to anyone, why reject the option that can make everyone happy if we find that it isn't too difficult to implement?)

[kaiden]

whats the best way to mark things as spoilers?



SPOILER!!!

STOP LOOKING NOW!!!

NOW!!!



https://twitter.com/TF_pr/status/545427471206580225

http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u528/L45TN7/1418895418_um1_zpsaaa7fc7d.jpg

http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u528/L45TN7/1418895418_um2_zps59b439d3.jpg

http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u528/L45TN7/1418895418_um3_zps6d3ddada.jpg

[Blastwave]

Look at all that diecast! :eek:

[ITZTRU]

whats the best way to mark things as spoilers?



SPOILER!!!

STOP LOOKING NOW!!!

NOW!!!



I actually lol'd.

[drifand]

If it bothers that much maybe have a section for preview toys spoilers.

I actually prefer to see what I be getting, rather than being concerned about the spoiling part. I guess everyone is different, but for me, the masterpiece line are normally a higher challenge and I wouldn't want to break anything.

[kaiden]

I actually lol'd.

:)


If it bothers that much maybe have a section for preview toys spoilers.

I actually prefer to see what I be getting, rather than being concerned about the spoiling part. I guess everyone is different, but for me, the masterpiece line are normally a higher challenge and I wouldn't want to break anything.

I am of the same mind - I really like looking at what techniques they've used to update G1 toys. I like reading the interviews discussing what challenges they had to overcome and how they arrived at the final product.

honestly after what happened with Rodimus, I felt so shitty/almost cheated that they did such a mediocre job that transforming/playing with Rodimus didn't even feel fun. An expensive puzzle that was trying to be too much than what it really was meant to be. hahaha how ironic, that the actual Rodimus always felt that way and always felt inferior to Optimus - the toys mirroring them...

even hasbro didn't bother with the trailer.

I don't mind marking the things I post as spoilers, but I didn't feel like I needed to as griffin mentioned they were appropriate to the thread title.

I do remember seeing in other forums, they have a function where every text/pic was hidden until you clicked on a button to reveal them. if i remember where, i'll link to it - but that would be preferable to make it easier.

[Sky Shadow]

Well looks like if I follow the English instructions I'm going to be breaking his foot off....


The English version is the translation of what the Japanese version says. So if you think that saying "lift" is an inaccurate description then take that up with Takara Tomy, because that's what they've written in the original instructions. I merely translated it to English.


http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/mp_magnus_instructions11_zpsce91d185.jpg


Here's the original Japanese version. 起こします means to lift or raise up, and 回転 means to rotate.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/mp_magnus_instructions11JPY_zpsb0e6c4ea.jpg

Krayt is right. You changed the 5th instruction from 90 degrees to 180 degrees. 90 degrees was correct, 180 isn't. And will probably break off his foot.

[ITZTRU]

Oh my. Nice pick up there sky shadow. Well...at least we know who to point the finger at and ask for refunds from when Masterpiece Ultra Magni end up with broken feet all over the country! ;)

[VERT]

Oh Crap. Is it to late to contact Hasbro about the mistake?

[kaiden]

Hah that's amusing, I hope Gok gets that corrected before it goes to print

[griffin]

The instructions went to print in the second week of October... so long past a correction I'm afraid.

Hopefully someone at Hasbro was double-checking, but I was told that the instructions section was already translated (because it didn't need a fan to translate) so wasn't part of the project.
From what I was told, they only wanted the bio section written up in English because that was something the people in the office couldn't do, so had asked for a long-term fan to do it for them.

If that is true, then it was a Hasbro employee who is responsible for the error.

[drifand]

They should have let gok play with the toy and translate it as what seems correct. There have been several times I have read Japanese instructions and they seemed awkward.

Afraid it be printed by now but most of us have the import version

[Sky Shadow]

I was told that the instructions section was already translated... If that is true, then it was a Hasbro employee who is responsible for the error.

Goktimus says he translated them.


I merely translated it to English.

[griffin]

Goktimus says he translated them.

Yep, I saw him say that, but I was told the opposite by the Hasbro manager who asked for a fan to write the character bio (telling me that it wasn't necessary to translate anything or write the instructions - they just had to know enough about the character to submit a bio within 2 days).

[drifand]

Wonder if they even want to correct it at this point as may cost them money to redo.

[kaiden]

Wonder if they even want to correct it at this point as may cost them money to redo.

they could just put a sticker over it.

[GoktimusPrime]

Krayt is right. You changed the 5th instruction from 90 degrees to 180 degrees. 90 degrees was correct, 180 isn't. And will probably break off his foot.
Crap. I hadn't noticed that.

However, as I said before...

One problem was that we had a VERY short time frame to complete this project. I was literally only given three days to do translate/adapt the booklet! :eek: And I was really sick on the 2nd day, and had to go to work on the 1st and 3rd days. In fact, I didn't start working on it until the evening of Day 1.
...so be aware that this work was done in a hurry, and while I was unwell. :(
Considering that this toy is going to be released in the Asian markets in 8 days' time, it'd be too late for Hasbro to do anything. Perhaps we could spread the word among the fandom? I can make a simple explanatory graphic that people can copy and share.

Hopefully someone at Hasbro was double checking, otherwise I hope that people can look at the illustration and deduce the correct transformation for themselves. :o Hasbro (Hong Kong) did initially attempt to translate the entire booklet themselves, but when Hasbro AU saw it, they realised that the English was just bad... as if they'd just run it through Google Translate. Here's a comparison:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/mp_magnus_translationcompar_zpsb001b858.jpg
L-R: Original TakTOM, my translation, Hasbro's initial translation

And that was one of the better parts of Hasbro's translation. They had all sorts of other gems like this one...
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/mp_magnus_deformation_zpsf3d9f314.jpg

Be aware that I am not a professional translator and I was working on my own (even when I used to fansub anime, I was working as part of a team!). And as I said, I had a very limited amount of time to do it, and I was sick (on top of my day-job and family commitments)! I would love to show my latest translation job to someone else to proof-check, but that would mean violating the non-disclosure statement that I have with Hasbro. :( Perhaps as soon as news of that toy is released, someone might volunteer to proof-read and I can send them a copy of my translation/adaptation... but it might still be too late by then. Hopefully there aren't any major errors in the latest one.

[kurdt_the_goat]

Oh well, it's not the end of the world!

Now that one of us has had first hand experience, perhaps we'll all be a little more sympathetic of Hasbro & Takara Tomy when instructions are poor or have errors in the future - everyone makes mistakes!

[GoktimusPrime]

Thank you for your understanding, kurdt_the_goat. :)
In any case, I've made this corrective graphic here. Please feel free to share it on social media etc. and help get the word out.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/mp_magnus_correction_zps8346d419.jpg

[Sky Shadow]

Hasbro (Hong Kong) did initially attempt to translate the entire booklet themselves, but when Hasbro AU saw it, they realised that the English was just bad... as if they'd just run it through Google Translate. Here's a comparison:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/mp_magnus_translationcompar_zpsb001b858.jpg
L-R: Original TakTOM, my translation, Hasbro's initial translation

I assumed that would have been the case. Ultimately I've been thinking it's one of those amazing coincidences - you're a bilingual Japanese teacher whose Transformer role model (favourite character?) is Ultra Magnus - what are the chances that they'd get you (and vice versa) for this project. (Yes, you're the obvious choice for Griffin to recommend, but it does seem like a lot of stars aligned.) As long as the person transforming the toy looks at the picture and assumes they have to stop there rather than continuing through the full 180 degrees, hopefully it shouldn't be a big problem.

[Megatran]

Pfff. No big deal. I would be concerned & a little pee'd off if the actual toy had major QC issues.

Don't get too beat up Gok. What a great experience. Many of us wouldn't have this opportunity in our lifetime. ;)

[GoktimusPrime]

I assumed that would have been the case. Ultimately I've been thinking it's one of those amazing coincidences - you're a bilingual Japanese teacher whose Transformer role model (favourite character?) is Ultra Magnus - what are the chances that they'd get you (and vice versa) for this project. (Yes, you're the obvious choice for Griffin to recommend, but it does seem like a lot of stars aligned.)
:) I couldn't believe my luck. :)

As long as the person transforming the toy looks at the picture and assumes they have to stop there rather than continuing through the full 180 degrees, hopefully it shouldn't be a big problem.
It may also be the case that the lower legs simply cannot rotate beyond 90 degrees, much like on G1 Ultra Magnus. <shrugs>

Pfff. No big deal. I would be concerned & a little pee'd off if the actual toy had major QC issues.

Don't get too beat up Gok. What a great experience. Many of us wouldn't have this opportunity in our lifetime. ;)
Thanks, dude. :cool:

[Sinnertwin]

Have you considered getting in touch with TrU themselves, Goki?
if you were to send the correction out to them, i don't see why they couldn't email it to the stores to use as an attachment, or have printed copies at the registers to hand out to purchasing customers, or some other form of notice to inform the customers

[Trent]

I wouldn't worry about it Gok. It's not like You have ruined Hasbro's perfect track record with instruction accuracy. Was it Hasbro MP Thundercracker that had the MP-03 instructions even though the mould was MP-11? And the world continued to spin :)

You did a great job given the circumstances. Anyone with half a brain is going to see how to do it properly.

[kaiden]

SPOILER!

BOXART/COIN SPOILER!

LOOK AWAY NOW!




http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u528/L45TN7/MP_Magnus_Box_1418997651_zps0c944c52.jpg

http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u528/L45TN7/MP_Magnus_Box_2_1418997651_zpsb7e81c4c.jpg

http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u528/L45TN7/MP_Magnus_Box_Coin_1418997651_zps2812774c.jpg

http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u528/L45TN7/MP_Magnus_Box_Coin_2_1418997651_zps663d19cb.jpg

http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u528/L45TN7/MP_Magnus_Box_Coin_3_1418997651_zps56990e2a.jpg

SUPER SPOILER!

The coin doesn't open...

[Ultra Mackness]

They look amazing, my impatience levels just went through the roof! I want this guy now!

[Smint]

lol@spoilers.

Hes beastly, hes going to tower over bumblebee.

[WeallscreamforStarscream]

not sure if mentioned before.. but is he MP-1 big? Looks awesome and can't wait!!

[kaiden]

not sure if mentioned before.. but is he MP-1 big? Looks awesome and can't wait!!

From looking at Google images UM looks to be the same size as MP-01

[drifand]

I say just do what you can but don't worry too much. Afterall the arrows did show 90 degrees.

[drifand]

Nice!

If I were TT now, all my next release of cars will show Magnus instead of Optimus , cars rolling out from Magnus from rear box art.

[Gofigure]

I keep saying this and sorry once again....but we are in a golden age of collecting. This is just awesome and couldn't be more excited


SPOILER!

BOXART/COIN SPOILER!

LOOK AWAY NOW!




http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u528/L45TN7/MP_Magnus_Box_1418997651_zps0c944c52.jpg

http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u528/L45TN7/MP_Magnus_Box_2_1418997651_zpsb7e81c4c.jpg

http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u528/L45TN7/MP_Magnus_Box_Coin_1418997651_zps2812774c.jpg

http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u528/L45TN7/MP_Magnus_Box_Coin_2_1418997651_zps663d19cb.jpg

http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u528/L45TN7/MP_Magnus_Box_Coin_3_1418997651_zps56990e2a.jpg

SUPER SPOILER!

The coin doesn't open...

[Ace]

I find it interesting that it only mentions hasbro at the back of the coin? I thought this was a TT product and hasbro would be following at a later date?

[MayzaPrime]

I keep saying this and sorry once again....but we are in a golden age of collecting. This is just awesome and couldn't be more excited

I couldn't agree more.

[CoRDS]

I find it interesting that it only mentions hasbro at the back of the coin? I thought this was a TT product and hasbro would be following at a later date?

was the same with bumble bee. coin says hasbro everything else TT

[GoktimusPrime]

SUPER SPOILER!

The coin doesn't open...
I can't deal with that now :p

I find it interesting that it only mentions hasbro at the back of the coin? I thought this was a TT product and hasbro would be following at a later date?
The coins have always been a Hasbro HK thing afaik. Also, the Hasbro version of MP22 is being released on the same date as Takara Tomy's (27/12) in Hasbro HK's markets. Other Hasbro AP markets such as Australia will get it later (e.g. February for AU).

[griffin]

I find it interesting that it only mentions hasbro at the back of the coin? I thought this was a TT product and hasbro would be following at a later date?

Most Japanese (TakaraTomy) toys are released by Hasbro Hong Kong at the same time.

The Coins are an exclusive item by Hasbro HK to be released with their units of Japanese TFs in "Hasbro" countries, so wouldn't say TakaraTomy on them.

[kaiden]

There's a new newspost/thread at tfw that shows the complete transformation process of Ultra Magnus which actually takes away all the mystery/discovery of transforming UM.

I'm not going to link it cause its not my kinda thing, but be warned its out there in case your mind can't handle it.

[griffin]

There's a new newspost/thread at tfw that shows the complete transformation process of Ultra Magnus which actually takes away all the mystery/discovery of transforming UM.

I'm not going to link it cause its not my kinda thing, but be warned its out there in case your mind can't handle it.

Link here (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-masterpiece-47/mp-22-masterpiece-ultra-magnus-in-hand-transformation-pics-181722/), and scroll down if you want to look through about 30 photos that show off the details and transformation of the toy.


(can we let it go now about the spoiler issue - it's patronising of anyone who consider instructions as spoilers)

[kaiden]

(can we let it go now about the spoiler issue - it's patronising of anyone who consider instructions as spoilers)

I'm not sure what to make of this.. I was giving people a heads up that there was a news post that could potentially spoil their enjoyment of a new toy.

I'm sorry if people feel patronized but I thought they wanted spoiler warnings.

[xlojnr]

I'm not sure what to make of this.. I was giving people a heads up that there was a news post that could potentially spoil their enjoyment of a new toy.

I'm sorry if people feel patronized but I thought they wanted spoiler warnings.

I believe griffin means the way you made the statement.

for instance, your statement of
"I'm not going to link it cause its not my kinda thing, but be warned its out there in case your mind can't handle it."

could have ended at
"I'm not going to link it cause its not my kinda thing, but be warned its out there".

Which would have made your point and provided the warning without the added slight of "in case your mind can't handle it" - which is the part that can be interpreted as patronizing.

Also the over-the-top size of the spoiler warnings from other members may be misconstrued as demeaning - so I feel like the warning is not just directed at you.

[kaiden]

could have ended at
"I'm not going to link it cause its not my kinda thing, but be warned its out there".

that's not how i write.

if I wanted to be patronizing, I'd probably say something like tiny brains or insecure or something actually demeaning.

but its the internet and you can't hear the way something is said 'in my mind' so I can understand the way people have interpreted things I've said.

[drifand]

Hey it's Christmas , let's just chill and enjoy. :)

[Ace]

My bad, I'm not big on the collecting of the coins. I just assumed that because TT were releasing it, the coin was automatically associated with TT.

[ITZTRU]

Also the over-the-top size of the spoiler warnings from other members may be misconstrued as demeaning - so I feel like the warning is not just directed at you.

To be fair, over-the-top size spoiler warnings are not new here, there are many examples of them on this forum. And personally, I think it fills part of the screen enough without "accidentally" reading whatever spoilers are below the huge texts as eyes tend to wander unintentionally.

I think only now that the issue of spoilers might be having an affect on people has been brought up, some people might be taking the huge texts the wrong way...

[Gofigure]

Hey it's Christmas , let's just chill and enjoy. :)

Seconded.....and we get to play with G1 autobots this year that actually LOOK like the cartoon characters and box art!!!!! Woohooooooo

[griffin]

I'm not sure what to make of this.. I was giving people a heads up that there was a news post that could potentially spoil their enjoyment of a new toy.

I'm sorry if people feel patronized but I thought they wanted spoiler warnings.

Sorry if it looked like it was aimed just at you. My note was a general notice (spaced away from my reply to your post), to anyone who might want to go to the other extreme (like the over-sized writing). It just wasn't necessary to make an example of anyone or chase after people as it hadn't escalated yet.

Some people might be genuine and sincere with spoiler warnings. But others might be having some harmless fun or doing it intentionally to make a point... and those can be interpreted as being patronising to those people who came to me with a legitimate query.

Just keep doing things the way it used to be, was the result of the poll, so there shouldn't be any need to change behaviour, particularly to the other extreme if there wasn't a demand for it.

[drifand]

Hmm.. I have planned to display this guy on the back due to its size, Starsaber might be a bit challenging when the time comes. I might have to start displaying alt mode for some.

Overall I am pretty pleased with TT development on the mp line.
I can see they are trying their best not to make their figures unaffordable unlike some manufactures who will charge you an arm and leg.

Can't wait to hear what is the confirmation of the next mp.

[Sinnertwin]

Hmm.. I have planned to display this guy on the back due to its size, Starsaber might be a bit challenging when the time comes. I might have to start displaying alt mode for some.

Overall I am pretty pleased with TT development on the mp line.
I can see they are trying their best not to make their figures unaffordable unlike some manufactures who will charge you an arm and leg.

Can't wait to hear what is the confirmation of the next mp.

The latest rumour is a new Megatron based on some background artwork they've used on Legends Bombshell's instructions.

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-feedback/1012792-generations-legends-bombshell-2015-a-5.html

From post #43

[Nevac]

Already been debunked
http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/rumour-potential-transformers-masterpiece-megatron-and-cliffjumper-designs-t102690.php-sid=d9038321b7beaeae36eb52a4899d3a2b#p1631821

It appears to be a background image that they've previously used

[Sinnertwin]

i'm looking forward to the next rumour regarding Megatron. They're becoming much better as they progress

[Robzy]

I'd like to see a Galvatron soon too.

Magnus looks better all the time. can't wait.

[GoktimusPrime]

I'd like to see a Galvatron soon too.
Has anyone else been getting a 403 error when trying to access TakaraTOMY's online survey site (https://www.takaratomyfans.com/)? :confused: I'm mighty tempted to give them a call if others have having issues with this.

[drifand]

Has anyone else been getting a 403 error when trying to access TakaraTOMY's online survey site (https://www.takaratomyfans.com/)? :confused: I'm mighty tempted to give them a call if others have having issues with this.

Yup error.

I think it be easy for them to do the masterpiece insecticons the scaled megaton seems to be just a hope, would be happier with galvetron at this point.