It's Official - MP-36 is a new Megatron

[drifand]

I ordered a few hours after the listing and paid the extra $35 to become first in line, and I'm still worried. The page says no express shipping available but I paid the $35 to become first in queue. I hope they pick up on it. I'd email them but they don't respond.

lol, you paid for nothing. It was stated no express whatsoever, is by road.
I suggest you email their customer service now as they suppose to respond in 48 hours as they stated and if they don't you get back $20 credit anyway.

[danny-boy]

lol, you paid for nothing. It was stated no express whatsoever, is by road.
I suggest you email their customer service now as they suppose to respond in 48 hours as they stated and if they don't you get back $20 credit anyway.

Don't give a shit about express just want to be first in line. Do they respond to emails?

[danny-boy]

Email sent. Lets see where this goes.

[drifand]

Email sent. Lets see where this goes.

yup, hopefully they clarify for you or you wasted some cash there.

[drifand]

I see some people whinging about how the "long life" logo has actually disturbed the appearance of the box. lol Quite awkward actually and ugly imo.

[Initial_G]

I ordered a few hours after the listing and paid the extra $35 to become first in line, and I'm still worried. The page says no express shipping available but I paid the $35 to become first in queue. I hope they pick up on it. I'd email them but they don't respond.

The same happened to me, I originally got a reply that I would get a refund. It was with their finance dept or something and should take 5-10 days ... 4 months later nothing .... will try out the new customer service team about it and see what happens >_>

[Ralph Wiggum]

Has the final box concept actually been officially released though? I know there's one image floating around and that was released back in December using other images...could easily have been a photochop job.

Either way, first world problems.

[philby]

Has the final box concept actually been officially released though? I know there's one image floating around and that was released back in December using other images...could easily have been a photochop job.

Either way, first world problems.

There are photos of the boxes on shelves in-store in Japan now on FB but I dont know how to get the link over on my phone.

[danny-boy]

The same happened to me, I originally got a reply that I would get a refund. It was with their finance dept or something and should take 5-10 days ... 4 months later nothing .... will try out the new customer service team about it and see what happens >_>

Wow that's pretty bad service. Honestly I don't want a refund. I'm more than happy to pay $35 just to be the first in line. A don't want to wait months and months for MP Megatron. Getting nervous.

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

There are photos of the boxes on shelves in-store in Japan now on FB but I dont know how to get the link over on my phone.

Here we go (https://www.facebook.com/Planetiacon.stfu/photos/a.193516854047596.45210.190726147660000/1334642336601703/?type=3&theater):

http://i.imgur.com/lH2YH82.jpg

[drifand]

Long Life design feels to me its more like they have outsourced someone else to make the box then actually looking like a award or anything. It looks out of place in the picture and would have been better if they placed on the rear, but heck its a box to me but I am sure it bugs a few people.

[bowspearer]

I see some people whinging about how the "long life" logo has actually disturbed the appearance of the box. lol Quite awkward actually and ugly imo.

If anything it should be replaced with a disclaimer that the stress from transforming the figure without breaking it might cause a nervous breakdown. :p

[danny-boy]

Haha, I prefer to make dioramas of vintage MISB Star Wars figures

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k234/jollyrob81/A0EA5783-3EDE-4395-AE34-B45FA523591C_zpsurxc2mrt.jpg

Why it's Luke, and Obi-wan, and my favourite Chewie! They're all here!

[griffin]

Ah, so the "Long Life Design" is an award, not a partner company. (I probably read about it way back when it happened... but I forgot)
Still, it's simple design spoils the look of the packaging... I think it should have been on the back of the box. If it had looked fancy or golden, it would have looked good on the front, and attract the attention of people... particularly those of us who don't even know about that being a notable award.

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

Why it's Luke, and Obi-wan, and my favourite Chewie! They're all here!

http://i.imgur.com/CcE7Rrh.gif

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

Follow-up video to the original review:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXUegrePg5I

[Paulbot]

Ah, so the "Long Life Design" is an award, not a partner company. (I probably read about it way back when it happened... but I forgot)

It was a news post you didn't post (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=23617), so maybe you did miss it ;)

[griffin]

Every time I read "Long Life Design", I get a craving for milk... :o

[doublespy]

I on the contrary feel they have every right to put the award in front of the packaging. I don't mind it even it was bigger. It's an award that recognizes outstanding design, industrial design being a big part of it. The designers earned the recognition by actual industry experts, and Takara Tomy should be proud to put it on their packaging. And all of the MISB collectors who care about their packaging should be proud that there's something there to show off how great your hobby has become.

[drifand]

I don't kinda understand how you get an award without public even touching and agreeing it though? If this was a reissue, yes I get that

[aching878]

It's not award for a particular release/bot , it's for overall TF MP line

https://www.g-mark.org/activity/2016/longlife.html?locale=en

[drifand]

It's not award for a particular release/bot , it's for overall TF MP line

https://www.g-mark.org/activity/2016/longlife.html?locale=en

Yup but I don't understand how it can be awarded without public opinion?

This must be done by a private panel?

[aching878]

Yup but I don't understand how it can be awarded without public opinion?

This must be done by a private panel?

Correct

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Design_Award_(Japan)

[doublespy]

It's like the Oscars. You don't get to vote and that's why it's much more appreciated by the actors, rather than say Teen Choice Award and all that jazz.

[drifand]

Correct

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Design_Award_(Japan)

Cheers for the link.

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

Comparison pic (https://www.facebook.com/DaimChocReports/photos/a.100410510309385.1073741828.100402350310201/431616417188791/?type=3&theater):

http://i.imgur.com/FPBKUYL.jpg?1

[kurdt_the_goat]

Sorry, where is the comparison you speak of? All i see is no comparison :D

[KaRNiV8L PRiME]

Robot Kingdom shipping notice :)

[Ark-Ivor]

I see some people whinging about how the "long life" logo has actually disturbed the appearance of the box. lol Quite awkward actually and ugly imo.

:confused: I don't think its the design of the logo or even the fact that it's on the front of the box that's irritating people, but rather the fact that its covering part of the picture of Megatron. 2 inches higher and it wouldn't be worth mentioning, if it irrtates you cover it with black tape, but where it is, you don't have that option.

[Deonasis]

Every time I read "Long Life Design", I get a craving for milk... :o

I like the irony of a Long life award on a gun box.

Of course, for self defence! and guns don't kill people! but really if you want a long life you better Han shot first.

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

Sorry, where is the comparison you speak of? All i see is no comparison :D

It's like comparing young Steven Seagal to old Steven Seagal...

http://i.imgur.com/QYyj04I.jpg

[GoktimusPrime]

I'd like to see comparison pics w/ MP5 and G1 Megatron.


It's like comparing young Steven Seagal to old Steven Seagal...
Or more like a comparison with a Steven Seagal impersonator (https://i.ytimg.com/vi/V-Kn-TzYeWU/maxresdefault.jpg). :p

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

I'd like to see comparison pics w/ MP5 and G1 Megatron.

Here we go (https://www.facebook.com/GenmonTCracker/photos/a.263171453875737.1073741859.263145237211692/638929466299932/?type=3&theater):

http://i.imgur.com/Kb0Lomo.jpg

[aching878]

I'd like to see comparison pics w/ MP5 and G1 Megatron.


Go check out Alfes2010 twitter account, loads of comparison with mp05 & G1 in both bot and alt mode

It's under the media tab https://twitter.com/alfes2010?lang=en

[GoktimusPrime]

Cheers, aching878. :) I've taken the liberty of compiling the comparison pics here:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/Masterpiece%20Megatron/mp_megatron_comparison01_zpsq2ngbsug.jpg

[Ralph Wiggum]

Ohmyprimus, where I ordered my Megatron from, says they'll get their stock in what appears to be their one and only batch next week.

Nice to be kept informed of these little things. My brother based in Singapore will pick it up for me, my dilemma is how to have it brought over here, by post or wait till god knows when till I go over for a holiday.

[Raider]

Some very interesting news from PC:

MP-36 - First Batch due mid april - no orange plugs on our stock or tampering due to import permit obtained

[drifand]

Question is how many ? Lol

[primetime]

:confused: I don't think its the design of the logo or even the fact that it's on the front of the box that's irritating people, but rather the fact that its covering part of the picture of Megatron. 2 inches higher and it wouldn't be worth mentioning, if it irrtates you cover it with black tape, but where it is, you don't have that option.

Yeah ugly as **** logo - put it anywhere else and make it real small so that it's inconspicuous. Where it is it makes MP-36 box looks like a cheap KO.

[Bladestorm]

My son got this for his birthday and I have to say I am really impressed with the look, feel and articulation. The faces also give Megs an extra dimension in terms of playability.
The MP figures seem to just get better and better.
This one looks like he jumped straight out of the G1 cartoon and will speak (with Frank Welkers Megatron voice) any minute. My son hasn't put him down since getting him which is always a good sign.

[drifand]

someone already posted breaking the barrel within the first week, so much for long life. :rolleyes:

[kurdt_the_goat]

The barrel is designed to rotate one way a short distance (to center it on the face of the gun). The pics of that break show the barrel contained in the extension suggesting the person is an idiot who tried to pull it off by random twisting and tugging.

[DELTAprime]

Seibertron has a letter from a TF reseller urging caution when using Megatron and even going as far as to say don't use the silencer at all plus they have a bunch of pictures of him in broken states.

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/warning-of-breakage-and-heavy-paint-chipping-on-mp-36-masterpiece-megatron/37710/

I will be not transforming him if he is shipped in robot mode and if he is shipped in gun mode I will transform him once.

[aching878]

Those pics are the same few that keeps circulating everywhere spinning people into a frenzy worrying about mass QC issues.

I think with all modern day TF toys the key is to take care when transforming, and check out one of the many vid reviews online as a few do it very well showing in detail on how some part needs more care and gotchas.

[1AZRAEL1]

Alot of fans man handle their toys. When it comes to MP, whilst I love to work out how to transform them myself, I watch videos. Last thing I want to do is break it

[drifand]

Alot of fans man handle their toys. When it comes to MP, whilst I love to work out how to transform them myself, I watch videos. Last thing I want to do is break it

I normally follow instructions and when stuck, youtube.
Seriously no point using the force trying to figure and break things.

[Ralph Wiggum]

Alot of fans man handle their toys. When it comes to MP, whilst I love to work out how to transform them myself, I watch videos. Last thing I want to do is break it

Yeah, some "simpler" bots like Sideswipe and the jets can handle a bit of stress but all iterations of Megatron I've had like MP5 and Appolyon have been complex with small parts. He will definitely be a careful instruction led toy for me to transform.

[DELTAprime]

A Transformer is 3 toys, a robot, a vehicle or other alt mode and a puzzle. If Takara are making toys that can be broken easily when trying to figure out the puzzle then they have failed.


I have not read instructions in about 5 years and I should not be forced to read them or watch Optibotimus transform it without breakage.

[BigTransformerTrev]

A Transformer is 3 toys, a robot, a vehicle or other alt mode and a puzzle. If Takara are making toys that can be broken easily when trying to figure out the puzzle then they have failed.

I have not read instructions in about 5 years and I should not be forced to read them or watch a douchebag like Optibotimus to transform it without breakage.

I agree with pretty much all of this but I don't think there is anything wrong with reading the instructions, especially if they give tips on how to use your $200 toy correctly

[TAAUBlaster]

Has anyone else received their MP Megatron from HLJ? I just got mine but it's been double taped. I'm assuming its factory double taped, but I wanted to check if anyone else who bought from HLJ had the same thing? Double tape doesn't really bother me if its from the factory (OT - but I've been getting double tape on all my MP's at least since Ironhde. Am I just unlucky, or is double tape the new norm?) but after all the confusion with the orange plugs, I got a bit worried I may have gotten an altered one. I bought this to keep sealed, so I don't want to open it in case it is unaltered. So thought I'd ask the question.

[GoktimusPrime]

I agree with pretty much all of this but I don't think there is anything wrong with reading the instructions, especially if they give tips on how to use your $200 toy correctly
^Agreed. Especially considering that MPs are explicitly designed for adults. It's the very reason why they come with instructions in the first place. I personally enjoy using instructions. I don't think it's anyone else's business if people want to use instructions or not and I don't think it's good form to make others feel bad just because they want to use them. But if you're stuck on a toy's transformation then I really don't see what's wrong with referring to the instructions. That's what it's for.

[christalcase]

Has anyone else received their MP Megatron from HLJ? I just got mine but it's been double taped. I'm assuming its factory double taped, but I wanted to check if anyone else who bought from HLJ had the same thing? Double tape doesn't really bother me if its from the factory (OT - but I've been getting double tape on all my MP's at least since Ironhde. Am I just unlucky, or is double tape the new norm?) but after all the confusion with the orange plugs, I got a bit worried I may have gotten an altered one. I bought this to keep sealed, so I don't want to open it in case it is unaltered. So thought I'd ask the question.

I got mine yesterday, and it is double taped on one side. It was unaltered when I opened it.

[TAAUBlaster]

I got mine yesterday, and it is double taped on one side. It was unaltered when I opened it.

Good to know, thanks :)

[doublespy]

I follow the instructions out of my respect for the designers. To me the TT instructions, especially the MP ones have been all around great. They convey the designer's intention on how they should be transformed and show every aspect of the design. And this is also why I feel that Hasbro's crappy instructions (and stock photos as well)are disrespectful to the TT designers' effort.

[rocca74]

Got my Megatron yesterday, have transformed to gun and back, and must say for someone to have broken him like the photos being circulated, they must have been using a fair bit of brute force

[Lord_Zed]

I don't know why people have an aversion to instructions, for small toys sure, but for high end stuff I always consult the instructions first. of course if the instructions are bad then we have a problem.

Hopefully these early reports of people having trouble, or breaking their toys are only a small percentage, and not a widespread thing. Whenever I see a reviewer or a fan say I will only transform the toy once, due to fragility, paint scraping, difficulty, etc then for me that toy is a failure as a transforming robot toy no matter how good it looks in one mode.

So hopefully this Megs is not like that, otherwise it's 3rd party all the way.

[Magnus]

I can understand the appeal of Transformers as puzzles, but I think it's best to follow instructions in order to minimise damage to the toy, particularly with expensive figures like MPs. It's not TakaraTOMY's fault if something breaks because you didn't follow the instructions.

When MP Cheetor first came out, there were people who thought that the legs were misassembled because the ankle joints and blue sections on the calves were in the wrong places - they likely didn't realise that there were steps in the transformation that involved turning the hip assembly 180 degrees and then swinging the legs around to orient them correctly for robot mode.

[rocca74]

I don't know why people have an aversion to instructions, for small toys sure, but for high end stuff I always consult the instructions first. of course if the instructions are bad then we have a problem.

Hopefully these early reports of people having trouble, or breaking their toys are only a small percentage, and not a widespread thing. Whenever I see a reviewer or a fan say I will only transform the toy once, due to fragility, paint scraping, difficulty, etc then for me that toy is a failure as a transforming robot toy no matter how good it looks in one mode.

So hopefully this Megs is not like that, otherwise it's 3rd party all the way.

I have now transformed Megatron twice to gun mode and back without a sign whatsoever with breakage. First time I used instructions and second time with memory but no brute force applied

[Raider]

I can understand the appeal of Transformers as puzzles...

That pretty much sums it up for me. I don't disparage anyone for using them. People are entitled to do what they want with their own toys. I just enjoy the thrill of trying to figure it out for myself, that is part of the fun.

[haydenite]

Just asking if anyone had purchased him from any of the stores like BBTS or TFSOURCE ??
Any issues with orange plugs ?

[crankcase76]

Is anyone doing a group order for this, as I would like to get this one.

[Ralph Wiggum]

Booked a ticket to Singapore to pick up my MP36 in person in June. Gonna live on the edge and see how he goes in carry-on baggage, as I don't need check-in baggage. Hope like hell Singapore airport security aren't going to have an issue with him.

[Ploughmans Lunch]

Booked a ticket to Singapore to pick up my MP36 in person in June. Gonna live on the edge and see how he goes in carry-on baggage, as I don't need check-in baggage. Hope like hell Singapore airport security aren't going to have an issue with him.

Wrap him up like a present.

[yoshi594]

Booked a ticket to Singapore to pick up my MP36 in person in June. Gonna live on the edge and see how he goes in carry-on baggage, as I don't need check-in baggage. Hope like hell Singapore airport security aren't going to have an issue with him.

boxed or not boxed? either way i don't think you'll get it through customs. I couldnt' even get g1 megs from sydney to perth via hand carry (the g1 reissue artbox version).

[Ploughmans Lunch]

boxed or not boxed? either way i don't think you'll get it through customs. I couldnt' even get g1 megs from sydney to perth via hand carry (the g1 reissue artbox version).

To be fair (and correct me if I'm wrong) that version is in gun-mode, and customs have these shape-scanning devices that'll pick up anything that looks like a gun.

They might not have bothered to get a scan of mp-36's robot mode by then (bigger fish to fry). That's why you should wrap it up as a present so the obvious box-mode "this is a gun toy" imagery isn't there for the eye to see.

Not that I'm advising that. No.

[yoshi594]

To be fair (and correct me if I'm wrong) that version is in gun-mode, and customs have these shape-scanning devices that'll pick up anything that looks like a gun.

They might not have bothered to get a scan of mp-36's robot mode by then (bigger fish to fry). That's why you should wrap it up as a present so the obvious box-mode "this is a gun toy" imagery isn't there for the eye to see.

Not that I'm advising that. No.

ah yeah you're right lol xD.

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs3.amazonaws.com%2Ftf.images%2Fre duced-galery_image_131_267.jpg&f=1


But yea i still wouldn't risk megs being in a hand carry as he's just too expensive to risk it. $350 shipped is the cheapest i can find atm. I got my g1 megs on my subsequent trip to perth via cargo.

[Ralph Wiggum]

boxed or not boxed? either way i don't think you'll get it through customs. I couldnt' even get g1 megs from sydney to perth via hand carry (the g1 reissue artbox version).

Yair it'll be boxed in robot form. Getting him in through Australian customs is easy...all I need is a B709 form like I previously did with MP5. What I'm unsure about is airport security in Singapore. When I got MP5 I put him through check-in baggage.

Vintage G1 boxed in gun mode was always going to raise a red flag. I'm hoping like hell Singapore security sees a robot on the x-ray scanners and not care. The funny thing is that in Singapore Megatron is definitely NOT deemed to be a imitation gun.

Edit: or I can be a good boy and pay for check-in baggage :rolleyes:

[GoktimusPrime]

Here's what I did when I brought my MP36 from Japan back to Australia:

I took my permit along with me as well as some photos of my safe storage on my phone. Photos of the lockable case, photo of my TF room door, close ups of the locks etc.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/Masterpiece%20Megatron/mp_megatron_permit_zpssy2dqne0.jpg
I discarded the box completely. Saves luggage space, and yeah, don't want any pictures of the toy in gun mode. I packed the tech specs card and instructions in the same plastic sleeve as my permit with any images of the gun mode facing inwards.
I then "mummified" Megatron with bubble-wrap, a pillow case and another soft bag, the surrounded it with folded up clothes inside the luggage. Here are photos of my "de-mummifying" Megatron after getting home, but basically reverse the steps to see how he was "mummified." ;)
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/Masterpiece%20Megatron/mp_megatron_bubblewarp_zps8t0l4ybm.jpg
I placed mummified-Megatron in the same luggage case as my permit. The permit was placed at the very bottom.
I placed the scope, silencer and stock in different pieces of luggage (as I was travelling with my family).

Basically I didn't want to announce that I was bringing this toy into the country, but I took my permit and photos of my safe storage along with me just in case that I would be pinged. Thankfully I wasn't, but if I had been then I would've showed them my permit and safe storage photos. Now of course, I live in NSW where the permit and safe storage compliance are legally required. As a WA resident you don't need any of these things, so my advice would be to print off a copy of this page (http://megatron.net.au/MC_Masterpiece_MP05_WA.htm) and keep it in the same piece of luggage as MP36.


Gonna live on the edge and see how he goes in carry-on baggage, as I don't need check-in baggage.
That is illegal.

http://travelsecure.infrastructure.gov.au/onboard/what-i-cannot-take-onboard.aspx
Prohibited items and weapons, including replicas or imitations, cannot be carried onboard. I don't think it's worth the risk of being arrested over a toy by carrying it onboard the aircraft. Just bring a small piece of luggage, chuck your clothes and wrapped up Megatron in there.

Hope for the best but prepare for the worst. The information and advice that I have given is based on Australian law. I recommend that you do your homework into what laws are required in Singapore. I would be surprised if any country's aviation authority or airline allowed passengers to bring an imitation firearm aboard in their carry-on luggage though.

[Ploughmans Lunch]

Just eat half of it as you get on the plane and just hope for the best. Customs can't bust you for only having half a MP-36 in your luggage (since the other half legally doesn't exist as it's digested food which isn't recognised by law) so you're safe. Just do that. Nothing will go wrong.

[drifand]

No not illegal, I am sure a friend of mine carried his fake samurai sword on board placed with cabin crew. It all depends on the airlines.

[Jazzman]

Just eat half of it as you get on the plane and just hope for the best.

Could always carry him on via the rear-end express... nah... let's not go there :D

[Ploughmans Lunch]

No not illegal, I am sure a friend of mine carried his fake samurai sword on board placed with cabin crew. It all depends on the airlines.

If the fake samurai sword turned into megatron it'd be illegal, though.


Could always carry him on via the rear-end express... nah... let's not go there :D

As a fully qualified butt lawyer I am very interested in the legalities of this. Discuss elsewhere, though.

[drifand]

If the fake samurai sword turned into megatron it'd be illegal, though.



As a fully qualified butt lawyer I am very interested in the legalities of this. Discuss elsewhere, though.

Sword would be considered illegal in the first place not sure what were you thinking?

In fact Japan airlines gave him a hard time despite he had documented papers saying it was a display piece whereas Qantas had no issues.

[Ralph Wiggum]

Maybe I should transform before I pack him. He'll break into a million pieces and won't pose any threat :rolleyes:

[Ploughmans Lunch]

Sword would be considered illegal in the first place not sure what were you thinking?

Sorry, I was kidding :)

[spiderken17]

Does anywhere still have this in stock?

[yoshi594]

Does anywhere still have this in stock?

yes but it'll be full price. ~350AUD shipped.

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=FIGURE-025030&page=top%2Fsearch%2Flist%3Fs_keywords%3Dmegatron%2 4pagemax%3D40%24getcnt%3D0%24pagecnt%3D1

[griffin]

You can pretty much guarantee a reissue, like MP5 had, due to its speed in selling out (and due to it having limited redeco potential).

It could be within a few months (like Movie The Best Voyager Optimus and Legends Arcee), or a few years later (like MP5).

[spiderken17]

I figured a reissue is in the cards at some point. I am considering my options as i have one on order from PC but who knows when/if it will turn up and if it does whether it shows up before the re-issue :)

[ampoldj]

You can pretty much guarantee a reissue, like MP5 had, due to its speed in selling out (and due to it having limited redeco potential).

It could be within a few months (like Movie The Best Voyager Optimus and Legends Arcee), or a few years later (like MP5).

Not to mention MP Shockwave and Ironhide but i have no idea if they got sold out quickly or Hasbro Asia just needs to bring out the exclusive items for more sales :rolleyes:

I saw anime export has one as well but i dont have 300 bucks atm

[bowspearer]

Cruel twist of fate: both of mine arrived last week (intended to be one sealed and one loose), but what I received was a sealed case of 2, which the sealed collector within me cannot bear the thought of opening.

Anyone know if the orange plugs on these are easily removable without damaging the figure:

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=TAK12431&mode=retail

[philby]

are you saying that you do not want to open the cardboard postage box that your boxed figures are in??


Cruel twist of fate: both of mine arrived last week (intended to be one sealed and one loose), but what I received was a sealed case of 2, which the sealed collector within me cannot bear the thought of opening.

Anyone know if the orange plugs on these are easily removable without damaging the figure:

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=TAK12431&mode=retail

[nsm034]

Cruel twist of fate: both of mine arrived last week (intended to be one sealed and one loose), but what I received was a sealed case of 2, which the sealed collector within me cannot bear the thought of opening.

Anyone know if the orange plugs on these are easily removable without damaging the figure:

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=TAK12431&mode=retail

Had the same issue with hasbro soundwave. lol

[danny-boy]

Cruel twist of fate: both of mine arrived last week (intended to be one sealed and one loose), but what I received was a sealed case of 2, which the sealed collector within me cannot bear the thought of opening.

Anyone know if the orange plugs on these are easily removable without damaging the figure:

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=TAK12431&mode=retail

I don't understand what you're saying. If you bought them from BBTS they're not sealed as they had to open them and install the orange plugs. They don't come from the factory like that.

[Trent]

I don't understand what you're saying. If you bought them from BBTS they're not sealed as they had to open them and install the orange plugs. They don't come from the factory like that.

Yep. By MISB collector mentality, they're not MISB. MIB at best ;)

[griffin]

My interpretation of the posting is that he ordered 2 from somewhere that didn't alter the toys (like a Japanese or HK online store), and if he is going to keep the master carton sealed, he is looking at the option of buying a third. Since BBTS is probably the last place to still (easily) buy one, they have the orange barrel plug... and he wants to know if the plug is easy to remove, before sending money off to them for one.

[ZoonMaster5000]

Cruel twist of fate: both of mine arrived last week (intended to be one sealed and one loose), but what I received was a sealed case of 2, which the sealed collector within me cannot bear the thought of opening.

Anyone know if the orange plugs on these are easily removable without damaging the figure:

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=TAK12431&mode=retail

I did see a video where he said it's easy to remove but it will take the paint off on the inside of the barrel. Pretty sure it was emgo's



I don't understand what you're saying. If you bought them from BBTS they're not sealed as they had to open them and install the orange plugs. They don't come from the factory like that.

But maybe bbts had the smarts too think that they are being shipped outside of the U.S so they don't need the plugs and just left them in the sealed takara box?

[DaptoDog]

My interpretation of the posting is that he ordered 2 from somewhere that didn't alter the toys (like a Japanese or HK online store), and if he is going to keep the master carton sealed, he is looking at the option of buying a third. Since BBTS is probably the last place to still (easily) buy one, they have the orange barrel plug... and he wants to know if the plug is easy to remove, before sending money off to them for one.

If this is the correct interpretation Bowspearer I suggest ordering from Ami Ami where it was still in stock last I checked and doesn't come with the plugs. Note that both of mine that arrived last week from them were double taped but I'm sure that will be the case wherever you order it from.

[Tober]

Amiami (http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=FIGURE-025030&page=top%2Fsearch%2Flist%3Fs_keywords%3Dmp-36%24pagemax%3D40%24getcnt%3D0%24pagecnt%3D1) and RobotKingdom still have stock, but no discount. I don't think either have orange plugs.

The plugs vary by distributor, but most come out with a little force and or a low-hear hair-dryer, and some are found rattling around in the plastic trays having fallen out in transit.



If this is the correct interpretation Bowspearer I suggest ordering from Ami Ami where it was still in stock last I checked and doesn't come with the plugs. Note that both of mine that arrived last week from them were double taped but I'm sure that will be the case wherever you order it from.

I think both of my orders from HLJ were single taped. Would have to check if you want.

[bowspearer]

Everyone seems a little confused. My MP-36s didn't come from BBTS, they came from HLJ, so yes, MISB and MISC - as in still factory sealed.

I was doing some looking around and BBTS seemed to still have stock hence my question. That said, I may have found an alternate Asian source to get a third one from.

[danny-boy]

Everyone seems a little confused. My MP-36s didn't come from BBTS, they came from HLJ, so yes, MISB and MISC - as in still factory sealed.

I was doing some looking around and BBTS seemed to still have stock hence my question. That said, I may have found an alternate Asian source to get a third one from.

But HLJ also opened and installed orange plugs.

[Tober]

But HLJ also opened and installed orange plugs.

Not for Australian orders. They retracted their initial decision after customer feedback.

Thanks Griffin and all. :)

[danny-boy]

Not for Australian orders. They retracted their initial decision after customer feedback.

Thanks Griffin and all. :)

Ah I see. That was good of them to do that.

[Robzy]

Has anyone got their Megatron from Premium Collectables yet?

[Sinnertwin]

Has anyone got their Megatron from Premium Collectables yet?

A few have. ~10 by my count.

[Robzy]

A few have. ~10 by my count. Thanks :) I'm still waiting to hear anything. I've written to them 3 times over the past month and they haven't responded once :(

[drifand]

Thanks :) I'm still waiting to hear anything. I've written to them 3 times over the past month and they haven't responded once :(

email again as they had advised ETA as per individual basis.

[Sinnertwin]

email again as they had advised ETA as per individual basis.

You really think they're going to be able to give a pinpoint accurate reply when they can't even answer basic questions & they're still a month behind?

[drifand]

You really think they're going to be able to give a pinpoint accurate reply when they can't even answer basic questions & they're still a month behind?

probably points at Early June to bugger you off for now.:rolleyes:

[aching878]

The news of mp-36 reissue (2nd run) coming in Q4 2017 looks to be legit, quite a few stores in HK has put up their listing and pretty sure more will follow.

good times for anyone still waiting to buy 1

[drifand]

The news of mp-36 reissue (2nd run) coming in Q4 2017 looks to be legit, quite a few stores in HK has put up their listing and pretty sure more will follow.

good times for anyone still waiting to buy 1

Looks at PC site for update in new change of ETA. < very likely though even if they going to be honest.

[Darkness]

Mp36 reissue #pcanewhope

[Jellico]

Let us know where you see it and how much. Someone is going to get swamped by Aussie buyers.

[Tober]

Maybe not...

http://tfs-express.com/masterpiece/-691-transformers-masterpiece-mp-36-megatron.html

A version 2 reissue for later this year does seem to be correct.

Tokyo Toy Show is next week, wait and see.

[griffin]

Please keep the PC commentary in the appropriate topics.
We already have enough of their topics here, we don't need to see it contaminating other topics, and be a point of constant ridicule in the faces of those who are still satisfied or waiting customers and don't like seeing it everywhere else.

[Tober]

Pre-orders are up at The Little Toy Company (https://www.thelittletoycompany.com.au/transformers-preorders/transformers-takara-mp-36-masterpiece-megatron-restock-pre-order) - Melbourne based. Full deposit.

Good luck to those taking the plunge!

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

Maybe not...

http://tfs-express.com/masterpiece/-691-transformers-masterpiece-mp-36-megatron.html

A version 2 reissue for later this year does seem to be correct.

Robot Kingdom's also reporting a Q4 restock (https://www.facebook.com/Robotkingdom/posts/1703203343041859):


Takara Transformers Masterpiece MP-36 Masterpiece Megatron with Exclusive coin.
Pre-order. Restock in 4th Quarter 2017
US$179.9
http://www.robotkingdom.com/tftrmp36re.html

[Tober]

Is the second run in December for Asia only, or Japan as well?

[griffin]

Is the second run in December for Asia only, or Japan as well?

It's on HLJ (https://hlj.com/product/tkt48439-2), so it's a Japanese release.

Ignore this post... :o

[DELTAprime]

It's on HLJ (https://hlj.com/product/tkt48439-2), so it's a Japanese release.

lol, Griff you got your reissues confused, this thread is Megatron not Black Convoy. So far Megatron looks Asia only not JP.

[griffin]

Ooops...
I had a couple of windows open at once while looking at the upcoming MP releases, and must have gotten confused... not sure how that happened though. :(

[bowspearer]

HLJ reissue confirmed: https://hlj.com/product/TKT87511-R

[DELTAprime]

HLJ reissue confirmed: https://hlj.com/product/TKT87511-R

Oh damn, and I jumped the gun and ordered from RK at higher cost...:rolleyes:

[Tober]

Oh damn, and I jumped the gun and ordered from RK at higher cost...:rolleyes:

Dang! I emailed them a few days ago asking if they could stock it, or if it was an Asia exclusive. They replied yesterday saying they were looking into it and would get back to me... :rolleyes:

[spiderken17]

What is postage like from them? The price is good.

[Firestorm]

Sorry to ask an undoubtedly frequently answered question,
But I don't really want to sift through 60-something pages of posts looking for an answer.

I know theres issues with masterpiece Megatrons for the fact they turn into replica guns.

I had initially ignored this release because it didn't really catch my interest, but I'm considering placing a pre-order for the re-issue.

So is there anything I need to do to make it ok for me to get it? or is the orange cap HLJ says they'll put on it the solution?

[Trent]

Sorry to ask an undoubtedly frequently answered question,
But I don't really want to sift through 60-something pages of posts looking for an answer.

I know theres issues with masterpiece Megatrons for the fact they turn into replica guns.

I had initially ignored this release because it didn't really catch my interest, but I'm considering placing a pre-order for the re-issue.

So is there anything I need to do to make it ok for me to get it? or is the orange cap HLJ says they'll put on it the solution?

Orange cap means jack in Australia.

However, I have yet to hear of a single person having issues with importing MP-36 into the country. Take that as you will.

[hYpNoS]

Orange cap means jack in Australia.

However, I have yet to hear of a single person having issues with importing MP-36 into the country. Take that as you will.

Anyone here a member of that fb transformers group?

We need to ask the community there, none of us have reported anything, I mean this is almost TOO good to be true

[Borgeman]

In all the groups/forums I'm in, there have been zero reported cases of MP-36 seizure.

Customs have their eyes focused on something else, or rather got tipped off/got lucky with mp-5 a decade ago

[DELTAprime]

or is the orange cap HLJ says they'll put on it the solution?

They only put caps in their US orders. They were going to put caps in their Australian orders also until a bunch of angry customers pointed out to them that they do nothing to make them legal and the only way to make them legal is follow your states importation and ownership laws. Fortunately for you you're in Victoria, follow Griff's instructions in the first post in the gunformers thread and you will be OK. NSW is the only state that has strict laws, everyone else is fairly cool with them as long as you don't do anything stupid and get the appropriate letters from the police.

[ZoonMaster5000]

I imported one only two weeks ago with no cap, sailed straight through customs and onto my shelf. They (customs) just aren't interested in this version of megatron in my opinion.

[hYpNoS]

They only put caps in their US orders. They were going to put caps in their Australian orders also until a bunch of angry customers pointed out to them that they do nothing to make them legal and the only way to make them legal is follow your states importation and ownership laws. Fortunately for you you're in Victoria, follow Griff's instructions in the first post in the gunformers thread and you will be OK. NSW is the only state that has strict laws, everyone else is fairly cool with them as long as you don't do anything stupid and get the appropriate letters from the police.

Its also VERY expensive to own him in vic as you need to renew him every 3 years (that and you need a referee, and not just any one either from what I read), didn't nsw have the megatron club?

[Sinnertwin]

Anyone here a member of that fb transformers group?

We need to ask the community there, none of us have reported anything, I mean this is almost TOO good to be true

TCCA? Not a single seizure reported that I'm aware of.

[DELTAprime]

Its also VERY expensive to own him in vic as you need to renew him every 3 years (that and you need a referee, and not just any one either from what I read), didn't nsw have the megatron club?

$178.70 for 3 years, and no laws about requiring locks, bars, gun cases, etc. that's not expensive really. Grant it that's not as good as Queensland where it's completely free up here, but it's still not bad. Also I don't see anything about a referee needed, just need to get that letter from the police for $178.70.

[Borgeman]

$178.70 for 3 years, and no laws about requiring locks, bars, gun cases, etc. that's not expensive really. Grant it that's not as good as Queensland where it's completely free up here, but it's still not bad. Also I don't see anything about a referee needed, just need to get that letter from the police for $178.70.

Hahaha you're joking right? In Victoria, Megatrons are treated exactly the same as imitation firearms, regardless of whether you get the commissioner's exemption or not. That includes being a gun club member, and the rigorous application and storage requirements. Here's a snip of the page detailing storage from our application form:
http://i.imgur.com/9yzKBg3.png

The Chief Commissioner's Approval is a bit more lenient (you can have a glass door on the cabinet, but it states the glass must be a minimum 5mm thick) but I don't know of any collector who successfully applied for a CCA exemption. Basically in Victoria with the current laws, even if one obtains a permit/licence to own him legally, we cannot display Megatron in a manner acceptable for a collector.
In NSW the creation of the Megatron club basically bypassed most of this nonsense. They still need it in a locked cabinet but based off some examples posted here (an all glass cabinet/cube) the requirement for a "secure cabinet" are also very lax. (I haven't looked at the details since it came to fruition 10 years back so I'm going off a waning memory for that one)
http://imgur.com/a/156BS

[Trent]

Anyone here a member of that fb transformers group?

We need to ask the community there, none of us have reported anything, I mean this is almost TOO good to be true

My comment included TCCA. And believe me, if someone there had a Megs seized, the wailing and gnashing of teeth would be heard across the stars.

[DELTAprime]

Hahaha you're joking right? In Victoria, Megatrons are treated exactly the same as imitation firearms, regardless of whether you get the commissioner's exemption or not. That includes being a gun club member, and the rigorous application and storage requirements. Here's a snip of the page detailing storage from our application form:
http://i.imgur.com/9yzKBg3.png

The Chief Commissioner's Approval is a bit more lenient (you can have a glass door on the cabinet, but it states the glass must be a minimum 5mm thick) but I don't know of any collector who successfully applied for a CCA exemption. Basically in Victoria with the current laws, even if one obtains a permit/licence to own him legally, we cannot display Megatron in a manner acceptable for a collector.
In NSW the creation of the Megatron club basically bypassed most of this nonsense. They still need it in a locked cabinet but based off some examples posted here (an all glass cabinet/cube) the requirement for a "secure cabinet" are also very lax. (I haven't looked at the details since it came to fruition 10 years back so I'm going off a waning memory for that one)
http://imgur.com/a/156BS

Don't get angry at me you jerk. I'm just point out what Griff has posted as the proper procedure. If he has got it wrong harass him. Good thing I don't live in communist NSW or Victoria.

[Megatran]

Is that really necessary? Borgeman was just pointing out that there is more to it than a $180 piece of paper. No need for people to over react.

[Borgeman]

Don't get angry at me you jerk. I'm just point out what Griff has posted as the proper procedure. If he has got it wrong harass him. Good thing I don't live in communist NSW or Victoria.

Seems like you should be looking at yourself for the anger and overreaction. I'd hate to see what would happen if someone actually had a go at you. Crickey.

And if you actually read Griff's post on prohibited toys, you'd see that his information is current and accurate, and has links to the relevant police information as well. But I guess abusing someone was just easier.

GG no re

[drifand]

For those who want one of these, it is best to order now from HLJ, NY, and a lot of the Japanese online stores.

Apply your permit closer to release date as there is an expiry.

For permits please go to the firearms section in OCTA for better clarity.

I overall like this toys as robot form, but felt the gun mode fell short.

[griffin]

It would be best to familiarise themselves with the requirements and only worry about chasing up permits later, if the toy is seized. That saves the hassle or stress if it isn't even needed.

[bowspearer]

If the ACT is anything to go by, I suspect most Firearms Authorities in the States and Territories view the whole process as a waste of their time, as they know that they're putting resources into us which could be better used elsewhere.

[philby]

Just got shipping notification from HLJ for the re-issue 😊

[Ploughmans Lunch]

Forgive me f this was already discussed but have there been any reported incidents of mp36 being held at customs? Just curious

[griffin]

Forgive me f this was already discussed but have there been any reported incidents of mp36 being held at customs? Just curious

So far, this one seems to be ignored by customs. Maybe it wasn't close enough to looking like a gun for them to worry about, or they just didn't have any publicised criminal incidents involving Transformers guns to have them restricted or on their hit list anymore.

[ampoldj]

Just got shipping notification from HLJ for the re-issue 😊

Nice! ...and here i am waiting my funds from paypal so i can pay amiami. Still ended
Up at $250 posted. Oh well...

[Kranix]

I now finally have MP Megatron in hand from Amazon Japan after (like everyone else) not receiving him from PC. I have to say he is glorious! I can't stop looking at this MP. Amazing figure.

If I had have quit collecting MP like I was thinking after the PC debacle I really would have missed out. Yet strangely I can't muster the same passion for Sunstreaker, not sure why, hopefully that will come.

[danny-boy]

Got my 2nd copy of MP-36 Megatron from The Little Toy Company. Compared to my 1st run copy, this feels like a cheap KO. There’s dings and scratches everywhere. My original is flawless. The eyes are a dull red compared to the shiny red of the original Takara. The box is a different shade too. I’m pretty sure I’ve got a KO here. It’s got the unibrow though. Is it possible TLTC got a batch of KO’s and are selling them as original with or without their knowledge?

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

Got my 2nd copy of MP-36 Megatron from The Little Toy Company. Compared to my 1st run copy, this feels like a cheap KO. There’s dings and scratches everywhere. My original is flawless. The eyes are a dull red compared to the shiny red of the original Takara. The box is a different shade too. I’m pretty sure I’ve got a KO here. It’s got the unibrow though. Is it possible TLTC got a batch of KO’s and are selling them as original with or without their knowledge?

Info on the direct box copy KO can be found here:

http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=24901

In the past I would be worried about it being a KO, but TT have dropped their QC so much that even KOs have better quality these days (eg the Infinite Transformations and Toy House Factory KOs of MP-36).

[ampoldj]

anyone else got issues with the reissue? Mine wont be here until next week it seems :(

[danny-boy]

Info on the direct box copy KO can be found here:

http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=24901

In the past I would be worried about it being a KO, but TT have dropped their QC so much that even KOs have better quality these days (eg the Infinite Transformations and Toy House Factory KOs of MP-36).

Thanks. I watched bots and bits video. The unibrow is there. I don’t really care if KO’s are good or bad, I don’t want one in my collection.

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

Thanks. I watched bots and bits video. The unibrow is there. It doesn’t matter how good KO’s are, I don’t want one in my collection.

Don't base it just on the unibrow alone though, as I heard the KO fixed that. Check the box imagery, corrugations etc...

Of course you don't want a KO in your collection, i'm just saying that don't assume TT automatically equals high QC standards anymore.

[danny-boy]

Don't base it just on the unibrow alone though, as I heard the KO fixed that. Check the box imagery, corrugations etc...

Of course you don't want a KO in your collection, i'm just saying that don't assume TT automatically equals high QC standards anymore.

Im used to it. I’ve been getting shoddy QC since the early MP days. Nothing this bad though. This is like an obvious KO. Need to see more feedback from tltc thread. There could be a big issue here.

[philby]

I posted in the repair/fix forum. Mine has some scratches or chips as well. Two of the groin panels didn't get the speckled/sparkly finish. I got it from HLJ.

[drifand]

Pretty shameful for a toy over $250, I expect more care for it.

[bowspearer]

Has anyone gotten one of the second release which doesn't have the paint-related QC issues?

I have a sealed factory case of the first release and was looking to get one of the 2nd release to display loose, but now I'm a little concerned.

[Tober]

Has anyone gotten one of the second release which doesn't have the paint-related QC issues?

I have a sealed factory case of the first release and was looking to get one of the 2nd release to display loose, but now I'm a little concerned.

Where exactly are the areas of concern?

I have a second release from HLJ (first is in Perth) and had a quick look at the chest and helmet but couldn't see anything that worried me. A friend who I also ordered for didn't have any concerns either.

[Kranix]

I have a second release from Amazon Japan and I can't fault it.

[bowspearer]

Where exactly are the areas of concern?

A few people, both here and elsewhere have noted that there were paint chips and scuffing to the helmet and chest and that some of the groin plates haven't had metallic paint applied to them.

I wanted to make sure these were just cases of individual figures which slipped under the radar of the QC process, rather than issues which consistently affected the entire release.


I have a second release from HLJ (first is in Perth) and had a quick look at the chest and helmet but couldn't see anything that worried me. A friend who I also ordered for didn't have any concerns either.

Sounds like the head and chest issues aren't endemic to the whole release. What about the issue with metallic paint not being applied to all the groin plates?

[gamblor916]

Where exactly are the areas of concern?

I have a second release from HLJ (first is in Perth) and had a quick look at the chest and helmet but couldn't see anything that worried me. A friend who I also ordered for didn't have any concerns either.

Mine has a few small scratches in the chest and uneven paint application on the groin pieces. Nothing major though. I've fixed the groin and may touch up the scratches later.

[Thurmus]

Mine has a few small scratches in the chest and uneven paint application on the groin pieces. Nothing major though. I've fixed the groin and may touch up the scratches later.

At least there was not excessive scratching of the groin. :D

[bowspearer]

At least there was not excessive scratching of the groin. :D

https://i.imgur.com/6toYVRW.gif

[spiderken17]

So I ordered my MP36 re-issue from Hobbylink Japan as many here had plenty of success with them, I tracked my order and on their tracking report it says that it was in Australian Customs on the 9th of Feb and it has nothing after. It has now been nearly a month and I have yet to see it. Do I call Customs now? will they contact me or do they just confiscate it and I lose out?

[DELTAprime]

So I ordered my MP36 re-issue from Hobbylink Japan as many here had plenty of success with them, I tracked my order and on their tracking report it says that it was in Australian Customs on the 9th of Feb and it has nothing after. It has now been nearly a month and I have yet to see it. Do I call Customs now? will they contact me or do they just confiscate it and I lose out?

Head on over to the gunformers thread. http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=20265

There are instructions in there about what to do.

Anyway you should receive a letter from customs notifying you of the seizure and you then have a set amount of time to produce the B709A form and then they will give it to Australia Post to finally deliver it to you.

[spiderken17]

Head on over to the gunformers thread. http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=20265

There are instructions in there about what to do.

Anyway you should receive a letter from customs notifying you of the seizure and you then have a set amount of time to produce the B709A form and then they will give it to Australia Post to finally deliver it to you.

Thanks. I haven't received any letter from customs and its nearly been a month. Has anyone else had their MP36 stopped?

[Tober]

Thanks. I haven't received any letter from customs and its nearly been a month. Has anyone else had their MP36 stopped?

If it's been seized by customs, I think you are the first for MP-36.

Did you ship by EMS or SAL? Either way, I'd try contacting Aust Post first.

[spiderken17]

I think i posted by EMS. What is SAL? Good idea, i will contact Auspost today.

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

I think i posted by EMS. What is SAL? Good idea, i will contact Auspost today.

SAL is basically economy air mail:

http://www.post.japanpost.jp/int/service/dispatch/sal_en.html

According to HLJ, SAL "averages 10-30 business days".

Yeah, definitely contact AusPost, if the item has gone missing they'll require you to contact the sender who will need to start a missing item request on their side.

[spiderken17]

Thanks. I will contact them today.

[ZoonMaster5000]

Thanks. I will contact them today.

Also wouldn't hurt to contact hlj themselves and ems as auspost don't take the item till after it clears customs. It also states if customs haven't received any documentation for the release of the goods after 30 days it's deemed property of the state (or something like that) and listed to be destroyed:(.

[drifand]

Saying that, my permit expired and I have I applied for a renewal a second time. EMS gets checked very often, so no surprises if the MP-36 has been held by customs. I bought a IT Megatron, would be interesting to see if it gets seized.

[ChlorHex]

Saying that, my permit expired and I have I applied for a renewal a second time. EMS gets checked very often, so no surprises if the MP-36 has been held by customs. I bought a IT Megatron, would be interesting to see if it gets seized.

Why would you need a permit in WA?
I thought we're the only state that doesn't require one.

[drifand]

Why would you need a permit in WA?
I thought we're the only state that doesn't require one.

Nope, you need one, is free, I applied online. I had one for last year.
The main thing is Customs whether from NSW or VIC can hold and if you tell them You have the permit, they release it. Not fussed as long as I get the toy.

This doesn't mean you get caught etc.....is very random. People could buy and no issues without applying.

[spiderken17]

I have contacted HLJ and called Auspost and Customs. Haven't heard back from HLJ yet, Auspost said its at customs but customs said they are not holding it which i believe as i haven't received any notifications from them and its apparently been there since the 9th of Feb. I am calling Auspost when i get a chance and getting them to instigate an investigation. With my history with Auspost i would not be surprised if they have it somewhere.

[drifand]

I worry with Aust post, not sure about you guys but normally I just get an apology and even sometimes unresolved matters is like they sweep it under the carpet.

Hope it goes well for you.

[DELTAprime]

I have contacted HLJ and called Auspost and Customs. Haven't heard back from HLJ yet, Auspost said its at customs but customs said they are not holding it which i believe as i haven't received any notifications from them and its apparently been there since the 9th of Feb. I am calling Auspost when i get a chance and getting them to instigate an investigation. With my history with Auspost i would not be surprised if they have it somewhere.

A few years back around Xmas I (and the rest of Gladstone) had issues with Australia Post where an item would enter the country or start at a post office somewhere else in the country, never have it's tracking updated and then months later it would be delivered. The local DC was so understaffed Australia Post had months worth of parcels piling up and Australia Post just covered it up.

[griffin]

Why would you need a permit in WA?
I thought we're the only state that doesn't require one.

Importing is federal (needs permit)... owning one is state (no permit needed).

[spiderken17]

Ok so I have now heard back from HLJ and called Auspost again and have been assured that the item is still with Australian Customs, however no-one seems to know what is happening with it. The very helpful Auspost lady told me that she can definitely see it in her system at Customs which is what Japan Post has told HLJ.
Customs have yet to contact me which is strange however the Auspost lady informed me that that may be because they do not require anything from me at this point. Apparently the item may be getting assessed as to whether further action is required and that Customs will definitely contact me should they need anything.
She was quite sure that they would not just destroy it without contacting me which is a good thing at least (unless Auspost have lost the Customs contact letter)
I guess I now have to play the waiting game which blows because I had one of the first run on order with PC (we all know how that turned out) and then wait for a re-issue which now is delayed some more.
I am getting sick of waiting :(
Does anyone know any Aussie retailers who have a MP36 in stock still or have one they want to sell?:)

[griffin]

Contact your customs office.... don't play the waiting game expecting to hear from them or see your package, as they may have sent out a letter that didn't get delivered, and will destroy your package in 30 days if you don't ask for an extension (if you need to get a permit like I did for my gold Megatron).

[spiderken17]

Got my letter today from Aus Border Force that they have seized my MP36, I must be the only one it would seem. I don't know if I can be bothered going through the hassle of obtaining the permits and stuff. Might just chalk this one up to having a gamble and losing.

[griffin]

Got my letter today from Aus Border Force that they have seized my MP36, I must be the only one it would seem. I don't know if I can be bothered going through the hassle of obtaining the permits and stuff. Might just chalk this one up to having a gamble and losing.

Unfortunately with you being in NSW, you have the most hoops to jump through (and if you do want to go to the effort, just follow the directions in the "Permit (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=20265)" topic).
I wonder if they would allow you have someone else take ownership/possession of it, who has all of the storage and club requirements, and they just need to get the import permit (which is free and easy to do).
Obviously it would need to be someone you can trust, who isn't afraid of being prosecuted for transferring possession of a restricted item to someone who doesn't meet its legal requirements.
(as such, I can't publicly condone doing that, or any other method that gets around legal restrictions that were intended for actual replica weapons, but ended up including *toys* that look like weapons)



Must... resist... urge... to say "I told you so" to all those people who openly dismissed the research and warnings we made about being prepared in case it happened (as it took some time after MP-5 before they started catching them as well, just not this long). :p

[DELTAprime]

Well even though I didn't need it I'm still glad I got my letter from the Queensland Police before buying my MP36 in November. Never hurts to do your homework when it comes to gunformers.

[spiderken17]

Unfortunately my first order with PC never eventuated so I was hesitant to order one from any of the other new Aussie retailers who wanted payment up front when the re-issue was announced. I went with HLJ as everyone had good reports from them and I suppose that because I was one of the last to get my re-issue shipped ABF were onto it by then. Maybe if I got it shipped a different way it might have got through. Either way, I knew there was a risk but I really didn't want to have to jump through all the hoops to get one. Meh, you win some you lose some, when I get one it will just be the most expensive MP36 ever :)

Regarding change of ownership, I may be happy to give it to anyone who wants to go through the hassles involved. I wouldn't expect them to give it to me on the sly, better they have it than it goes in the bin.
I will think on it tonight. Maybe I will look at what's involved in obtaining the licence again.

[spiderken17]

All the links in the permit topic say page not found. Any ideas why?

[DELTAprime]

All the links in the permit topic say page not found. Any ideas why?

Works fine for me.:confused:

[spiderken17]

Meh, its all too hard, if someone with the permits wants to try and get it, I am happy to sign stuff and whatnot. They can keep it if they succeed.

[griffin]

All the links in the permit topic say page not found. Any ideas why?

Looks like they've been moving things around on their website again.
I'll have to do some investigating and update the links again.

[ZoonMaster5000]

I wonder how I’ll go when I ship mine next week? I’m hoping that it being packed with 17 other boxes might hide it a bit and mine always come through Melbourne. Hopefully they aren’t as wary as their Sydney counterparts. My 1st one shipped no problem from ny, so I wonder why they are suddenly picking up on it.

[drifand]

I wonder how I’ll go when I ship mine next week? I’m hoping that it being packed with 17 other boxes might hide it a bit and mine always come through Melbourne. Hopefully they aren’t as wary as their Sydney counterparts. My 1st one shipped no problem from ny, so I wonder why they are suddenly picking up on it.

bigger the items or if you used EMS the higher chances it gets inspected. Mind you, sometimes they dont even make a deal out of it. Is a lucky draw.
If you applied a permit, is actually all good in most cases.

[UltraMarginal]

That sucks Ken, I was wondering why these weren't getting picked up by customs like MP-05.

[philby]

Meh, its all too hard, if someone with the permits wants to try and get it, I am happy to sign stuff and whatnot. They can keep it if they succeed.

I thought there was a lot of advice and stuff in the gunformers thread. You are so close! Don't give up now 😊

[spiderken17]

To be honest i cant be stuffed havinga licence that needs renewal and a lock box and paperwork to go with a transformer toy. I will chalk this one up as a loss and get one locally without the hassles.

[philby]

To be honest i cant be stuffed havinga licence that needs renewal and a lock box and paperwork to go with a transformer toy. I will chalk this one up as a loss and get one locally without the hassles.

what if....you get it once so you can receive the item then don't renew?
does customs destroy it if you don't claim it?

[DELTAprime]

does customs destroy it if you don't claim it?

Yep, bye bye Megatron.

[Penetrator]

this is probably the first case of customs seizing MP36's.


since the first release all the way to the reissue and the end of January/beginning of february, there has been no issues getting it into Sydney.

Sadly, they must have now caught on and items like weijiang megs still unsure if it will even get through now... :confused:

[hYpNoS]

Oh dear, and I was waiting on a redeco of this mold in something more appealing, guess that ain't happening :c

[DELTAprime]

Oh dear, and I was waiting on a redeco of this mold in something more appealing, guess that ain't happening :c

I'm sure there would be people in other states willing to sell you a MP Megatron in the future.

I bet TLTC will be out of the game as far as future MP Megatron sales as they are Melbourne based and while it's not as tough as the NSW laws it's still a pain to get the paperwork in Vic.

[drifand]

I might have one for sale but the box is slightly crushed :(
But yeah at least mine is already in WA and legally brought it.

[reillyd]

I know most people want official, but there are lots of third party KO MP Megs. I wonder if they ship in robot mode, and don't have him pictured in gun mode? Just a thought.

I still have my original MP Megatron (the first) and so didn't see the point in buying a second release. But sympathies for those who got siezed.

[reillyd]

I just looked up this info on non-firing replica weapons for Qld.

https://www.police.qld.gov.au/programs/weaponsLicensing/licenceApplication/weapons/replicas.htm

Am I understanding this right? "NO weapons license is required"?
I needed one to retrieve megs from customs when he first came out, so does that mean that I could buy him now and not need to fill out any paperwork? He would be a category H for handgun

[drifand]

I know most people want official, but there are lots of third party KO MP Megs. I wonder if they ship in robot mode, and don't have him pictured in gun mode? Just a thought.

I still have my original MP Megatron (the first) and so didn't see the point in buying a second release. But sympathies for those who got siezed.

I let you know, my IT Megatron just arrived in the parcel locker today. Hence it wasn't a problem and random check.

Also they dont really open the box, so the picture may not be relevant.
Parcels are put through xray machines i think. and opened if they have doubts.

[drifand]

I just looked up this info on non-firing replica weapons for Qld.

https://www.police.qld.gov.au/programs/weaponsLicensing/licenceApplication/weapons/replicas.htm

Am I understanding this right? "NO weapons license is required"?
I needed one to retrieve megs from customs when he first came out, so does that mean that I could buy him now and not need to fill out any paperwork? He would be a category H for handgun

I believe you still need to apply for paper work for it to enter Australia just like WA. If yours got stopped, and customs asked for papers, and you just show the approve or even application form that you applied.

[griffin]

(Please avoid promoting KOs here or talking about them in a favourable way.)

[reillyd]

I believe you still need to apply for paper work for it to enter Australia just like WA. If yours got stopped, and customs asked for papers, and you just show the approve or even application form that you applied.

So is this the importation permit you're talking about? It calls it a B709DA
https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/busi/impo/proh/firearms-and-weapons/imitation-firearms

I have found the online application for Queensland residents, if it is of use to anyone https://www.police.qld.gov.au/apps/reports/importpermit/

It also says that you can apply even if seizedby Border Force as long as you attach the seizure notice. Hope that helps someone!

Since reading this thread, I've watched a YouTube review of the newer MP36.
I can now clearly see why you're all excited, even if I am a year late to the party.
He has more than one face? And a battle damaged chest? Going to have to track him down

[bowspearer]

Speaking of MP-36, anyone seen this (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?p=583863)?

[drifand]

The It Megatron, is in robot mode. The box has no pictures of it in gun mode.
It includes the English canon .

I still like the finished on tt. For review you can search them on YouTube as I am not promoting any non official in this thread.

[DELTAprime]

Guys, just a reminder, KO and 3P are not allowed outside of the Unauthorised Transformers Products (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/forumdisplay.php?f=46) sub-forum.

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

I think it is constructive to talk about KOs in regard to why one passed through customs undetected while an official MP-36 did not.

As an extension to this, would a loose official MP-36 pass customs? For example, Robotoybase is quite happy to send items loose (http://robotoybase.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=4243&search=mp-36) in order to save money on shipping. Would customs pick up on this? Particularly if bundled with other loose items?

[hYpNoS]

I think it is constructive to talk about KOs in regard to why one passed through customs undetected while an official MP-36 did not.

As an extension to this, would a loose official MP-36 pass customs? For example, Robotoybase is quite happy to send items loose (http://robotoybase.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=4243&search=mp-36) in order to save money on shipping. Would customs pick up on this? Particularly if bundled with other loose items?
They pass through an xray scanner, if they recognize the silhouette its pinged, that said whoever is checking who may not know of mp36 or is feeling lazy on the job may miss him during a scan among a pile of other goods.

But random checks are a thing, I had a model kit I ordered from Japan opened, they put a cut mark in the kit's box and clearly dove their hand into the kit's contents, like a gun smaller than a tr deluxe thats not even built could hurt someone, sheesh

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

They pass through an xray scanner, if they recognize the silhouette its pinged, that said whoever is checking who may not know of mp36 or is feeling lazy on the job may miss him during a scan among a pile of other goods.

But random checks are a thing, I had a model kit I ordered from Japan opened, they put a cut mark in the kit's box and clearly dove their hand into the kit's contents, like a gun smaller than a tr deluxe thats not even built could hurt someone, sheesh

Yeah, for sure there's the luck of the draw on whether you get a worker who's competent or not.

It'll be interesting to see going forward whether more MP-36's get held up or not.

[ZoonMaster5000]

Yeah, for sure there's the luck of the draw on whether you get a worker who's competent or not.

It'll be interesting to see going forward whether more MP-36's get held up or not.

Well mine will be here this week coming with about 17 other mp and legends figures. Jap ems usually fly through customs so I’ll know pretty quickly if it’s been held up.

[griffin]

I think it is constructive to talk about KOs in regard to why one passed through customs undetected while an official MP-36 did not.

We can talk/discuss KOs, just not to promote them or encourage others to buy them.


As an extension to this, would a loose official MP-36 pass customs? For example, Robotoybase is quite happy to send items loose (http://robotoybase.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=4243&search=mp-36) in order to save money on shipping. Would customs pick up on this? Particularly if bundled with other loose items?

MP-5 and MP-36 are both packed in robot mode, so it doesn't matter if it is shipped in or out of the box... it's the x-ray outline of the robot mode that they study and then look out for.

[drifand]

I would have thought the scope and the stalk would be the main trigger to alert their system.

BTW, just make sure everyone goes through the normal process of owning one.
I know quite a lot of people just wing it and tells me I thought there isn't anything prevent QLD or WA from bringing in.

[ZoonMaster5000]

I’ve just started the process of obtaining a permit but... it may appear I have to be a member of a gun club to get the permit. But it also says on the form I can have someone with permit take custody until I obtain one. Talk about a loophole

[GoktimusPrime]

I prefer to be safe than sorry. When I brought MP36 bag into the country I had my permit on me (packed with the toy in my check-in luggage) and photos of my safe storage compliance on my phone, reading to submit to Customs for inspection upon request. I wasn't pinged, but I was prepared for it.

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. ;)

[reillyd]

I’ve just started the process of obtaining a permit but... it may appear I have to be a member of a gun club to get the permit. But it also says on the form I can have someone with permit take custody until I obtain one. Talk about a loophole

I don't think it will be long before your gun laws change, if you're still in TAS. and if you can own the real thing but not the toy, that's effed up

[ZoonMaster5000]

I don't think it will be long before your gun laws change, if you're still in TAS. and if you can own the real thing but not the toy, that's effed up

Yep, pump action shotguns come at me. He’s just land at customs in melb this morning so will know in a few days if my box is megatronless. Maybe I could ask takara to make one that shoots real bullets to make it easier for me to import:p

[spiderken17]

Most expensive MP36 Masterpiece ever!:D

https://i.imgur.com/UJUcGEy.jpg?3

[DaptoDog]

Congrats Ken, glad you got there in the end. Megs is worth it.

[UltraMarginal]

Marvellous!

[ZoonMaster5000]

That really is good news. Is it the one customs had? Mine arrived yesterday no issues.

[spiderken17]

No this is another one. Customs can keep the other one.

[philby]

Most expensive MP36 Masterpiece ever!:D

https://i.imgur.com/UJUcGEy.jpg?3

Nice one! I'm glad you stuck it out, I was almost preparing to hype up myself for potentially looking into getting it lol. The thought of it just being destroyed and going to waste was scary!

[drifand]

Nice one! I'm glad you stuck it out, I was almost preparing to hype up myself for potentially looking into getting it lol. The thought of it just being destroyed and going to waste was scary!

he did left it with Customs, is going to be destroyed.

[Deonasis]

he did left it with Customs, is going to be destroyed.

:( proceed on your way to oblivion :(

[ZoonMaster5000]

:( proceed on your way to oblivion :(

S@#t maybe they might send spiderken a MP galvatron!

[philby]

No this is another one. Customs can keep the other one.

Whoops, I didn't read this bit hehe.

Is it possible for someone else to get your figure? Are they still holding it for the moment?

Could you actually pass on responsibility to someone else, in another state, if they get the paperwork?

[spiderken17]

If anyone wants to try and get it they can but they would have to be quick as the notice of seizure is dated the 5th of March (although I didn't get it until the 11th!)

[philby]

Can they extend it?

[bowspearer]

If anyone wants to try and get it they can but they would have to be quick as the notice of seizure is dated the 5th of March (although I didn't get it until the 11th!)

If it can be redirected to the ACT, my B709A is current (got one sitting in my private warehouse).

[spiderken17]

You welcome to contact customs and ask. I can forward you any relevant info. I am not spending an hour on hold again to speak with them unless i know at the end that it can be done.

[bowspearer]

You welcome to contact customs and ask. I can forward you any relevant info. I am not spending an hour on hold again to speak with them unless i know at the end that it can be done.

Send me a PM with the info; I'll try Tuesday next week.

[Galvatran]

he did left it with Customs, is going to be destroyed.
+ We'll see who's ready for the scrapheap.

+ Megatron doesn't yield. He conquers.

+ Why throw away your life so recklessly?

+ Humans don't deserve to live.

+ I was wondering when you would show up.

+ I'll rip out your optics.

+ NEVER!!!

[Seraphim Prime]

They may be isolated incidents. I had no issues getting it delivered.

[BigTransformerTrev]

Must... resist... urge... to say "I told you so" to all those people who openly dismissed the research and warnings we made about being prepared in case it happened (as it took some time after MP-5 before they started catching them as well, just not this long). :p

What do ya mean ‘I told you so’? Only one person out of hundreds had their toy nabbed and the research and warnings did bugger all to help them :rolleyes:

It was a bad-luck fluke that ONE finally after all this time got held by customs, nothing more.

[nsm034]

I got another one this week and it arrived fine, so yeah sux

[griffin]

What do ya mean ‘I told you so’? Only one person out of hundreds had their toy nabbed and the research and warnings did bugger all to help them :rolleyes:

Well no... the research and warnings meant that he wasn't surprised when it was taken, and was already aware of his options - he just chose not to pursue those options because of the time and money involved in NSW to have it released by Customs.
If he'd been in QLD or WA, he most likely would have sent in the permit form as soon as he found out it was captured, without even needing to post here for someone to help him... and Megatron would have already been in his hands by now.



It was a bad-luck fluke that ONE finally after all this time got held by customs, nothing more.

The "I told you so", with some humorous tongue in cheek involved, was at the assertion that MP-36 wouldn't be nabbed at all (because it doesn't look as "replica" as MP-5), and that all my work updating the info page and posting up alerts was a waste of time.
If anyone felt that my comment was an insult aimed at them, I'm sorry. That was not why I worded it in that creative way.

This may indeed be the unlucky one to be caught, or they might have only just started looking after the reissue and this was the first that we know about on this site.
If they have now been able to identify one with their random x-ray scans, catching others is now possible, IF your package is unlucky enough to be one of the random few to be scanned, and the person on that day knows what it looks like as an X-ray image in robot mode.

If I was able to get an answer from Customs or state police departments about if MP-5 definitely NOT being deemed a replica/imitation weapon, I wouldn't have bothered with the alerts.
And I wouldn't have created an info page until the first MP-36 was captured, but since the page was already there from MP-5, it was just easier to update it and give people a friendly reminder that there was a chance their MP-36 could be captured, and IF it did, this is where you find the help you need (without a delay of chasing up answers).

[spiderken17]

I didn't take any offence with anything that was said. Like Griffin mentioned i new the risks, gambled, lost and couldn't be bothered spending the time and money getting it back.

[drifand]

I didn't take any offence with anything that was said. Like Griffin mentioned i new the risks, gambled, lost and couldn't be bothered spending the time and money getting it back.

I dont think it sounded like you were whinging or complaining at all. But at least you are informing the forum to please be aware which is a good. thing.
Anyway you got your MP-36 finally which was what matters.

Happy days.

[BigTransformerTrev]

Well no... the research and warnings meant that he wasn't surprised when it was taken, and was already aware of his options - he just chose not to pursue those options because of the time and money involved in NSW to have it released by Customs.
If he'd been in QLD or WA, he most likely would have sent in the permit form as soon as he found out it was captured, without even needing to post here for someone to help him... and Megatron would have already been in his hands by now.



The "I told you so", with some humorous tongue in cheek involved, was at the assertion that MP-36 wouldn't be nabbed at all (because it doesn't look as "replica" as MP-5), and that all my work updating the info page and posting up alerts was a waste of time.
If anyone felt that my comment was an insult aimed at them, I'm sorry. That was not why I worded it in that creative way.

This may indeed be the unlucky one to be caught, or they might have only just started looking after the reissue and this was the first that we know about on this site.
If they have now been able to identify one with their random x-ray scans, catching others is now possible, IF your package is unlucky enough to be one of the random few to be scanned, and the person on that day knows what it looks like as an X-ray image in robot mode.

If I was able to get an answer from Customs or state police departments about if MP-5 definitely NOT being deemed a replica/imitation weapon, I wouldn't have bothered with the alerts.
And I wouldn't have created an info page until the first MP-36 was captured, but since the page was already there from MP-5, it was just easier to update it and give people a friendly reminder that there was a chance their MP-36 could be captured, and IF it did, this is where you find the help you need (without a delay of chasing up answers).

Has there been a case of a second one nabbed yet?

[BigTransformerTrev]

Well no... the research and warnings meant that he wasn't surprised when it was taken, and was already aware of his options - he just chose not to pursue those options because of the time and money involved in NSW to have it released by Customs.
If he'd been in QLD or WA, he most likely would have sent in the permit form as soon as he found out it was captured, without even needing to post here for someone to help him... and Megatron would have already been in his hands by now.

The "I told you so", with some humorous tongue in cheek involved, was at the assertion that MP-36 wouldn't be nabbed at all (because it doesn't look as "replica" as MP-5), and that all my work updating the info page and posting up alerts was a waste of time.

This may indeed be the unlucky one to be caught, or they might have only just started looking after the reissue and this was the first that we know about on this site.


6 months later....


Has there been a case of a second one nabbed yet?

And yet another 6 months after that.... has even a single one more been nabbed yet? :confused:

Does this mean that in 18 months it still equals only one MP Megs nabbed by customs? Making the single incident an aberration rather than the norm?

Perhaps time to finally admit it was a bunch of needless worry-causing that, even if well intentioned (which I don"t dispute), caused many people a lot of needless stress?

[philby]

I would hardly call telling people this how you avoid breaking the law "needless scaremongering"

[drifand]

Ur yeah my copy of 36+ requires the permit in wa, they asked for it and then release.

I am sure a lot of you guys thinking just wing it. Good luck.

I highly recommend not to wing it.

My permit allows me to import till July 2019

[BigTransformerTrev]

I would hardly call telling people this how you avoid breaking the law "needless scaremongering"

Telling people how not to break the law is not scaremongering no. Making it sound like almost a damn certainty you will get your toy nicked by customs when it turns out there was about one chance in a thousand is, though I’ll grant scaremongering was probably not the best term for me to use. Perhaps ‘causing unnecessary worry’ might be better.

It was done with the best of intentions but it still doesn’t change the fact it caused a lot of people unnecessary stress and it would be nice if that was finally acknowledged, as well as it being finally acknowledged that the whole ‘danger of MP36 being impounded’ turned out to be practically non-existent.


I highly recommend having a Red Bull... then wing it...

Ha! :D

[bowspearer]

Telling people how not to break the law is not scaremongering no. Making it sound like almost a damn certainty you will get your toy nicked by customs when it turns out there was about one chance in a thousand is, though I’ll grant scaremongering was probably not the best term for me to use. Perhaps ‘causing unnecessary worry’ might be better.

It was done with the best of intentions but it still doesn’t change the fact it caused a lot of people unnecessary stress and it would be nice if that was finally acknowledged, as well as it being finally acknowledged that the whole ‘danger of MP36 being impounded’ turned out to be practically non-existent.

No offence Trev, but your dogmatic stance on this issue really does show how recently you became active in the Australian fan community, compared to those you accuse of "needless fearmongering". I notice you joined OTCA in 2011 - a good 4 years after all the grief and drama with MP-05 back in 2007.

If you were approaching things from an open minded-perspective - which you clearly haven't been on this issue - you would have asked where all of that concern and anxiety was coming from, from people who had been active in the fan community a lot longer than you had been.

Had you asked that question with an open mind, you would have found that based on what happened with MP-05, that nothing in the concerns people had over MP-36, could even remotely be described as "needless fearmongering".

Had you asked that story, you would have heard stories about how MP-05 became a target for government fearmongering and how it was actively searched for and seized - with only those in WA and QLD having as painless a time as those of us in the ACT currently have.

Had you asked that story, you've have found out that in addition to active searches and seizures, people were being treated like gun owners to actually own one - people were being made to join shooting clubs and store it like it was a working firearm (including having a gun safe and bars on windows - I kid you not). The situation was so insane that one board member here who was a solicitor, actually had to take the step of meeting with the NSW Police Minister on more than one occasion, to go about setting up a club, which the minister approved, for the sole purpose of owning MP-05.

Yes, the situations with MP-36 and MP-05 proved to be like chalk and cheese, but none of us who lived through MP-05 had any reason to believe things would be different with MP-36 and had people not taken these steps, then by Murphy's Law, you can be sure that the same thing that happened with MP-05 would have happened with MP-36.

So you can keep on with the "needless fearmongering" rhetoric all you want. However it isn't a good look in light of what happened back in 2007 with MP-05.

[BigTransformerTrev]

No offence Trev, but your dogmatic stance on this issue really does show how recently you became active in the Australian fan community, compared to those you accuse of "needless fearmongering". I notice you joined OTCA in 2011 - a good 4 years after all the grief and drama with MP-05 back in 2007.

If you were approaching things from an open minded-perspective - which you clearly haven't been on this issue - you would have asked where all of that concern and anxiety was coming from, from people who had been active in the fan community a lot longer than you had been.

Had you asked that question with an open mind, you would have found that based on what happened with MP-05, that nothing in the concerns people had over MP-36, could even remotely be described as "needless fearmongering".

Had you asked that story, you would have heard stories about how MP-05 became a target for government fearmongering and how it was actively searched for and seized - with only those in WA and QLD having as painless a time as those of us in the ACT currently have.

Had you asked that story, you've have found out that in addition to active searches and seizures, people were being treated like gun owners to actually own one - people were being made to join shooting clubs and store it like it was a working firearm (including having a gun safe and bars on windows - I kid you not). The situation was so insane that one board member here who was a solicitor, actually had to take the step of meeting with the NSW Police Minister on more than one occasion, to go about setting up a club, which the minister approved, for the sole purpose of owning MP-05.

Yes, the situations with MP-36 and MP-05 proved to be like chalk and cheese, but none of us who lived through MP-05 had any reason to believe things would be different with MP-36 and had people not taken these steps, then by Murphy's Law, you can be sure that the same thing that happened with MP-05 would have happened with MP-36.

So you can keep on with the "needless fearmongering" rhetoric all you want. However it isn't a good look in light of what happened back in 2007 with MP-05.

Your comparing apples and oranges and virtue signalling all over the place. Stop acting like a Cultural Marxist.

[danny-boy]

Ur yeah my copy of 36+ requires the permit in wa, they asked for it and then release.

I am sure a lot of you guys thinking just wing it. Good luck.

I highly recommend not to wing it.

My permit allows me to import till July 2019

So they asked for the permit. Which do you have, the permit to import or the permit to own a replica? What would have happened if you couldn’t provide the necessary paperwork?

[bowspearer]

Your comparing apples and oranges and virtue signalling all over the place.

No, I'm saying that it's absurd to claim that this was all "needless fearmongering", when based on past experiences, every concern was a valid and reasonable one and made with justifiable intentions.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but blindly arguing through it can also be a fallacy


Stop acting like a Cultural Marxist.

ROFLMAO. You're seriously accusing me of acting like a cultural Marxist with the discussions I've had on here?????? :D:D:D:D:D:D

Ok, whatever floats your boat I guess.

[Trent]

6 months later....



And yet another 6 months after that.... has even a single one more been nabbed yet? :confused:

Does this mean that in 18 months it still equals only one MP Megs nabbed by customs? Making the single incident an aberration rather than the norm?

As per below, make that 2. Fortunately Drifand had his permit in place and it was released to him no problems.


Ur yeah my copy of 36+ requires the permit in wa, they asked for it and then release.

I am sure a lot of you guys thinking just wing it. Good luck.

I highly recommend not to wing it.

My permit allows me to import till July 2019

The thing to note Trev is that it is 2 that we know about. How many more we’re like Drifand in that it was confiscated but because they had all the appropriate permits in place, it was released to them with no hassles? Maybe those people aren’t super active on social media. There could be many more out there.

And bowspearer does have a point. Collectors had no reason to believe that Mp-36 would be any different to MP-05. If someone chose to import Megs without a permit and wasn’t caught, then good on them. But I would hardly call what griff and others did as scaremongering.

[BigTransformerTrev]

As per below, make that 2. Fortunately Drifand had his permit in place and it was released to him no problems.

The thing to note Trev is that it is 2 that we know about. How many more we’re like Drifand in that it was confiscated but because they had all the appropriate permits in place, it was released to them with no hassles? Maybe those people aren’t super active on social media. There could be many more out there.

Ok, thats a fair point.

Look, in the end I really have no issue with what Griffin & Ralph Wiggum did. They have created a fantastic resource which can really help out anyone who has issues with importing MP36 or other gunformers. Good on them I say! Must have taken a lot of time and effort on their parts in order to try and help out the larger collector community as a whole. My issue has always been the tone with which it was done. Several of us argued from the start that 'all would be well' and we got drowned out by all the people making it sound as though this figure getting nabbed would be a near certainty. It would have been better for it to be worded as 'hey, just in case the same thing happens with MP36 as MP05, here is what you do:' In the end, that is my real and only issue with the whole thing.



And bowspearer does have a point. Collectors had no reason to believe that Mp-36 would be any different to MP-05. If someone chose to import Megs without a permit and wasn’t caught, then good on them. But I would hardly call what griff and others did as scaremongering.

I lived through the 'great MP-05 hunt of 07'. And I imported that Megs no problem with no paperwork ;)

And I have retracted the 'scaremongering' line and admitted that was a poor choice of words (even edited the original post) so I'm not sure why people keep quoting it.

But out of interest, how many people out there have got their Gunformers locked in a gun safe? That was also something that was spruiked a lot, that we all need to do that otherwise the cops are gonna bust down the door and take our toys. Any cases of that happening yet (genuine question)?

I actually do have a gun safe, I keep the kids Xmas and birthday presents in it so they don't find them. Megs is in a glass cabinet in the dining room :p

[drifand]

So they asked for the permit. Which do you have, the permit to import or the permit to own a replica? What would have happened if you couldn’t provide the necessary paperwork?

As is free in WA is not a good excuse not to apply for it. Mine expired in December and I re apply.

Custom actually called the phone on my parcel and asked about the item.
It was held in Melbourne not Perth.

I was actually unlucky as my permit was not in hand yet. But I gladly told them I can forward my email that I have applied from the WA police department with the form application and the dated time of email. Gave them the email and they release it to continue to Perth .

When it did reach Perth I actually got the permit following day but it was no longer needed as they checked with the WA police.

Had the item misb not open but can see the parcel box stated it cleared custom.

My application now last till July 2019 and after I need to apply again if I want to buy another Megatron.

[GoktimusPrime]

Here you go...
https://i.ibb.co/717Bwvr/gunformers-flowchart.jpg
...and done

[Tha_Phantom]

Hope you get a laugh out of this one Trev. :p

https://i.ibb.co/LPvnm08/gun-logic-cyo.jpg (https://ibb.co/VN32RLt)

[BigTransformerTrev]

Hope you get a laugh out of this one Trev. :p

https://i.ibb.co/LPvnm08/gun-logic-cyo.jpg (https://ibb.co/VN32RLt)

Bwah hahaha! Nicely done :D


Here you go...
https://i.ibb.co/717Bwvr/gunformers-flowchart.jpg
...and done

All jokes aside, I like this chart, very straight forward. When they eventually release yet another MP Megatron (we know they will :rolleyes:) I'll refer to it rather than get involved with the conversations :)

Anyway, I've obviously voiced my opinion regarding the whole affair plenty of times now so no more from me regarding the issue :)

[drifand]

I actually am surprised the amount of tf collectors I know in WA don’t bother to apply for it as they think you don’t need to.
Is not my position to comment on the matter but I said it before it is free to apply online in WA and takes 5 minutes.

[Sinnertwin]

This thread reminded me how much of a backward state NSW & to a degree the country is.

[Tha_Phantom]

This thread reminded me how much of a backward state NSW & to a degree the country is.

Agreed.

[Ralph Wiggum]

Zero apologies for passing on information that was given direct from the authorities, in my case WA Police. And I hope Griff and other board members feel the same.

Most of the discussion in the gunformers thread was about whether MP-36 was considered a replica weapon, and the legalities of owning one. The inconsistencies between different jurisdictions doesn’t help but the discussions was far from scare mongering or worry-inducing . Any OTT comments about Police doing searches of your home were shot down pretty quickly.

The advice regarding customs forms came direct from the authorities. The fact that we have customs…
1. Not opening packages.
2. Opening packages and not doing anything
3. Opening packages and asking for permits
…is a reflection on customs not knowing what the hell they’re doing, rather than a problem with the advice given.

Advice was given based on past experience and its a bit rich to say it was all an overreaction with the benefit of hindsight.

I ended up stopping contributing to the gunformers thread as it was clear the questions were getting repetitive when there is more than enough information available. I’m going to jump in early and say that when Megatron 3.0 is announced, do your own research and do whatever floats your boat.

Peace out.


This thread reminded me how much of a backward state NSW & to a degree the country is.

Don’t get me started on another of my hobbies (Gel ball blasters) where the legality is being debated and more inconsistency from customs in how they handle imports.