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I'm glad I didn't make a huge investment in Siege. But I probably would have if I didn't already have Henkei and United figures of a lot of those guys. That said I'm annoyed I have to purchase an Earth mode Ratchet to get Lifeline as I prefer Siege Ratchet and Ironhide.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bidoofdude
It makes me wish that they'd leaned a little bit harder into the alien with the WFCS designs. Most of them are just 'Earthen vehicle in a slightly odd shape'.
Makes you wonder if they're going to give us Kingdom first, then follow it up with evenmoreuberaccurate!!! figures.
On the one hand, many of the Beast Wars characters got upgrades to new forms in a way that almost no G1 characters did (PM Optimus and Goldbug aside).Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinnertwin
On the other hand, those upgrades on the show were already so accurate to the Transmetal toys!
Not disgreeing with you; you're right that there were clear Earthen overtones; but I suspect it's because too alien wont sell as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by SharkyMcShark
...I know I wouldn't have bought as many as I did.
This coupled with the lack of saucer Bumblebee and hovercraft Wheeljack is the disapponting bit of the line.Quote:
Originally Posted by SharkyMcShark
I guess we now know what this was for... now that the retro TR Headmasters were revealed last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by griffin
I'm glad we didn't get saucer Bee or hover van Wheeljack, so many fans would complaining about how Bee does store inside of WJ to recreate that, "one moment from the cartoon."Quote:
Originally Posted by Bidoofdude
Sounds like a Masterpiece problem :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by SMHFConvoy
Literally a round peg into a square hole.Quote:
Originally Posted by valkyrie_76
I was thinking about the MP Starscream with Optimus' head as a disguise...........one second from a scene and its an expensive bonus.Quote:
Originally Posted by SMHFConvoy
And didn't 3A or whatever they're called now have the same add on with it's non transforming Prime?Quote:
Originally Posted by valkyrie_76
Wasn't the vehicle covering for Hound also a single scene in the cartoon, when they were driving somewhere underwater in the ocean... and then, never seen again?
That rarely used accessory (only able to use it in vehicle mode, and the non-covered vehicle form is what fans recognise as Hound) would have made the price for Hound a lot more than it needed to be as well.
Accessories, yes... but make sure they are worth the inclusion and expense for buyers to get some use out of them, like their weapons, display stand, or a human companion.
A new batch of listings from Walmart in the US, that could end up being actual toy releases (it is never guaranteed).
Netflix wave 3 - Voyager Battlefield Optimus Primal, Voyager Battlefield Seeker.
Headmaster "reissues" wave 2 - Wierdwolf, Skullcruncher, Highbrow. (that covers the remaining 3 of the regular sized 1986 Headmasters)
R.E.D. wave 3? - Optimus Primal, redeco Megatron.
Some possible Kingdom figures - Voyager Rhinox, Voyager Tigatron, Core Class Soundwave.
More possible Kingdom toys...
Core Class Soundwave
Core Class Dracodon
Deluxe class Scorponok (most likely Beast Wars)
Deluxe Class Wheeljack
Deluxe Class Wingfinger
Deluxe Class Tracks
Deluxe Class Shadow Panther
Deluxe Class Pipes
Deluxe Class Slammer
Deluxe Class Waspinator
Voyager Class Rhinox
Voyager Class Tigatron
Leader Class Galvatron
Product listings have been found in America from the Walmart or Target computers, of what could be another Monopoly game for Transformers... which has a current Hasbro product number, so isn't (shouldn't be) a re-release of an older version.
Actually, since it HAS a Hasbro product number, it won't be one produced by the two companies that have licenses to produce themed Monopoly games. (almost all themed Monopoly games are not produced by Hasbro... as Hasbro produces larger minimum quantities to sell around the world, while the themed sets are small runs that are too small for Hasbro to care about, to sell mostly sell in specialty stores or in a single country if it is a geographical theme)
This could either be a good quality version from Hasbro in-house with fans in mind, or a really cheap version to sell by the millions around the world.
The 2007 Transformers Monopoly set (with Dreamwave art on the box, and the board folds in half) was produced by a company called USAOpoly (looks like it could have re-released in 2013 with new box deco).
The 2015 Transformers Monopoly set (with Gen1 toy character art on the box, and the board folds into quarters) was produced by a company called Winning Moves.
The 2017 Transformers Premium/Deluxe Monopoly set (plastic sides fold open to reveal playing track, with original artwork in the middle) was also produced by Winning Moves (for about US$300-500!).
(my searches also came up with a Monopoly Junior Transformers set, but it looks like a "knock off" with bad artwork and branding on the box, with no company logos anywhere, and really bad "engrish" product description on the back)
Also... a new Studio Series listing, that could just be a re-release of Dropkick, in the Buzzworthy Bumblebee line (if these product listings were found at a US Target store).
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Monopoly Transformers – Product number: F1660 – MSRP $19.99
TRA Studio series Dropkick Dino Product number: F2260 – MSRP: $19.99
Possible first look at a new MP Thundercracker using the new MP Starscream mold. If true these repaints are coming faster than most expected.
The opening credits pose is quite nostalgic too.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaptoDog
Hopefully, for you MP collects, Takara will make Thundercracker, Skywarp, Thrust, Dirge and Ramjet all general retail this time around and not limited exclusives.
But then how can they charge more for the same toy in a different colour scheme made by the same people in the same factory?Quote:
Originally Posted by DELTAprime
Each production run has a base cost (setting up, test run, etc) to factor in on top of the cost of materials and labour, so then the more units that are produced, the cheaper it is per unit... which is why exclusives can be more expensive, as the base cost is spread across less units.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinnertwin
Images have surfaced of four redeco Deluxe Generations toys, that could be upcoming Selects or Netflix toys, but are yet to be officially revealed.
These were loose samples, so could have been leaked images from the factory or from a Hasbro employee.
We have two "rust" redecos of Barricade and Ironhide, as well as redecos of Cheetor (said to be toy accurate colouring) and Paleotrex (said to be Sparkless).
With Earthrise now over, one question that will probably never be answered is, what was WFC-E28 meant to be?
According to one person dropping a lot of plausible leaks for 2021, they claim that it was meant to be another Sideswipe... possibly a remould into an earth mode.
Its funny how the cost suddenly jumps when TT designate them as exclusives, isn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by griffin
While the base costs may be the same ( which after the 1st run should be streamlined anyway) everything else isn't.
You're not investing in R & D, you're using less raw material, less packaging, less man hours, you're not creating new moulds to inject, all you're literally doing is pulling the moulds out of storage and changing colours.
While I guess we'll never know what E28 actually would've been, there is a 2020 WFC release that never got a number: Alternate Universe Optimus.Quote:
Originally Posted by griffin
The costs include:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinnertwin
- designing the new packaging art
- designing the paint deco
- creating test shots etc to see how the repaint looks, ferrying them back and forth from the factory to the head office in Japan
- signing a contract with the factory, negotiating whatever has to be negotiated (and possibly a second contract for the box!)
There could be other costs. And while this stuff is bread and butter for a company like TakaraTomy, if a designer takes two weeks of working time to finalise that redeco, there's a cost on the books for that.
Granted, these costs ARE a lot lower than a new mould, but these costs are spread across a much lower production run for exclusives than mass release toys. I have no idea what the ratio of a mass release to a limited release is, but if you compare how many ER Cliffjumpers made it to Australia - likely 4 figures - vs the few hundred Hubcaps (and factor in that not all countries will have gotten Hubcap), I wouldn't be surprised if it's 10:1 or higher. $0.05 repaint cost per toy on a mass release toy means $0.50 per toy for it's limited repaint.
(I am just using Cliffjumper vs Hubcap as an example, I know we're talking MPs).
An image of a toy is being claimed to be WFC Deep Cover.... a black & blue Siege Sideswipe.
Possibly two of 2021's GEN Selects toys have been found listed somewhere, but they have product codes from middle of last year... so maybe they were planned to be out in 2020 but were pushed back to this year (or they have been cancelled, as the source of the listing was not given, so it could just be old preliminary listings that haven't been deleted yet).
Ramjet is obviously another use of the Ramjet/Sandstorm mould. Transmutate is a complete unknown though. GEN Selects have never had a new mould (yet), so is it a redeco of an existing WFC toy... or did they plan to re-issue the previous Transmutate toy from 2006?Quote:
- Tra Gen selects Voyager G2 Ramjet (16 in a case)
Product Number: F0465
EAN: 5010993828715- Tra Gen selects Deluxe Transmutate (24 in a case)
Product Number: F0483
EAN: 5010993828685
If it is a redeco of a WFC toy (or even a PWT toy), what mould would work? Because a fan-focussed toy should be more authentic than a retail release, and Transmutate didn't have an alt-mode. (FunPub did a Transmutate toy using the TFPrime Arcee motorcycle mould, but it was designated to be her pre-Beast Wars mode on Cybertron... if the GEN Selects toy was a Deluxe motorcycle, the last one we had was Wreckgar/Groove, which was probably a bit too bulky because it was a combiner limb.)
Never heard of Transmutate before, so I looked it up.
That's hideous.
So one of the silly skeletal things from Kingdom should do, I guess.
Transmutate, might look like a mess, but is a great episode of Beast Wars. I hope if it is not just reusing one of the WFC figures. A re-release I'd be happy with, and even though I have it, I'd buy again.
A motorcycle makes sense with how spindly transmutate was in the show. It'll be interesting to see what they end of doing or of it'll be a half finished piece of garbage like the satellite soundwave figure from the selects or whatever it is called line.
Looks like Generations Selects Deep Cover is real. Twitter user Cheetimus has shown off pics. Seems like it'll be officially revealed soon.
https://twitter.com/Cheetimus/status...433802241?s=19
Sorry for the language.
Was kinda wondering if it would be the rumoured Earthmode Sideswipe. That it’s this one makes me a little less interested.
They'll probably do Clampdown in the Earth mould to trigger my OCD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulbot
People with supposed connections keep saying (over on TFW2005) that Earth Sideswipe is dead and buried.
I wonder what the chances are of the Sweeps being real? I just bought two more Scourge's today to have as Sweeps. I won't open them for a little while in case it turns out there are dedicated Sweeps as I can return them if they are unopened. Still, how different could movie-accurate Sweeps be from Scourge himself???Quote:
Originally Posted by griffin
I'm still surprised they didn't do an MP Deepcover. I'm tempted to get one of my G2 Sideswipe redone
I'm still surprised they didn't do an MP Deepcover yetQuote:
Originally Posted by 1AZRAEL1
Although, given Lambor was one of the first MPs in the second design phase, a Lambor/Sideswipe V2.0 isn't out of the question...
The Walmart app in America has apparently yielded a list of new Cyberverse toys, noted as 4th year toys... which if true, would relate to the two TV movies that were announced a couple months ago.
Since there is a heavy presence of Dinobots, I guess we will be seeing them feature in one or both movies.
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- Transformers Cyberverse Ultimate S4 Hot Rod
- Transformers Cyberverse Ultra S4 Sludge
- Transformers Cyberverse Deluxe S4 Slug
- Transformers Cyberverse Deluxe S4 Cheetor
- Transformers Cyberverse Ultra S4 Ramjet
- Transformers Cyberverse Ultimate S4 Volcanicus
- Transformers Cyberverse Roll And Combine Assortment
- Transformers Cyberverse Roll And Transform Assortment
- Transformers Dino Optimus Prime
- Transformers Dinobot Defenders
- Transformers Dinobot Strikers
- Transformers Botbots Dino Store