well durr lazerbeak carried them over, like an ant he can carry above his weight:pQuote:
Originally Posted by Paulbot
1st movie still the best in terms of plot lines
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well durr lazerbeak carried them over, like an ant he can carry above his weight:pQuote:
Originally Posted by Paulbot
1st movie still the best in terms of plot lines
Second movie had it too... which I think is unnecessary. It makes them look organic or cyborgs. If they need to be spraying vital fluids it should be black, as oil was always used as the synonym for blood in previous TFs eras.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkyWarp91
meh, I just assumed it's some kind of random mech fluid. The drooling thing is weird. And how Que and Brains have hair... erm... okay. :/ The comics seem to suggest that it's their way of integrating with humans - which would make more sense if it happened to a character called Hound, but admittedly that's just my G1 bias kicking in there.
What happened to Starscream to turn him into a rabid freak? All that crazy drooling was weird
The blue fellow who barely spoke? That was Topspin. His pincers for servos are the giveaway.Quote:
Originally Posted by shokwave2
Sourced this from TF Wiki, not sure if you have already read it:Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulbot
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers_3
Meanwhile, Dylan manages to reactivate the toppled pillar, but is attacked by Sam, who hurls him against the pillar, killing him. Subsequently, Bumblebee destroys the pillar for good, thus destroying the space bridge and, presumably, Cybertron with it.
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Believing their home planet to be destroyed for good, the remaining Autobots accept Earth as their new home.
Has anyone wondered why Megatron is just hobo-ing around during the whole Chicago battle when Carly finds him?? The first time i saw it, i thought maybe Sentinel pushed Megatron off the building, but he didnt- all he did was stick his hand into his head.
At first i thought "that could've damaged Megatron, hence why he's in the alley later" but after Sam rescues Carly from Dylan in trump tower, Dylan goes screaming "we've got Autobots!" to which, we then see Megatron alive and well on top of teh building and he goes "Decepticons, protect the pillars!! raise the bridges!" This is the last time we see Megatron before he's hobo-ing around in some alley -__-
I'd like to think that seeing as though Megatron is missing half of his brain and what is left is clearly invested with cyber-parasites, that he is in a very delusive and detached mental state - very akin to a borderline psychotic vegetable-like state. :D
Hence, he just sits there in a world of his own as he watches his beloved Cybertron appear before his optics, grinning with a deluded delight... cue Carly. ;):cool:
There's a whole army of Decepticons taking over the city under Sentinel Prime's command and the Autobots seem able to offer much resistance. Might as well sit back and enjoy the show. ;)
Btw, the comic adaptation provides an explanation as to why the Ark happened to crash on Earth's moon of all places in the universe...
"Sentinel was to seek out the last Star Harvester - to fuel our empire's expansion - then rendezvous with me. But fate waylaid us both, before drawing us all together - to Earth." - Megatron
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Originally Posted by WIIGII
HAHA Hobotron. He was the best character. I actually see a trend, the three main scenes we see him (desert, lincoln's chair and during the battle) he ends up sitting on his metal butt. I'm guessing he doesnt have the energy to stand.
I saw TF3 for the second time the other day with my friends. One of my friend's was watching it for the second time aswell... when the part with Hobotron and Carly began we both looked at each other and laughed, holding our hands our in front of ourselves like beggers... 'spare some energon sir... spare some energon.' HAHA!
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Originally Posted by Hursticon
That makes sense... it explains why Megatron didnt just flick carly. Granted she was right, but Megatron would have flicked that little human anyway!
why didnt he use his cosmic rust weapon on megatron and prime?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bartrim
After reading through the majority of these posts I can't help but feel as though people are wanting to hate the movie or ruin the enjoyment of it for themselves by rationalising something that really can't be rationalised.
If there's one thing I know being a Transformers fan for 27 years, there are going to be continuity errors. I've learned to accept them while enjoying the ride.
I'm not saying anyone is wrong in expressing their opinions (that's what this forum is for), but why not accept the movie for what it is - entertainment.
I haven't seen the movie yet, so I can't comment on it's quality (or lack of) directly.Quote:
Originally Posted by 5FDP
But I think what a lot of people are frustrated about is the lack of care that it has seems to have been put together with.
It's one thing to nitpick out plotholes after multiple viewings, but if the major holes are quite evident from one viewing, then where were the people in charge when they were editing this?
When I go to watch a movie, I don't want to switch my brain off. That's a way of saying 'we couldn't be bothered making this thing coherent...Look!! EXPLOSIONS! GIRLS!! GIANT ROBOTS!!!'
I want more than that. Or am I being greedy?
Because being dead/inactive for so long makes your logical processes rusty badoomtish! :D:D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by tron07
- skywarp :D (in the love of janda LOL)
I'm working on the assumption that it went something like this:Quote:
Originally Posted by Demonac
EDITOR: This makes no sense - write some exposition, get the actors back in and fill in the gaps.
MICHAEL BAY: Whammo! Can't do that, man - the actors all went on to other work months ago! Anyway I blew up all the sets! And all the vehicles! Bam!
EDITOR: Right. Well... just get sound-alike voice actors and animate the robots filling all the plotholes to the audience.
MICHAEL BAY: Zowie! Can't do that either, bro - I spent the rest of the animation budget on robots flying out of the moon and blowing up buildings and killing Megatron! Blammo!
EDITOR: You know you weren't actually supposed to kill Megatron, right? It was meant to be this big Return Of The Jedi/Spider Man 3 moment... Oh, #*@%, whatever. Just release it as it is. I'm sure no one will notice the weird cuts, unnecessary scenes and impossible movements.
MICHAEL BAY: Whoosh! Impossible bowel movements, you mean! When everyone craps their pants at its extremefulness! Splash!
EDITOR: ... I hate you.
i think it went more like this...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sky Shadow
Editor: Er I don't think these cuts make sense, it's all done so poorly.
Michael Bay: How bout I pay you $500,000 and you keep it the way it is?
Editor: DEAL!
I agree that people sometimes do go out of their way to hate something... which i am against. However, i love that people make parodies :D. It's like a continuation but humorous.... if a movie has flaws, rather than complain, make light of it and eventually it's becomes a positive funny part of a film... racist autobot twins! haha!Quote:
Originally Posted by 5FDP
Some "funny" people like the easy targets and repeat the same jokes they did last film, and the haters gotta hate, but that wasn't the intention when I started the thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by 5FDP
The point was that there are outstanding questions, some of which are answered by a repeat viewing, something others saw that we didn't, or in expanded universe fiction. And for the remainder that are still unanswered part of the fun is trying to answer the questions (and you're right: that has been since the days of "Where does Prime's trailer go?")
Okay I heard that Skyhammer's alt mode makes an appearance in DOTM somewhere (don't know if this is actually true or a bad tfwiki entry), does he?
Yeah, when they wanted to get in the city they used the choppers so they can "jump glide" their people in. Although as youve said it's just the alt mode... no bot mode shown on film.:):)Quote:
Originally Posted by SkyWarp91
oh and Michael Bay... paying an editor?!? Nah, the whole movie would've been snipped out:p
Skyhammer is an attack helicopter. The planes they used to para-glide into the city were used for the 'Incinerator' toy.
I don't recall the attack helicopter, unless it was inside the NEST base that Sentinel destroyed.
So... it the film itself, how did Optimus, Ratchet and Roller/Ratchet's Lunar Crawler get to the moon?
Also, I've been thinking, is the film about the dark of the moon or the far side of the moon? Because they're not the same thing - the far side of the moon is a constant, the dark is not. The French title of the film is La Face Cachée de la Lune (The Far Side Of The Moon), while the English is Dark Of The Moon. Which is correct?
They took the Xantium. It was the first time the ship was mentioned and IIRC seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sky Shadow
So they flew a massive spaceship to the moon, but it went sufficiently unnoticed that even Sam thought the Autobots had no way of leaving Earth just a few scenes later?Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulbot
Sam was off doing his job stuff and had been kept out of the NEST loop. They wouldn't even let him in the door remember. Once Prime ranted about being kept in the dark about the Ark's crash landing he said something like "we'll take our ship" and I'm sure there was a shot of it flying to the moon, followed by the bots strolling along the moon. Where that ship came from wasn't explained until Sam was introduced to it. (which is a little sloppy)
That was a funny thing in the movie - they fly to the moon in their 'Autobot-NASA hybrid' ship to get Sentinel (which they show flying in space), and then later we have the "big reveal" of the ship to the audience as if it wasn't used already.
Not sure about the lunar rovers though (there were two of them), as the Autobots didn't need them... and it wasn't a human exploration mission. They looked nice, with the Lunar Module in-shot, but both don't make any sense being there.
I assumed those were NEST/US Gov vehicles sent along to send visuals back to Earth so they could watch what the Autobots were doing.
And so the Xantium then... when exactly did it come to Earth and who were its passengers? Was it just Dino, Que, Brains and the Wreckers?
The Wreckers built it but i'm not sure if they built it on Earth (my guess is yes) or if they arrived on it.
I'm pretty sure they arrived on it, because I remember someone said "it brought the second wave of Autobots" in the film. But my point is, by "second wave" do they mean that the crew of the Xantium was those people and Skids, Mudflap, Arcee, Chromia, Elita-1, Sideswipe etc? Because if Dino, Que, Brains and the Wreckers have been around that long, might they not have been of some use in Revenge of the Fallen?Quote:
Originally Posted by LordCyrusOmega
The comic specifically referred to 'Sideswipe and the others' from the second movie, but in the movie it only mentioned 'second wave'. So it could mean the Wreckers arrived before the second movie, but were just kept in isolation because of their "behavior". And Sam should have known about it already from it being on Earth for at least 2 years.
And the wreckers are like maintenance bots, who attached a decommissioned NASA orbiter/shuttle to the Xantium (in the Movie).
In the comic, they went up to get Sentinel in an Ares V rocket, so the Xantium (which was totally Cybertronian in appearance) was properly introduced at the time the Autobots were being expelled from Earth.
Brains was a Decepticon according to the comics right? Like Wheelie he defected which is why he was living with Sam rather than being allowed into NEST HQ, which is why they weren't counted among the number of Autobots on Earth, and why the pair of them referred to themselves as Political Refugees.
I think it makes more sense for the new ship to have brought the second wave of Autobots who responded to Prime's message to all the Autobots among the stars at the end of the first film. So that Sideswipe, Arcee, Jolt & Twins were the first wave, and the Wreckers, Que and Dino were the second.
erm pardon me, but I only know Brains... who's Dino and Que? I watched the movie but god knows they pace it fast at times you can't get whose who unless you see it again ( not gonna happen unless it's DVD release:p)
Dino (aka Mirage) = Red sports car who looked cool but that's about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by liegeprime
Que (aka Wheeljack) = Blue robot who gave humans weapons (Sam's glove that let him fight Starscream) and was executed as a prisoner during the Chicago battle.
Dino was the red car and Que was the other one with hair like Brains who gave the weapons to the humans. (Sorry, I didn't refresh the page and realise that Paulbot had already answered this.)Quote:
Originally Posted by liegeprime
Ooooh So that's who's who. Thanks!
could someone please tell me in the scene where we see the autobots return from the dead, there feels like a section of film was chopped out as it suddenly changes to epps passing sam a gun and saying something. It just seemed like Mr Bay chopped some film which made a few scenes feel uneven, particularly this one. Anything different in the comic adaptations? I know the uneven scenes have been discussed previously but this one stood out to me every time ive seen the film.
I seem to recall seeing a helicopter that looked like Skyhammer in the NEST base.Quote:
Originally Posted by griffin
I had a closer look at the NEST base that Sentinel was gunning down on Saturday, didn't appear to have Skyhammer. They had Hueys and Incinerators but no Skyhammer-like helicopter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ode to a Grasshopper